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  1. 12 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said:

    Just letting you know they did not because Rooney Rule indicates 1 of the interviews has to be in person which up to the point of Flores’ interview they had not had an in-person minority interview. Graham and Frazier were virtual. 

    So if they held an in-person sham interview with Flores it does not meet rule as process was not a good faith assessment of candidates. 

    Thanks for this. Didn't realize both the previous ones were virtual. Or that Graham was an internal interview so doesn't count either way.

  2. 1 minute ago, bla bla bla said:

    Ah I didn't realize it was 2 external. If that's the case then Flores will have to prove Daboll was hired first, just cause he was their favorite doesn't mean they conspired against Flores. I just think Daboll made the most sense for them given how Allen and Jones play and his relationship to the new GM

    Given that the text from BB was along the lines of "I hear that you're getting the job" ... that could be from anywhere. "Sauces" and all that. Rumour and gossip are not usually looked on favourably in a court.

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  3. 2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

    The thing about this lawsuit in general -- workplace discrimination is really hard to prove. These types of cases usually get settled just so they go away but it's going to be exceedingly difficult for Flores to actually win here.

    Maybe he doesn't expect to win, but feels he can make enough impact by losing that it affects some further change.

    It's certainly got plenty of attention, however it plays out.

  4. 11 minutes ago, heymangold said:

    From what I’ve understood the Rooney rule wasn’t satisfied until they interviewed Flores.  Interviewing Patrick Graham doesn’t count and they only interviewed Frazier.  If the texts from BB are true, they had already offered the job to Daboll before even interviewing Flores.

    listen, I’m not a fan of the Rooney rule. I think every job should be awarded to the best possible candidate.  

    and F the giants.

    Why does Graham not count - is it because he's already part of the organisation?

    Never mind - googled it:


    Here is the current application of the Rooney Rule as of the 2021 season:

    • Teams must interview at least two external ethnic-minority candidates for head coaching positions, with at least one in-person interview.
    • Teams must interview at least two external ethnic-minority candidates for all coordinator positions.
    • Teams must interview at least two external ethnic-minority candidates for GM/football executive roles.
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  5. 5 minutes ago, doitny said:

    why fine them if they're just doing what the Rooney rule is forcing them to do. 

    and this is so stupid with the Giants. they hire their GM from Buffalo. then he wants a OC from Bufalo that not only he knows but turned Josh Allen into a superstar. 

    they only way they can make these interviews seem to not be a sham is force the teams to interview the minority candidates first.


    Even then ... being the first guy interviewed can itself be a disadvantage. 

  6. 54 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

    the Jets are so far ahead of the curve with this

    Not sure what other teams staffing looks like, but this is the Jets coaching staff.


    (As an aside - nice to see that Gregg Knapp is remembered on this page)

    I know not all coaches are at the same level, but this looks like a diverse group - other than the all-male thing ;-) - with a mix of experience, some guys who are ex-players etc.

    Also worth considering that Middleton was the guy who took over when Saleh was out, and he's also leading the National team at the Senior Bowl. Seems to me like they're looking to develop this guy's career as much as possible ... "feeding the pipeline" for future coaches.

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  7. 23 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

    I agree.  Having more WR's might mean we don't have a Jamarr Chase yet in the mix, but could mean we have 3-4 2nd tiered guys who collectively will perform well until we get a true #1.  Same with TE.

    But at some point, we have to first start spending draft capital on the one position that still, and always will, make a difference on the D side of the ball: guys who can get to the QB.  And you keep drafting them.  Have an endless supply so when it comes to a point you can't pay the best one, you have others who can step in.  

    Totally on board with you on this. My ideal Round 1 is Edge and WR. Not sure whether that works if the top 2 Edges are gone at 4, but if we wait till Rd 2 then a lot of the 2nd tier guys could be gone. I don't want us to be in Zuniga / Polite territory again where we're hoping for miracles with a third or fourth round pick.

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  8. 8 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

    I think you are right Sperm.  I look to see the Jets acquire 2-3 big pieces for the offense in F/A, and 'fill in' the rest with the draft.

    I expect a couple of major pieces of draft capital being spent on the opposite side of the ball.

    I'm hoping we sign one / draft one at both WR and TE (especially TE).

    First - we need more than one guy in each position

    Second - it lets your rookies develop at their own pace rather than counting on them to start - and perform well - on day one

    Third - more depth options as and when injuries come up

    Fourth - you're likely not getting a superstar in FA so they'll most likely be shorter term guys (e.g. Corey Davis)

    On defense I expect the same at S, and possibly elsewhere (LB, Edge)

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  9. 3 hours ago, AlexVanDyke said:

    Eh.  3 years is 3 years.  Every case is different and every season has different circumstances.  Record ia record and it’s a false narrative. 

    rmember when Marty schottenheimer hitmlet go despite multiple elite seasons.  Can you imagine if he were black?  Can you imagine if jimmy h were black what the crap that would be saying?  Remember the whole Justin fields narrative ?   It’s unbelievable the lack of any really truth in this argument. 

    Tony Dungy was 54-42 in TB and made the play offs in 4 of his 6 seasons (incl. one NFCCG). He was fired and replaced by Chucky (of all people!) who won the SB with that team the year after.

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  10. 9 hours ago, Sammybighead said:

    Agree with the general sentiment of taking a versatile oline that can play either guard or tackle. What else you gonna take at 4 if you can't find a trade partner? Assuming thibs and hutch are gone, Neal and ekwonu are prime candidates. You can take one of the next pass rushers I guess but I have a feeling one or two decent ones will be there for our second round picks. I think you can get the best oline at 4 and have your choice of wr at 10. This is shaping up to be an offense round 1 fellas!

    One concern I have with going OL at 4 is that you then end up missing out on one of our two main needs - edge and WR - at 10. I know we shouldn't draft specifically for need, but if we miss out on a top edge or WR that was on the board at 10 because of an OL pick at 4, it would bug me immensely.

    My ideal outcome (excluding the trade down option) is edge at 4, WR at 10. Rest can be taken care of in Rd 2 onwards. We can even potentially double dip on one of these if the option arises. 

  11. 1 hour ago, Dunnie said:
    8 hours ago, jmat321 said:
    Guess he got scared away from the Miami job.  Minny is an attractive job when you think about it.  There are some pieces in place.  Detroit and Chicago are a mess, who knows what happens in GB. 

    Dont blame him .. they are about to lose their entire draft.

    This won't get resolved in time for this year's draft IMHO ... which is good as they traded their own pick but have the SF pick at 29.

    My guess is any sanctions will hit them next year - and will be more impactful as a result. ;-) 

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  12. 17 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

    How about every single situation is different in the nfl and it’s almost impossible to compare team to team, and stupid to do so. 

    Agree with this - Burrow is the first QB in history to be picked #1 and make the Superbowl within 2 years. If you treat that as a comparative, where do you stop? The only QB to win 7 Superbowls was a 6th round pick, so let's just pick 6th round QBs till the same happens for us?

    As fans we seem to want to find the elusive "blueprint to success" so we can insist our team should copy it. But the "blueprint" is different every year. Moreover, winning teams don't copy the blueprint - they write their own.

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  13. 14 hours ago, DonCorleone said:

    Last I checked, this is a 53 man roster. A QB being the most important piece but not the only piece. So "Literally" does not work for me". They drafted what thus far has been an excellent QB and they placed him in a position to win. Let's see how well he would do on the Jaguars. Lions, Texans and the Jets. 


    13 hours ago, Bungaman said:

    To your point, Snell41 should ask Dan Marino how well that one man roster stuff worked for him during his career.

    We don't need to go far back for an example, we have right in front of us.

    Matt Stafford in Detroit for 10+ years - nothing more than a few playoff losses

    Matt Stafford in LA for 1 year - Superbowl appearance

    An excellent QB who has finally been placed in a position to win. And we already know how well he would do on the Lions. ;-) 

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  14. 7 hours ago, Origen said:

    And if you go back further you get to, "Who?" picks waaaaay too often.  Honestly for many players the only time you ever heard their name was when the Jets drafted them.

    Good strategy - double dip at positions of draft depth / team need

    Bad strategy - do it with guy like ArDarius Stewart and Chad Hansen


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  15. 13 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

    I don’t know about that. There are some good cb’s to be had in first 2 rounds. I’d think JD would wait until round two if he were to go CB. With a trade back of our 10th pick, we could pick up an extra 2nd. Good options: McDuffie or Gordon would be my targets. The other top cb’s more than likely would be gone in round 1. There are a few who intrigue me round 3-4-5 CB Marcus Jones from Houston and the Alabama cb Davis and The Ducks Wright. 

    I'm just hoping that we don't hit the scenario of drafting a CB at #4 because he was "the best value" or something along those lines. There are barely a handful of CBs taken Top 5 that have ended up being worth it in the last 20 years. (Ramsey, Peterson, Woodson) 

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  16. 4 hours ago, Warfish said:

    Absolutely.  +1

    I don't think many actually do, personally.  I think most use numbers as a reference point to support an overall evaluation, pro or con, of a guy.  But no stress.

    I think it's more used to say "don't rule player X out, here's player Y who started out similarly and did well".

    These can often be the exception rather than the rule, but it does mean "You're telling me there's a chance?". ;-) 

  17. 20 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

    Just curious if in the history of the NFL a GM has had the "balls" to select a qb in the first round, the preceding year that he picked another qb in the first round.

    I don't know. But I bet not many GM's have had those "balls".

    Arizona drafted Murray the year after they drafted Rosen. Same GM, only the HC was different.


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