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Jets - 29 wins by the teams we've yet to play. 3 AFC East games (one each) with the Phins and Bills being key to playoff hopes. Giants, Cowboys and Titans round out the rest, with Giants being an "away" game. If you assume we lose to NE, we need to win 4 out of the other 5 to have a chance; all 5 would pretty much see us in at 10-6, but I think that's out of our reach right now. Have to win at least one of Cowboys and Giants games, and not lose any of the AFC games (other than NE).
Thought I'd revisit this based on Romo's injury ... suddenly the Dallas game takes on a different aspect, much more winnable with Cassel under center, and it's also more likely that Dallas will be playing out the string rather than in the thick of the divisional battle. (Though it would be most helpful if Cassell could knock off the Bills the week after they lose to us
).Certainly makes the remaining run that little bit less difficult. Poor old Miami just had the unlucky timing of catching the Boys when Romo was healthy.
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Here's what I still don't get - I read here that Brees is still great, a top QB, and if you have on of those you can always compete, while he helps groom your QB of the future.
If that's so ... why would New Orleans consider getting rid of him? Who's going to groom their QB of the future? Why are they not competitive with him on their team?
If he'd be so great for us, surely he should be equally great for his current team?
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It's often written on here that we don't beat anyone good, can't beat teams with winning records. I know quite a bit has changed since we played a lot of teams, but at present only ONE team that we've played - out of TEN - has a winning record. No prize for guessing who.
And of the remaining SIX teams on our schedule - ONE currently has a winning record. No prize for guessing who.
In fact, in a league of 32 teams, only NINE currently have winning records.
Is this parity ... or widespread mediocrity?
EDIT - looking back, we didn't actually play anyone who had a winning record at the time, other than ... no prize for guessing who.
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giving up on coples mid-season for a special teams linebacker looks a lot worse to me after a few days. sure coples was a big disappointment, they probably shopped him before the deadline, but based on the fact 2 teams wanted him, with his current contract, tells me macc could have traded him in the off season
probably not for much, but now a division rival that saw its best pass rusher go down has a healthy body for the stretch run
pretty dumb move by the jets
Coples contract next year would have made teams steer clear of trading for him, just wait till we cut him.
He would count something like $7.5m next year if he got hurt too, and no, you don't need to be on the field to get injured ...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000588569/article/redskins-chris-culliver-tears-acl-mcl
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I noticed that too. Ivory isn't fast enough to be effective in space running out of shotgun.
We really have way below average talent at RB. Ridley is a dumpster fire and Powell and Stacy are JAGs.
There has got to be some arena leaguer or guy in Canada better than what we have besides Ivory.
I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a RB in the early rounds to replace Ivory. Keep Powell as a backup, dump Stacy & Ridley, and find a late rounder ST type player who can be your 3rd option at the position.
Don't get me wrong, I think Ivory is a good player, and I love his style, but it's not versatile enough for a #1 back, more of a complementary back - the sort of guy you bring in to close out games when the D is gassed, that sort of thing. I just see him wanting decent starter money in what will likely be his last contract; we may need to go down the "year too early" route and let him go at the end of the year.
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Revenge game?
The beatdown we gave them in London got rid of their crappy coaching staff, the players should be thanking us for it!
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Something in my gut tells me that the Steelers and the Colts are going to walk away with the wildcard spots this year.
I'm thinking Steelers and Chiefs for the wild cards, with Jets and Bills trying to keep pace.
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One thing about Ivory that was mentioned on Sunday - he does his best running out of the I formation, and with Fitzy's hand banged up they are running much more shotgun, which doesn't work well together. So could be more than just lingering injuries at play there.
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Could be looking to jettison Ridley?
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From #5 seed downwards, as things stand ...
Pitt - 1 game up on Jets, tough schedule left with 31 wins by the teams they've yet to play. @ Hawks, @ Bengals, vs Broncos are all games we should root for them to lose, which would make them at best 9-7. Outside of that they have the Colts, Ravens and Browns, don't see them losing any of those.
KC - same record as Jets, weak schedule remaining with 20 wins by the teams they've yet to play. Double header to come vs. Raiders, that'll be key, plus a game vs. Bills this week. Outside of that they have Ravens, Chargers, Browns. If they sweep Oakland I reckon they'll be in the playoffs; split and they've still got a good chance, esp. if they beat the Bills at home this week
Texans - same record as Jets, hold the tie-breaker so we need to finish ahead on record. Upcoming schedule is very similar to the Jets, with games vs. Buffalo, Patsies and Titans, and a few middling teams (Saints, Colts, Jags). Total of 30 wins by the teams they've yet to play (10 of those by one team, all others at 0.500 or worse). Given the tie breaker we should probably root for them to win the division (as we own the tie breaker vs. the Colts). And if they can knock off the Bills en route, that would help us out
Bills - 26 wins by the teams they've yet to play. No "gimmes" though - Chiefs, Texans and Jets all 5-5, and a three game stretch vs. NFC East teams who will all be battling hard for their division. Could still come down to that Week 17 matchup
Jets - 29 wins by the teams we've yet to play. 3 AFC East games (one each) with the Phins and Bills being key to playoff hopes. Giants, Cowboys and Titans round out the rest, with Giants being an "away" game. If you assume we lose to NE, we need to win 4 out of the other 5 to have a chance; all 5 would pretty much see us in at 10-6, but I think that's out of our reach right now. Have to win at least one of Cowboys and Giants games, and not lose any of the AFC games (other than NE).
Oakland / Jax / Phins - all at 4-6, and we currently have the tie-break over Jax and Phins. Beat Phins on Sunday should finish their playoff hopes (and a loss would likely finish ours), and I don't see Jax finishing on a better record than us. Oakland can only afford one more loss, and have 2 games vs. KC, plus @ Denver, vs. Green Bay. I think they've had it, to be honest, but could play spoiler for us against KC.
So ... if we mostly take care of business and get to 9-7 (beating both Miami and Buffalo on the way), we need Texans to take the AFC South and either KC to slip up (Oakland can help) or Pitt to struggle with their stretch run. I see Pitt ending 9-7 at worst, could easily be 10-6, looking most like a lock at present.
But at the end of the day, we need to take care of our own games or we'll be looking towards the draft in the next week or so. Again.
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The problem really isn't so much the secondary as it is our LB's who are dreadfully slow and can't cover anyone. The safeties are too busy pinching in for short passes and/or run stoppage and covering for the LB's shortcomings and are being asked to blitz too. When we get torched deep it tends to be a one on one matchup or safety help that is suspiciously late to the party.
This happens to rebuilding teams. We're trying to patch holes with some creative schemes. Rome wasn't built in a day. NFL teams rarely go from 4-12 to 11-5 overnight.
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Our LB's are built to stop the run, in a league where the pass has become more and more prevalent. We certainly need a serious retool at LB in the coming years.
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All of them, I think.
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This isn't a meltdown. This is an 8-8 team in the process of going 8-8.
What's got some all in a tizz is the sequencing. Back in the Summer, most predicted we'd come out of the gate 2-3 as the Colts, Eagles, and Dolphins were all thought to be elite teams in 2015. So when we came out at 4-1 and took the Patriots to the 2-minute warning it looked like this team could be something special, thoughts of Vinny Testaverde 2.0 dancing in our heads.
If you sit back now and look to September objectively you see that we had a cupcake schedule, and if you layer into that the injuries to our razor-thin roster it makes complete sense why we are where we are. It's not like we have Brett Favre in the house laying 60 on the Cardinals. It's not like we have a defense and running game coming off of back-to-back AFC Championships. This is a rebuilding team with a rookie head coach that did it's job early but couldn't withstand offensive injuries to this extent mixed with a Rex Ryan defense still programmed for laziness and complacency.
It's Year 1 of a Maccagnan rebuild. We'll take 8-8 after 4-12 last year. That's a great season no matter the sequencing that to some make this look like a collapse.
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Agree 100% with the above. Everyone was labelling the Texans a scrub team, mostly based on their 1-4 start, now after going 4-1 in their last 5, they have the same record as us. Yet they feel a lot better and look a lot better because they have upwards momentum, whereas we seem to be spiralling downwards.
Let's see where we are after the last 6 games before judging this a "collapse".
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The funny thing, or not funny is that after each draft I think to myself 'We have plugged holes A, B and C and next year we can plug other holes'. What really happens is that 3 or 4 more holes appear along the way. This team better try and make trades for more picks because we need and influx of talent in:
Oline
QB
RB
TE
ILB
OLB
Special teams
RB wouldn't surprise me ... for all i like Ivory, he's not an all round back and his injury issues do concern me. I wouldn't be overly surprised if we went RB round 1, to be honest.
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We started 4-1, and have gone 1-4 since.
Houston started 1-4, and have gone 4-1 since.
And they're the "scrubs"???
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We really need an influx of LB talent next year.
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Offense looks bad when mangold is out. Happened in oakland, happened yesterday - Nick out, 3 and outs all over the place. Maybe its a coincidence maybe not. I feel like the offence can be average or just good enough, but without mangold it looks more like the offence from the past couple years.
If that is indeed true, then the other 10 starters should hang their heads that it all goes to sh!t when one player goes out.
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And to top it off, he'll go to New England, be a 4-3 DE and be perfectly solid.
He'd have to go unclaimed by every other team before NE could claim him ... in that case NE might as well wait and sign him as a FA, meaning they can get him on better terms.
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Bengals are going to the playoffs for their 5th straight year.
They should get a banner to hang in their stadium.
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How many of the players mentioned would have turned out as good if we picked them?
You don't simply draft a player, put him on the field and that's it ... player development is key, and it's something we do pretty badly at, on a consistent basis.
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Fitz is the best we have on the Roster. we were missing our top 3 players for the majority or all of the game. we don't need multiple fire fitz threads every single week.
All teams have to deal with injuries ... it's part of the game, not an excuse.
If we can't play on offense because Mangold is out, then we really have a problem.
D Line had Williams, Wilkerson and Harrison, even without Richardson.
Revis wasn't exactly playing his best before he left either.
Injuries are not the reason we lose, we lose because we're still lacking talent in too many places.
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OUCH!!!!!!!! Sheldon Richardson
OUCH!!!!!!!! Oday Aboushi
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Jets 20 - 9 Texans
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In an odd way, a Buffalo win this week might be better for us than a KC win. Other than Buffalo, the only other real threat to KC is Oakland.