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You give any QB that much to look over the field and make his throw and he is going to shred you defense, including Sam. This is why many of us want to continue to build the offensive line. The last time we were a team to fear was after we drafted Mangold and Brick. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Just a few point on this whole thread, Sam was developing nicely under Bowels, he really went to hell under Gase. Seems a few others really regressed under his coaching as well. So is Sam salvageable under a new coaching staff with an offense that more fits his skill set. One just has to look at some past examples some recent and some. Way back. Josh Allen is the obvious recent choice, that coaching staff corrected his many flaws and turned him into a FQB. A past example would be a Brett Farve who Atlanta trade away and came to regret it, as the Packers turned him in to a Hall of Fame FQB. So there is still some hope that Sam can be reclaimed and be a Jets QB for many years to come under the right Tutelage. Then we have the unknown in James Morgan, who I have said in other post is a baller with all the skills to play at the NFL level. I still believe there is more going on there then is being let on. So taking either Fields or Wilson is not a given.With many needs to fill trading down is really an excellent option to continue to fill the roster with young talent. I also believe if we’re going to keep Sam It’s imperative that we have a strong solid offense line to protect him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

I want to know what we have in Morgan, it’s been too damn quiet with any info on him. I’ve seen this guy play and he is a baller. If what is going on is what I think, let Sam stay for his final year, along with a Fitz like vet as mentor and safe backup. Then trade out of the second spot for multiple picks to continue to fill out the roster. Work Sam and James in spring and summer against each other. Best QB starts don’t think it will be Sam, the other becomes the backup. If Sam loses the competition and we get an offer for him before the season, make the trade and add picks to next seasons draft. The vet becomes the backup and we can then bring in another rookie to groom and develop. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

If he there at 23 it would be a steal Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Again, despite what many here believe we already have a stud TE, his name is Chris Herndon. He spent most of this year blocking instead of being involved in the passing game. Yes, he has had some awful moments this year as well, but he still is the real deal. As with Sam, it’s my belief that coaching has played a big part of his down year. The last few games you all saw what Canes fans saw for 4 years. Before we start throwing out our talent with the bath water, let’s see them with a full offseason program and full Training Camp under a new coaching staff and find out if he is beast or bust Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

I would have to say Mangini as well with a reformed (if that’s possible) Rex a close second. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

No funny, started his Jets. Career with an interception and end his Jets career with one, strange. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Again , for those of you that think Herndon is a waste, that’s just a small sample of what he did at the U. When he can be more involved in the passing game and not kept in to block 80% of the time you will see he really is a keeper and a damn good TE Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Going to just throw this out here, so please don’t shoot the message writer . I find it interesting that we have really heard nothing about Morgan and his progress or lack of , adjusting the pro game. I would really like to know how he is doing and what JD who drafted him early feels about that choice. If we do trade Sam and don’t take a QB at 2 and trade down and chose not to take Wilson with that trade down spot if he is there; does not Morgan become a serious factor along with what every veteran is there, to have a chance to be the starter ? An if that is the case have the Jets been keeping Morgan hidden away to allow him to move back and forth from the active roster to the practice squad without having to worry about losing him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Sar is absolutely correct we will not be firing Adam Gase ,the Jets will thank him for his service and say all the appropriate things and express there deep sorrow that things didn’t work out and then, without saying it, tell the world that they are MOVING ON IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Listen, Clemson defense did not show up last night two of there main starters missed a half each for stupidity. They were on the field too damn long with Ohio O line running it down there throat. Can’t recall a game where the defense had to be on the field for such long stretches with all the 3 and outs. On the other side Ohio defense was bringing it and keeping TL and ETN in check for the most part. I have to give big credit to Ohio’s game plan and Fields for a brilliant game. They have a huge chip on there shoulder and they came to play. All that being said, I refuse to dismiss the previous years of exceptional QB play by TL. One game will not diminish that for me nor will one game make Fields the great savior. Both these young men should have very good careers in the NFL, as both are extremely talented. After last night show by JF I would be more confident if he were our pick at 2. Yet, I stand by my original thought that if TL goes at 1 we should trade the pick and load up. Now more then ever if we chose to stick with Sam one more year and see if away from Gase he can be reclaimed, that pick is solid gold. If TL is there at 2 then that’s the pick, I still believe he is a generational talent. If Jax takes him , then it’s my belief there will be many teams willing to trade up for JF and that could be worth the risk to keep Sam one more year and take the win fall that would come from that trade. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

JMHO, after TL there is not a QB worth taking in the first round. I would much rather stick with Sam for another year along with Morgan and a vet. See if the new staff can correct the flaws in him. Let the 3 of them fight it out in spring and training camp, best of the bunch starts. Trade down the first pick and add talent all thru the lower rounds and into next year. If Sam fails with the new staff, then next year he is traded for what every he can bring to continue to fill the roster. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

What a BS call Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

With respect, have you or anybody here even seen Morgan throw a pass. I have, now, I am not saying he is another Brady or anything or even if he will succeed on the NFL level. Yet, he has a very powerful arm is quite accurate on his passes and is very football smart. JD did not use the pick on him for no reason,he saw the potential in him. I believe next season with a full offseason program and training camp and with preseason games being played, some fans eyes will be opened, JMHO... Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Would say Q was concussed with him throwing up on the way to the locker room Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app