Paradis

Swear to god these 1st down draw plays. Kill me now.

*yawn*

Honestly, I think White's been nothing short of amazing - given the Oregon trail he's traveled to be here. We have [barely] seen flashes of competence at QB since Pennington, and White has already hit that bar and nearly exceeded it 2 games this year... White's situation here is an analog for America's infatuation with hyperbole. Everything has to be the best, otherwise it's the worst. The outliers (ie. Mahomes) too often are seen as some kind of attainable/reasonable measurement of success. Instead of comparing him to Zeus, how about we look at "What's needed to win with White".... If he continues to play the he has, you can win on any given sunday with him. I love this WR class. Big time.... though i do see some overvalued guys (in december) at the top. We'll see where this is in 4-6 weeks.

I think we've already learned a lot... I'm not sure "1 game" is the measure of White's effectiveness anymore. It's going to be where we are in January.

That's already happened behind closed doors to the people that need to hear it... what you're seeing is what Zach needs to hear to stay engaged. "keep working...you never know"... The analysis of his behavior as best as we know it, suggests that he is also the kind of kid that being told "best luck next summer in camp" will likely lead to complete disengagement and pouting. They'll attack that in the offseason, but for now, they're telling him what he needs to hear - not what Rob wants to say.

No, that's what he's putting out there because that's what Zach/PR need to hear. That's what Rob needs to do at the moment... it's for optics only. The players know. Rob knows. It's White's team now, and Zach is not coming back, barring some calamity of injuries and errors that would be far outside the realm of "losing a couple of games".

true, but he's played what, 5 NFL games? He should get ALL the leash given how well he's developed with such limited "live rounds" time. If he continues down this path, the trajectory is very high for him... The "meh" tone about some of the missed opportunities on sunday needs to be put in temporal context.

He was recovering from an injury that cost him the majority of the offseason... so, not shocking he wasn't out there over Cager. Agree to disagree, on Conklin and Uzomah being people the staff would love nothing more than to see leapfrogged by your rookie TE. Why did we even sign them if we can't wait for them to be overtaken. Makes no sense. I'm not saying Ruckert has set anything on fire... just that any narrative about Jeremy "struggling" to assert himself is garbage. "oh he had a drop!" Well, i guess we should throw in the towel and burn him at the stake then.

disagree. If Rob is worth half his weight in salted meat, then Zach only dresses again when/if he ACTUALLY resets. MW hurt -- > Flacco/Streveler. You risk wrecking the whole "reset process" by letting him play again before he cleans up his whole shtick.

go with Streveler at that point. Wilson is done for '22

ahhh no, on the "clearly Ruckert" end of this post. You just paid 2 TEs... clearly, they're going to play over the rookie, barring bad games like this. Personally, i think they're a bit redundant, and neither is really adding wrinkles to the offense. Conklin has been OK to good, but I want more from the position. our TEs should have at least 2-3 TDs in a game like yesterday. Neither moved off the line with a ton of nimbleness tbh when I paid attention.

This is how I know you’re filling the other 2/3 of the pie up. You said you had a friend in the agency business or something, sure but this isn’t how leadership or coaching works. It’s not how people plan or machinate. What you’re describing is the rich parents guide to disciplining your kids between golf games. Zach will be humbled when and if he becomes humbled. There’s no time table on that, and no coach or leader would assume differently. What you’re describing is what mothers do for optics with first born son. if there’s any chance he has a career with NYJ, it’s because of the next 8 months he goes through some serious soul searching and reinvents how he approaches the game. Everyone knows it.

i don't disagree -- the redzone woes of today's L are on him... and over the last 2 years there's been too many peaks and valley's to say whether or not he's "the guy".. I was speaking to the "he's the worst, kill him now" crowd. Consider the following: We have no idea (and neither does MLF himself) what his playbook can do, week in and week out... He's been working with a lame duck QB since he got here. How the fck can you measure the effectiveness of your plays if your QB is hot mess like ZW... zero Objectivity to measure. He's working with no threat of a running game at all. MW has 5 starts to his name? Still feeling out his own game within the game. I'm not here to let MLF off the hook, but it's tough to make any absolute statements.

He called a great game last week. Trying living life with a better temperament. Seriously.

Win or lose, I’m good with these Jets

Too old for this

UNBELIEVABLE

Ugh

Never wavered. Knew we’d be in it in the 4th

Go to hell

Are you kidding me

Can we please stop running into the back of the centre

Really feeling the No Breece Hall factor today. We’re too one dimensional. Easy to defend inside the 15.

TDs over FG. Story of todays game