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  1. I am mistaken, Lawrence is 21 Sam 23. But with the same thought process, if sam is even slightly above average and we can set this franchise up for ten years of playoff caliber talent for what the #1 pick can get us it would also be a fatal mistake. I have seen Sam be average to games/ plays where he is slightly above average. There is a very good chance he can be successful because he is keeping his head above water with no talent around him. We dont know what /if Lawrence can and he will coming off of year of interrupted football
  2. Excellent comparison with Brees. (Curious) Why are you so sure that the best case scenario is Lawrence long term? Lawrence is older than Sam and lost a full year of playing. I don't see how he is light years ahead of Sam in talent. Lawrence can run well, Sam has proven it at the NFL level, the run against Denver was as good as I ever seen. Why are there no run plays designed for Sam? Sam is in the worst situation in the entire NFL
  3. Brandon Tierney and Tiki Barber on the "Tiki and Tierney" radio show went off on the stupidity of anyone who would think to draft Trevor Lawrence because you think Sam Darnald is not good enough. They both were in agreement to simply cite the evidence of players like Alex Smith, Steve Young and Vinny Testeverde that once they had players around them or a real HC they thrived. Sam will be the same. In Sam Darnald's case he has to overcome a terrible, probably the worst HC in the NFL and definitely the least amount of talent. Sam is younger than Burrow and Lawrence. You cant name a situation that is even close to how bad Sam' s is . Get a boatload of picks (if the Jets are bad enough for the #1 overall pick) and use all the high round draft capital to truly build a team around Sam Darnald
  4. Brandon Tierney and Tiki Barber on the "Tiki and Tierney" radio show went off on the stupidity of anyone who would think to draft Trevor Lawrence because you think Sam Darnald is not good enough. They both were in agreement to simply cite the evidence of players like Alex Smith, Steve Young and Vinny Testeverde that once they had players around them or a real HC they thrived. Sam will be the same. In Sam Darnald's case he has to overcome a terrible, probably the worst HC in the NFL and definitely the least amount of talent. Sam is younger than Burrow and Lawrence. You cant name a situation that is even close to how bad Sam' s is . Get a boatload of picks (if the Jets are bad enough for the #1 overall pick) and use all the high round draft capital to truly build a team around Sam Darnald
  5. Why is Chris Johnson so deluded? It's simple economics. He is putting having to pay Gase (and Bowles) in front of the correct thing to do which is replacing Gase. Add that the billionaire owner put his foot in his mouth and called Gase an "Offensive Genius" and you have what you have.
  6. I believe this. It is also a great point if you are defending Darnald. How could any QB find success with a team worse than Kotite's Jets?. So many talking heads stating "how could the Jets lose to Denver?" Easy, Patrick, Juedy, Fant, and Melvin Gordon vs Hogan, Berrios, Jeff Smith, Herndon, and 37 year old Frank Gore. And that's not even mentioning our OLINE. Sam runs for his life on most plays
  7. You can also find it on SNY's FaceBook page
  8. I would say forced. Mangini's first year was not a total failure. He looked competent and his team seemed to follow his lead. So often a young HC is linked with a young QB in hopes to grow together. At the time I believe we had just drafted Kellen Clemens in the second round. Do you think a second year HC with such little experience would rather have an aging HOFer at QB with strong speculation of being a diva or a young QB that he could control in his own image with no fear of being thrown under the bus for not giving into whatever demands?. There was speculation that there were rules for the team and then rules for Favre. So yes, I think Favre was forced on Mangini because the owner put selling jerseys in front of building a championship. I seriously do not think that he named his son after Bret Farve
  9. Mangini got screwed by Jet ownership when they forced an aging diva Brett Favre on him in his second year as HC all to sell jerseys. Thanks Woody.
  10. Excellent post. I would add that early returns show that there is a better than good chance we have our LT set (injury aside) for the long term and our DT from the previous regime (Quinenn) has had a better than average start to only his second season. As far as the QB goes, I dont think he is going anywhere soon, even if we get the #1 pick. He is still quit young (second among starting Qbs) has shown that he can be successful in small sample sizes, had to overcome mono and then covid training camp without preseason. His TD pass in garbage time shows his athletic ability. Many dropped passes by guys who are not starting caliber Wrs and cant get separation. Honestly, what can Darnald do?. . Our OLINE looks significantly better than last year and we are only two games in. I am sure we will continue to build on this unit. Mims really hurts right now.. Bigger than what most expected. I believe if he were playing and shown any signs of having chemistry with Darnald there would be hope. Mims being hurt makes our Wrs corp really look like a helpless unit. Week 2's Wrs, (minus Perriman) you can make an argument that most to all could be replaced next season. (Maybe Vyncent Smith when healthy and Berrios hang on) . I agree, be patient, Rome not built in a day, and if you allow yourself, we are not as bad as being portrayed.
  11. I love it. He will be someone else's problem. Clowney is a former number one over all pick, that's it. You coldnt describe a bum any more clearer. Not advertised as a hard worker. get to the QB consistently and leads the NFL in penalties for the past several years.We finaly have a GM that wont back up the Brinks Trunk for a name only. And I am most excited about it.
  12. Brick was a stud. Not sure you could ask for anything more. Above average, pro bowler, started every game, missed one play in his entire career. Long Island kid and the son of public school teachers who represented himself, the Jets, and Long Island with the utmost class and dignity. In his post career he continues to give back to the Long Island community. Yeah, anyone should take that type of person and player.
  13. Not giving up a first or second rounder for any. I am so fine with Mims and Perriman with Crowder in the slot
  14. Did I miss something because why is Ju Ju Smith automatically being traded from Pitt?
  15. Clowney lead the entire NFL last year in penalties and missed 3 games. That's more penalties than the top penalty offender on the OLINE. Lead the NFL in penalties the 2 prior seasons from last other than Oline-men. With only 3 sacks last year and his top year at 9 1/2 I dont think he is on the Jets radar. Just my opinion.
  16. Winters would be the ideal back up and I hope they resign him for less. Worked really hard to get where he is and played through major pain. On a side note: Did this really happen? I am so glad we traded Adams.
  17. 100% spot on SE. Im not surprised at the ranking of our disgusting uniforms. I was very vocal in my initial and continued disappointment in our new uniforms. Our uniforms are awful. Triangular slash marks instead of stripes? The black uniforms are so out dated and not our colors. The helmet and logo is putrid. A middle school student doodling could have come up with something more creative than the word "JETS" stamped across a green helmet. The image of the tiny football is beyond juvenile. Opportunity wasted. What a shame. Could have finally created an identity of our own but instead we continue to look less than our big brother Giants. Its boarder line criminal that we didnt seize this opportunity considering our "little brother/having to share GIANTS stadium" status. Truely absurd. I am far from a design expert but couldnt we have used a version of the NY symbol with the New York City skyline behind it? Our own version of the NY symbol that somehow is the base of a Fighter JET? It seems like such a no brainer that this was the opportunity to create an identity after years of being little brother to the Giants and the continued nomadic feel of playing in a stadium that is not ours. What an opportunity missed. It's difficult to believe that ownership couldn't realize this from purely a selfish marketing stand point. Absurd
  18. Maybe my point is unclear. I dont think players will agree to play so easily with so much to lose (health wise). Players making a million dollars a year are going to willingly agree to tackle a player from NY who may be a carrier of the virus? Then comfortably go home to to hug wife, small child, elderly parent? Losing the paycheck speaks volume but Im still not so sure if most will be on board.
  19. Great topic Lil O. I have been thinking along the same lines. Are we really expecting players who are financially set to agree to make contact and tackle (most likely sweat) another player? I want to see football as much as anyone, i just don't see how this doesnt become a major issue.
  20. I can understand the initial concern that only one Wr was drafted however Lawrence Cager and George Cambell are two undrafted fee agents we signed look real encouraging. Both were expected to be drafted so I don't think we are as bad off as some are stating
  21. Surprising this player was not drafted. Size, speed, played at a high level, productive (when healthy). Even with the injuries you'd think a team would have burned a late round draft pick on him. Good for us. Im thinking the chances of Cager sticking on the roster or practice squad is better than most undrafted free agents ( Unless Im missing something)
  22. Awesome take Jetstream , I’m not surprised. Honestly I think Joe Douglas is had a very good day, not good, very good. I, like you, wished we took at least one more drafted Wr and it would have been great in my opinion And that’s the thing, “in my opinion,” I’m not Joe Douglas and feel confident that he passed on players for a good reason that I thought were no brainers at the time. With that said, I did not agree with a few pics. Didn’t understand the the QB pick until I read that the Patriots possibly wanted him and we do not have the cap space for what we want to do with priding FAs and sign a back up veteran QBs. Did I scratch my head (putting that lightly) when we took a safety? Yes. Did I do the same when we took Zuniga? Hell yeah. I was like Josh Jones! Ezra Cleveland! Henessy! Cushenberry!! Gandy Golden!! Peoples Jones!!! The Prince!!! Then we take a Qb? What!?? A punter??? WTF!?? Then I took a breathe, read up on some of the reasoning behind the picks (like Ashtyn Davis an athletic freak projected to go late first round/ like the punter who is the best prospect in years and we now don’t have to resign the one we have and can use that money elsewhere ). But again, who am I? Douglas knows best. What sold me was the trade down in round two and still getting Mims. Douglas’s skill, balls, luck, brilliance , whatever, even if Mims fails, it was an area of need and he did not panic and gained valuable picks for a team that needs and overhaul of players. Secondly, and this really solidified it for me was the trade down of the last 3d we gained from the previous trade mentioned, to trade with Bellicheck and gain two 4ths and a 6 next year. Trading with Bellicheck!!!? On draft day!??? So much pressure to get it right. A lesser GM would have played it safe and not want to get involved. Not Noe Douglas! Just wow! The balls on the first year GM! I am total fine with it because I do not know more than Joe Douglas (or any NFL scout/executive) BUT the difference is that I have confidence after what Douglas did to maneuver during this draft. After seeing how he controlled the draft and gained 10 players plus some real interesting undrafted free agents I feel real good about this . Statistically all of these players and moves will most likely not pan out. But I feel real confident moving forward with Douglas as GM. You gotta love what you saw from Douglas over the past few days.

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