FidelioJet
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23 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:
Even if becton is diagnosed with a sprain of some ligament that typically takes a month to heal, why would the jets believe that timetable anyway?
I'm pretty sure he's done for the season.
I imagine he'll have a shot again next year - but will come in as a back-up.
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5 minutes ago, GangGreened said:
The staff doesn’t seem to want to move Fant to RT and he apparently prefers to play LT
Well, Fant was good at LT last year - but he's played RT and Brown was a pro-bowl LT last year.
They move Fant to RT, who will be fine there - and allow Brown to play the position he has for the past 14 years.
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3 minutes ago, Skeptable said:
This is step 1 ... now either Max Mitchell steps up or they trade for a real RT.
Yes, this is step 1 as it locks in a 2021 pro-bowl LT. You can move Fant back to RT...
and now we need to make a trade for a NFL caliber swing T/back up.
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4 minutes ago, freestater said:
I'm always right, buddy. Just takes the deluded longer to see it. By no means did I want to be right on this, but that doesn’t make me desire to run around with wishful thinking guiding my logic. I begged and pleaded for the Jets to not enter thus season relying on a guy who has proven unreliable. At such an important position, with the progress of our young signal-caller in the balance, to cling to the idea that right tackle was all set because we have Big Ticket over there was ludicrous. All evidence pointed to it. Some just didn't want to admit it. Unfortunately it seems our GM was among them.
Blaming the GM before you see what the roster looks like to start the season is flawed logic.
While I agree, I had little faith Becton would play this year (I hoped he would) I'm not going to judge JD until I see what he does now.
You really don't know if he has trades in place for this contingent (which is certainly possible) and he's about to sign a 2021 pro-bowl LT to the roster.
Let's see what he does before we judge him.
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Jsut another camp body. We're still getting two tackles.
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4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:interwsting look back into his routine at Louisville. They amount of maintenance that was going to be required for him to make it in the league was never going to be possible. This pick is on Douglas. Too many flags.
I Believe this to be correct.
It's kinda why I'm not really upset right now because it just didn't come as a surprise to me.
It's not on the coaches, not even on Becton. His body was just not designed to hold up in the NFL.
At least we know now it's time to move on. JD made a mistake here - fact is JD's first year wasn't good, but he's been MUCH smarter since. I have faith he'll work this out.
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12 minutes ago, slats said:
They haven’t signed him yet, and he’s another LT. That would be a better solution if I thought either he or Fant would be good on the right side, but I don’t. I’ll leave the panicking to others, but JD does need to make a move or two here.
You know who out there and still only 30 years old? Brandon Shell. I’d at least take a look at him.Surely I agree. And I'm making an assumption for sure - that JD will, in fact, sign Brown (who by the way is still 36 until Aug. 30th and went to the Pro-Bowl last year.) Will be a quality player for the Jets this year.
When JD signs him he will also need to trade for another starting caliber T.
Based on the facts - I have a pretty high level of confidence he'll figure this out. - I'm not panicking.
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You guys trying to blame the coaching staff are being ridiculous.
This is not on Saleh - Becton was just never going to hold up. His body isn't made for the beating a full NFL career will require.
JD should have never drafted him. But it's fine, we can move on from this and we can pay a bit of a premium Brown and make a trade for another T with players and picks.
There's talent available and we'll be fine. I trust in Joe. Since that first draft and off-season he's been MUCH better.
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Duane Brown is far better than most of you are giving him credit for - he's a more than capable T.
The OL will be fine.
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Counting on him this year was always a mistake. Guys that take 9 months on a 6 week injury shouldn't be counted on.
Sure we could have hoped - would have been great, but it was, IMO, always a long shot to him to play this season.
Jets will be fine with Brown, but have to go get him.
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3 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:
In a perfect world this would be a depth signing but can't be worse than Edoga/McDermott.
Yeah, this is probably just a camp body. he likely won't make the team, but still kinda funny timing.
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problem solved.
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4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:
Thats malpractice they even kept him in there. They should’ve pulled him as soon as they saw him limping around like that
Not really sure that's the case - This was going to happen eventually anyway. His knee isn't ready. Looks like he'll be fine from what happened today n- but they just need to sit him for a while longer. He's just not ready.
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1 minute ago, More Cowbell said:
If this team stays mostly healthy I believe they'll be competing for a playoff spot in Dec.
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5 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:
You might not believe me given how vocal I've been about not liking Zach for so long, but I assure you that nothing would make me happier as a Jets fan.
I believe you - I'm sure you would like him to succeed, but what success means will change in order to maintain a dislike (I'm not saying you're that person - but it does happen)
Now we know what you would consider a successful year - I think it's a reasonable expectation.
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12 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said:
It’s not about hating Becton he is the most unreliable player on the team at one of the most important positions. He is a walking train wreck. Nothing but a huge distraction and detriment to the O-line.
This is right. Maybe he can settle in and eventually get that knee fixed and get into proper shape necessary to maintain a 17 game schedule. But for now the Jets need to move on - I'm not even suggesting cutting the kid - keep him here - keep working with him -
But as you stated, right now he's just not reliable at a position where reliability is far too important. That OL working in unison in this offense is vital.
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6 minutes ago, Lith said:Zach is starting to stack quality practices.
Hopefully this just means the team is coming together. Getting timing down, more comfortable with the offense and each other. Hope it continues.
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Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:
Looks like we potentially have our first SOJ moment of the season. Cool!
Just not sure if it's that - as, IMO, this was inevitable. So not so much bad luck or SOJsy but rather it is who he is right now.
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I mean this with all sincerity. This might actually be a good thing.
No way that knee was holding up through an NFL season - This should force JD's hand to sign Brown (or trade for a T that is capable of completing a season)
If Becton is healthy this year - use him as a swing tackle - limit his reps - have him in on short yardage situations.
Let him strengthen that knee and maybe he'll be ready to move into a starting role for the playoffs...
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Duane Brown's asking price just went up!
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2 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:
I would jump the moon for him to be a top 5 QB, but realistically I'd be ecstatic with even just top half QB. I want the fundamental errors gone this season. That means no dirting swings and screens, no silly sacks, no self-inflicted INTs. If a good read and good throw is batted in the air and INT'd, or the defense just straight up fools him into an INT - that's acceptable. However, if he throws any more INTs like he did in the scrimmage where it's clearly bracket coverage from the snap and the LB is draped over the WR through the entire route, I'm going to lose my ******* mind.
In Lafleur's scheme with JD's personnel, I'm not expecting Zach to carry the load. It's built to be run-heavy. It'll be mostly short passes with a few shots sprinkled throughout each game. This offense organically generates low-impact QB play - meaning lower TDs but also lower INTs. So at the end of this year, I'm not expecting 30 TDs, but I am definitely expecting single digit INTs, 63%+ comp, and lots of YACs generated by quick decisions and good ball placement.
I think this is fair...
I mean the "No" silly sacks or N0 self inflicted INT's is a bit much but they should be few and far between. Anything like last year should be unacceptable. I think the comp % is a bit hight too - but should surely be over 60%
But that aside - I will hold you to this
If ZW looks like you're suggesting I would expect you to be positive about him.
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10 minutes ago, Supersonic said:
I was only commenting on a few plays. We all see things differently. You shouldn't judge based solely on your own perception. Nobody's perfect.
I'm judging on the actual video evidence of the scrimmage video. It's not a perception. It's there. You can see his head move, you can see it turn back to a WR...
Like I've said, there's plenty to dislike about Zach, plenty of places he still needs to grow, he's made plenty of mistakes and will continue to do so..
But he's not staring down receivers - it's there in the video. That's all I was saying in that post.
The INT was bad, he missed an open WR in the flat that was really bad otherwise he was pretty good. he did nothing special but he was solid.
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Because the Jets needed a lot of other things too.
There's nothing in the rule book that says you need your Tackles to be first round picks. Duane Brown will be fine and give the Jets plenty of time to figure out what to do next year.