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  1. 2 hours ago, bitonti said:

    I can live with all that but it makes Zach sound more like Trent dilfer than Aaron Rodgers 

    Is he a game manager or a franchise qb? They did not need to spend 2 overall the highest pick since Keyshawn on a manager 

    I was thinking more along the lines of Garropolo (or maybe Tannehill?) rather than Dilfer. But not as a ceiling, more of a step up the ladder in Year 2.

    Rodgers / Mahomes would be fab, but I'm trying to keep my expectations reasonable. ;-)  

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  2. Of the "also ran" teams I'd say that we're more likely to surprise some teams next year than say Chicago, Houston or Detroit. So I get the basic premise of us potentially being "that team". But a Cincinnati like turnaround is probably stretching the realms of credibility. If we ended up 8-9 or 9-8 that would be quite a significant step forward in itself.

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  3. 1 hour ago, bitonti said:

    You just put up numbers that prove on average, the entire league is rushing less than 10 years ago 

    I'm too lazy to dig out ppg numbers but all the rule changes since Rex Era has been to favor the passing game and points being scored quickly, hopefully in sportscenter highlights 

    Yes There is a Jalen hurts / Lamar Jackson rpo model that some teams subscribe to but those teams aren't winning hardware either. And Zach isn't Lamar Jackson 

    I agree The Jets should maybe run more than they did last year but teams can't ground and pound their way to victory anymore. It really has to be Zach that does it 

    And JD knows this. The selection of sauce at 4 tells us everything we need to know about the importance of passing in 2022.

    I don't think people honestly expect a true "ground and pound" approach from the 2022 Jets ... more of a "run first" mentality, yes - but not a team that runs it for 3 / 4 / 5 yards and a cloud of dust every time and only throws out of necessity. 

    What we won't be is a team that has Zach throwing 35 - 40 times every week and looking for him to air it out all over the field. He'll be expected to make a difference, but also to make use of the players around him and not try to do it all himself.

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  4. 13 hours ago, LockeJET said:

    In my opinion there’s zero pressure on this team to win this coming season. As long as they are a competitive team, the win loss record is not gonna matter this year for the most part. Play competitive football and hope that Wilson takes the next step up. What can you really expect with all these new pieces. 

    Let's just show the world we're not a bunch of horses' asses! :D  

  5. Patsies are usually not at their best until after the first 6 weeks or so ... how many years have we seen them look vulnerable early then turn it around mid season and go on a late run that has them in the mix, or the playoffs?

    If this is the game then bring it on. Let's see what this Mac Jones kid has. Show him the 2022 Jets are much more dangerous than the 2021 Jets.

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  6. 5 hours ago, bitonti said:

    The entire afc is a beast. The jets are going to face Russell Wilson in Denver and depending on the schedule and suspensions, Deshaun Watson in Cleveland. 

    The fans have had this sugar high cycle every offseason. We end up miserable. Can't we, just once, not go insane with these predictions? 

    I know we can't. It's tradition. But it feels like self destructive behavior. 

    It's only going to make you miserable if you choose to buy into it personally. What the overall fan base / this board feels and what you feel individually do not need to match up.

    I usually take the approach of not getting too high with the highs, nor too low with the lows. I feel that works out. Especially in the regular season where every win is a proclamation of Superbowls aplenty and franchise QBs, and the next loss has the fan base dusting off the pitchforks to storm Jets HQ. "On to Cincinnati" or something like that. ;-) 

    This forum will be super high for several months. Zach will "look great" in camp, Becton will be "beasting", that UDFA you never heard of will be the steal of all steals ... Just take it all with a pinch of salt (and a couple of cold beers). 

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  7. 22 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

    Great points. Although I’m a little concerned about JFM moving inside.   I read an article where they discussed this and if I recall correctly, he had a great pass rush win rate from the inside but his run defense numbers suffered because he’s a little undersized for a DT. 

    I can see him potentially playing end on early downs and switching inside on obvious passing downs. he's definitely far more of a pass rush threat at DT than a run stopper.

    General rotation and depth should help too. Saleh doesn't want his DL guys playing a large amount of snaps.

  8. What exactly does that mean though? 
    A couple of years ago, in a "strong QB class", only Josh Allen and Lamar have turned out (so far) to be great.  Rosen was an epic bust.  Darnold and Baker are still trying to become something.  (I still have hope for Sam but we'll see).
    In 2004, Eli Manning, Big Ben and Phillip Rivers were great. 
    1983 was known is known as the greatest QB class.  Elway, Kelly, and Marino were great.  O'Brien and Eason were pretty good for a while but not real franchise-changers.
    So if history is any guide, there are probably only going to be 2-3 great QBs at most.  Unless we're drafting top 2-3, or can trade up to those spots, what are we going to be left with?  There are teams out there like the Eagles (and maybe 1-2 other teams) that have a ton of draft picks that they can trade up with.  Basically you have to either be bad at the right time (like the Colts with Peyton and Luck) or have the ability to trade up.
    Barring something very surprising happening (e.g. a ton of injuries), I don't think the Jets will be picking top 3 next year (probably not even top 10).   If we need a QB next year, the likelihood is we're going to have to have a lot of things break our way (e.g. have the equivalent of a Lamar fall to us like he did to the Ravens).
    Bear in mind where Allen and Jackson were picked ... they were not the highest draft picks yet they've worked out best.

    Our we do find ourselves needing a QB next year we should at least have a far stronger surrounding cast and a more established system to bring them into. And if there are at least 2-3 bona fide talents there will still be other guys with more questions that are available later. Like Allen, Jackson etc. Maybe even like Mahomes and Watson who don't go so high due to perceived issues or limitations.

    Hopefully all of this is academic anyway and all the QBs mean that talent at other positions is available to us further down the draft.

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  9. 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

    Yeah, I’m gonna pass on that this year. Take a little break and get ready for the season. No pre season either, last year showed me it’s all nonsense. Gonna wait for the regular season. 

    I sometimes wish I could detach like that ... I do go through phases of being a reader rather than a poster so as not to get dragged into silly circular arguments, but still need my fix of news & updates from the excellent camp reports that get posted here. :-) 

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  10. 3 hours ago, The Crusher said:

    That’s true Big Kev, yet hate to say it but it does feel little  different this time. Once training camp starts   I’m taking a hiatus and you guys will have to tell me when it’s safe to come back. Training camp tore out my soul last year! 

    Z Wilson's first incompletion / INT ... G Wilson's first drop ... someone catching a ball against Sauce ... the overreactions will be glorious! 🙄

    Oh, and anytime Becton rests for 5 minutes or sits out a drill.

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  11. I'm hoping that next year is when we start to look at FA to plug those one or two last gaps, and the draft is about restocking with talent rather than filling specific holes.

    It's taken a lot to get to the point of feeling we have a good foundation in place. Last thing we need is for their to already be cracks in that foundation.

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