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  1. 1 minute ago, Hal N of Provo said:

    If they can’t resign Moses they need a 3rd OT I’d think.  

    But do you spend the #4 pick on a backup? If they don't fill the RG spot in FA you could play the rookie there for a year, but if you do sign someone then the draft pick is not going to impact the starting 11.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

    What do you suggest the Jets do with all the cap money?

    We don't have the home grown talent to pay big money....Top FA's don't want to come here..

    So what do you do?

    You roll the dice on the best you can get - 

    Hopefully we'll have our draft picks to pay going forward and FA will be a smaller part of this team going forward.

    JD seemed to be to sign more "hold the fort" FAs or depth guys until he drafts his own guys to replace them. None of the guys so far have been so big name / big ticket that they would be playing whatever happened.

    Macc on the other hand looked to FA to bring in sure fire starters and paid them the big money. Trumaine, Bell, CJ Mosley and the likes. Let's face it, Mosley is on the team next year whether he is good enough to be or not, because of his contract. 

    The current approach may make the rebuild take longer, but it doesn't lock us into underperforming vets. Our cap room last year was actually not that high, due to getting all the dead money off the books. It'll be interesting to see if the approach differs this year, but I'm not expecting JD to spend spend spend.


  3. 9 minutes ago, rangerous said:

    the big issue is not having an intact oline for just about the whole season.  moses was a good signing.  feeney too because both of these guys filled roles when the starter went down or got moved.  coleman?  he had some good runs and was better than ty johnson.  jarrod davis was a waste. he just didn't show much and seemed to shy away from plays.  cole went through the motions.  corey davis started out strong but seemed to lose interest as the season faded away.  the rest of the guys were mainly jags.  the thing is all teams have players like these otherwise they couldn't pay the big money players.  and these guys look much better on an established team with a good oline and qb.  sometimes people think too much of placeholders.

    I wonder how much Davis' core muscle injury affected his play in the weeks prior to him going on IR. I'm guessing he was trying to play through it but it was affecting his play. Hoping he can offer more in 2022 once it is healed up.

  4. 8 hours ago, slimjasi said:

    This article is very interesting. 

    In the regular season the team winning the coin toss won 86 out of 163 games. (10 were tied). That's about 53%. Almost literally a coin flip.

    In the post season the team winning the coin toss won 10 out of 11 games. That's about 91%. Seven of those ten were walk off TDs on the opening drive (63%).

    I wonder why there's such a disparity? Playing to not lose in regular season could come into it a little bit, but I'd be surprised if it was that significant. 

  5. I found this article that acts as a counterpoint to the OP. It looks at all the successes that the FAs we got rid of had this past year.


    In summary of the two articles - got rid of a lot of trash, ended up getting some back in return. I think that sums up FA in general. Maybe a couple of areas that got a bit better, but not night and day.

    And people still want us to "spend big" in FA this year?


  6. 7 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

    “We see something the rest of the league doesn’t, which is why we pay big money to cast-offs from bad teams.”


    Big money??

    That list contains illustrious high priced stars like Dan Feeney, Justin Hardee and Tyler Kroft,

    Other than Davis and Lawson I wouldn't consider any of them "big money". We spent lots based on quantity, not quality.

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  7. I tend to look at teams in terms of how they are positioned for the future.

    KC are rolling along pretty nicely - their franchise QB is signed long term, is young, and they've got lots of talent around. Need to improve on D, but that is manageable. Probably should be favorites to win it, but also highly likely to be in the mix next year too.

    Cincy are a team on the rise - probably don't have all the pieces / experience to go all the way this year but should be able to come right back next year and try again.

    Rams are in win-now mode - lots of FA signings and trades at the expense of draft capital. Should be NFC favorites (plus home field) but you have to think that they could fall off quite quickly if they don't win. Playing in the NFC West doesn't help either.

    SF are a curious case ... a team one win away from the SB that don't even know who their QB will be next year. Got to imagine the offseason discussions will be interesting there, to say the least. If they move on to Lance it'll probably be some time before they're back in the playoffs - can they afford to take that step? And if they fall short with Jimmy G, can they afford not to?

    My vote goes to LA without a doubt. The most "win now" team with the biggest expectations on them. 

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  8. 7 hours ago, AFJF said:

    Jets need defense early because I'm sure none of the teams playing this weekend gave up 500 points this season, though I admittedly didn't look it up.


    Of all the playoff teams only LV Raiders gave up more than 400 points (439). Next worst was the Steelers at 398. 

    Of the weekend teams, Cincy gave up the most at 376 and outside of Buffalo, TB were the lowest at 353. So all tightly grouped. Bills were the real outlier at 289.

    376 is just over 22 points per game. 353 is over 20. Jets were over 29 ppg. We'd need to give up one less touchdown every game to get within range of the playoff field from this past weekend. 

    Doing the same on offense ... of the weekend team the lowest scorers in the regular season were Tennessee (419) and SF (427). That's around 24 / 25 ppg. Jets were 310 - just over 18 ppg. So we'd need to score one more touchdown every game to get within range of the playoff field from this past weekend.

    Not surprisingly we need both offense AND defense. ;-) 

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  9. 1 hour ago, shawn306 said:

    The packers had 58 yards total in the second half. Not exactly high octane

    GB had a potent offense all season (Top 10 in points, 13 wins etc). The loss at the weekend is being put down to bad special teams play. But what was their offense and MVP QB doing up to that point? They seem to escape judgement for some reason, which was largely my point - we judge the plays that end the game but not the plays that made those "make or break" moments.

  10. 13 hours ago, johnnysd said:

    If this weekend showed anything it is that winning is all about surrounding your QB with the most talent possible. It is obvious. Even the #1 defense in the league cannot match up with elite playmakers.

    Not saying you should ignore defense, but with our robust lineup of Corey Davis, Elijah Moore and possibly Berrios and nothing at TE we should go into this offseason planning on getting at least 2 high level WR and TEs and more OL.

    Our first 4 picks should be on offense at least.

    And before you all cry "but but EDGE!!!" 9 sacks was not enough to win in the Cincy game.

    It is ALL about playmakers. As Saleh said "we will lift you (Zach) up not the other way around" Well go fooking do it.

    Cincy game was quite the exception IMHO ... that amount of beating up the opposing QB will get you the win more often than not. Tanny shat the bed, and Burrow played phenomenally - you can do that once in a head to head situation but not week in week out.

    Let's not forget that Buffalo held KC on quite a lot of drives (2 punts, 4 FG attempts). That still requires defense. I can't see our Jets stopping Mahomes from scoring a TD 6 times in a game.

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  11. 14 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

    The Packers scored 10 points.

    I think the "special teams lost them the game" narrative is silly. Rodgers came up small and his offense didn't score points. 3 points on nine drives after the opening TD. The game never should have been in position for a blocked punt to decide it.

    Similar to the Cowboys game ... so much focus on the last drive, where was the high octane offense for the other 58 minutes?

    SF are showing that you can still win with defense and ST, but I think their luck will run out this weekend.

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  12. 29 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    Offense > Defense, and there is no universe where "Zach didn't have weapons or time to throw" should be true in 2022.

    If it is true, JD should be fired, flat out.  


    The weaponz better be vastly improved next year. I doubt they'll be on a par with the best teams by that point, but if they have the pieces to develop it'll be a massive step forward. Right now we don't even have question marks at most positions ... we have nothing.

    If we see Moore and Carter progressing and bring in similar promising picks at WR and TE we'll be on the right path. 

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  13. 40 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

    You see his throws for TDs at the end?  Absolute lasers.  I think he even has a better gun than Elway.

    But what really stood out is the way Josh Allen is now seeing the field.  Plus, how is a guy with that size so nimble on scrambles?  Gotta be like trying to tackle a moose.

    Is that easier or harder than tackling a cow on roller-skates? Asking for an ex-Jet QB ...


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  14. 12 minutes ago, Bugg said:

    Sure KC would’ve told their players to fall on it but chance instinct kicks in and some special teamer sees an opening and tries to make something happen.

    Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

    I think GB had something similar happen a few years back - returner was told to take a knee but ran it back and fumbled, something like that?

  15. 3 minutes ago, Cyberjet said:

    Agree. Was that game an anomaly? - maybe, but it’s definitely a trend that has been creeping into the NFL for sometime and it’s what the NFL wants. They won’t fix games but the NFL  will increase the likelihood that offense will succeed - they will stack the deck.

    I agree with you - you don’t change your philosophy. If you try to copy them you are doomed. You protect your QB, maximize the depth and talent on the defensive line and you go man to man on wide receivers. San Francisco 49ers  are the antidote - it’s just a matter whether the NFL will let them succeed. 

    I think SF's time is up next weekend ... they've done well to get this far, but winning on the Dak non-spike and a blocked punt TD return will only get you so far. They just don't seem to have that ability to kill other teams off - they have to rely on the other team to implode.

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  16. 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

    I mean they leave the game knowing their QB is able to go toe to toe with the best so even in a loss you'd feel pretty good about the future. 

    I'm sure they're devastated though. Knock of KC and they're likely the favourites to win it all. 

    Agreed - I'd much rather lose like that than get torn apart 38-10 and not look like I even belonged there.

    Bills are so close. Guys will likely stay with the team to get another crack rather than sign elsewhere and probably never sniff another game like that. It can motivate players to put in that little bit extra in the offseason to come back and give it another go. Good coaches will use this as a positive for next year, a way to focus the team on getting back to that spot (or better yet, make it a home game next time).


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  17. This might seem an odd thing to say but ... does it really change anything?

    You build the team the way you believe in, to be the best that it can be. Then you take on the opponents that are on your schedule. You don't draft / develop to counter what other teams are doing or you end up chasing your tail. We play 17 games a year - you have to build a team to play well in all of them, not just focus on the top teams and the players they have now. If you do that, but the time you're ready to compete they could have moved team, got injured, regressed, retired ... who knows.


  18. 13 minutes ago, oatmeal said:


    i personally believe this is the regime that  will  finally turn around the Jets. One thing about football you can never get too caught up with who’s on top at any given moment because players will get hurt, key players get disgruntled, etc. 

    We see it every year

    I really personally love what the future holds for the NYJ 

    You can't control what other teams do, nor can you let it affect how you build / prepare your own team.

    Stick to the plan, put the best team on the field that you can, with the best coaches you can get, and take it from there.

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