jamesr

Not defending Bowles overly much, but I think he gets overly criticised here. Before the draft last year he had a lot of enthusiasm for Deshaun Watson, what he could do for an offense etc. He's not oblivious to the offensive side of the ball as is often portrayed. Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

Wow ... 2 votes for Nelson? The troll is strong with this one.

I guess Hankins is not on the radar anymore, based on the above.

When I read about this guy on NFL.com I thought he'd be a decent pick for us ... could allow us to move on from Carpenter? Tony Adams, OG, N.C. State: Adams can run outside and inside zone plays in his sleep thanks to his efficient movements, plus body control and consistent footwork. He was a tennis player as a youth, which is one of the reasons for his impressive feet, and his father was a wrestling coach, which plays into his understanding of leverage. Adams is undersized, which will hurt his draft slotting, but he's a good football player with consistent tape and should become a NFL starter He could turn out to be a Day 3 steal.

Blame Russia.

Hmmm ... trade up for a QB in Round 1, draft a RB in Round 3. Why does that sound familiar??

There was one article about how Bates / Mayfield would be the ideal combo for us ... prior to reading that I'd been less enamoured with Mayfield, but the article made me feel a lot better about it if we do land him. As far as QB goes I'm pretty much treating Bowles as an irrelevance; it'll be Bates that will make the difference in developing our guy.

I've tried not to rule out any of the four ... I want to support whoever we draft, rather than waiting for him to fall on his face. I'm sure whoever we draft will have an immediate hater group who'll harp on about his weaknesses and post every time the guy they wanted does anything good.

What's your cat's view on BPA vs. draft for need?

Exactly - next year's 1 alone would barely get you into the very end of Round 1, to get 5th pick overall would be at least a 1st round in 18 AND 19 combined, and likely more on top.

If I Google search "pig ripe slaughter" ... first result is a 2013 post on JetNation, and the comment below the title is : Trouble is we have been saying this since Mo Lewis took out Bledsoe.

You traded pick 65 twice.

Didn't the Jets trade of Abraham to Atlanta involve Denver too? Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

Funny how Bowles & Rogers get ripped for not making use of the talent they have, but at the same time we slate the players for being nothing more than mediocre to start with ... Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

When it comes to a QB heavy draft the chart usually goes out the window. Whatever the charts say the Giants pick is worth, treat that as being the cost in this year's draft, THEN add next year's first (IMHO). Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk