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I believe that was actually Alec Ogletree, Odell’s new teammate

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/charges-against-nfls-robby-anderson-dropped-after-javier-ortizs-claims-dont-hold-up-10360015 Charges Dropped Against NFL Player After Cops Can't Back Up Javier Ortiz's Story Jerry IannelliMay 17, 2018 When NFL wide receiver Robby Anderson was arrested for allegedly shoving a Miami cop at Rolling Loud in May 2017, the sports world freaked out and labeled Anderson a player with "character problems." But New Times warned the public not to rush to judgment too quickly, because the arresting officer whom Anderson allegedly shoved was none other than Javier Ortiz, Miami's outspoken former police union president, who has been repeatedly accused of perjury, lying on arrest forms, and using excessive force. It sure looks like Ortiz has done it again: According to a close-out memo from the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office, prosecutors have dropped felony charges against Anderson for resisting arrest with violence. The prosecutors say they had no case because the other cops on the scene couldn't back up Ortiz's story that Anderson had shoved him first. Anderson was arrested outside Bayfront Park during the 2017 hip-hop festival Rolling Loud. He had backstage passes, but Ortiz claimed the NFL wide receiver became irate when he was denied entry. When Ortiz ordered Anderson to get down on the ground, he claimed the football player refused and then shoved him. Ortiz then tackled Anderson, who was later charged with one felony count of resisting an officer with violence and a misdemeanor count of obstruction. But according to the State Attorney's Office, multiple other cops present when the alleged shoving occurred all testified they didn't see it didn't happen. "None of the other officers present claim to have witnessed the alleged push," reads a statement, first reported on by Andy Slater. Prosecutors add that "additionally, in deposition Sergeant Alex Diaz claims to have only seen the defendant raise his hand to Captain Ortiz but never actually push him. Officer Kenya Crocker, who was also present, stated in deposition that while present she did not witness Mr. Anderson push Captain Ortiz or raise his hand to him." Ortiz also skipped two scheduled depositions and never bothered to rebut any of the cops' claims or Anderson's side of the story. Prosecutors said they had no choice but to drop the case against Anderson today. This is far from an isolated incident with Ortiz. In 2011, he and a group of fellow cops tasered a man outside Ultra Music Festival after they claimed he tried to fight a bunch of officers. But someone filmed the altercation, and the video contradicted the statements Ortiz made in his police documents. The victim's charges were also dropped, and a defense lawyer working on the case alerted Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle that Ortiz had likely committed perjury, which is a felony. He was never charged. And the man beaten by Ortiz and the other cops was later awarded a $400,000 settlement. In 2017, Ortiz was accused of fabricating an arrest report once more after the then-union chief claimed that Daniel Suarez, a naval officer and former member of the Civilian Investigative Panel (CIP), which investigates complaints against cops, had secretly threatened him outside a nightclub in 2012. But Ortiz had never arrested Suarez for the alleged crime despite meeting him in public repeatedly for multiple years. Suarez instead maintains that Ortiz made the whole arrest report up to smear Suarez, who is a prominent police critic. Suarez has filed multiple complaints about the allegedly fake report. This is also not the first time Ortiz has been accused of wrongfully arresting an NFL player. University of Miami star and New Orleans Saints legend Jonathan Vilma in 2011 filed a complaint alleging that during a 2009 traffic stop, Ortiz waved a gun in Vilma's face, screamed at him, and arrested him on false charges that were later dropped. New Times also caught Ortiz this year appearing in ads for an anti-aging clinic that dispenses testosterone and peptides of human growth hormone. Plus, the CIP raked Ortiz over the coals earlier this year for posting selfies smiling next to detained black suspects, which is an obvious violation of MPD's social media policy. Ortiz was also somehow not fired for doxxing and harassing a police critic in 2016. The latest Anderson case is another test for new Chief Jorge Colina and Mayor Francis Suarez. Colina has tried to add transparency to the department and quickly called for a cop caught on video trying to kick a suspect to be fired. And Suarez wants to become a "strong mayor" with extra administrative power. Former Chief Rodolfo Llanes actually promoted Ortiz from lieutenant to captain in 2017. Now, with yet another question about Ortiz's honesty on a police report, it's up to Colina and Suarez to take action.

Not going to go back and read through the thread nor am I going to speak for anyone else, but this isn’t about what anyone here personally thinks of the Giants. Rather, it all hinges on how Giants ownership and management perceives the team. There’s a strong case to be made that the Giants see themselves as a “win now” team. The moves they’ve made this offseason (Ogletree, Solder, Stewart) along with the fact that their new 67 year old GM isn’t getting any younger suggest that this may be the case, as does the seemingly renewed commitment to Eli (though this could just be coachspeak) and Gettleman’s repeated insistence that when you’re picking at number 2 you need to get a hall of fame type player. Then there is the fan angle. While the Giants are not typically the team that bends to the whims of their fan base like the Jets do, I don’t think the Giants ownership group has ever experienced the type of backlash that they received last season over the benching of Eli. The play on the field was certainly the bigger factor, but the fans’ reaction to the Eli benching played a large role in ownerships’ decision to fire McAdoo and Reese at the end of the year. By and large the Giants fans see this as a quick fix, a retool rather than a rebuild. The Eagles just won a Super Bowl and the fans are not going to be happy if the Giants do not do everything in their power to surround Eli with impact players so he can make a run at a 3rd ring over the next few years. They think Eli has another 3-4 years left. Whether the Giants front office feels the same is the question. To me this is all crazy talk. The Giants were abysmal last year. They haven’t scored over 30 points in a game in the past two seasons. They’re deluding themselves if they think Eli has anything more than a year or two left, if he’s not actually done already. They have a golden opportunity to set themselves up for the next 10-15 years. If the Giants were rational they take the QB. But there’s certainly a chance that they’re not rational and they go for the quick fix.

Forgot to mention that they brought the urn containing Wellington Mara's ashes with them as well. Don't know how that impacts your analysis but you may want to recalculate.

Per Google, Chris Mara is actually the Giants VP of Player Personnel. Don't know if he has any ownership interest but not totally surprising that he's there. Abrams is assistant GM.

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Looking forward to winning a meaningless week 17 game next season and missing out on Darnold because of it

Are we watching the same game? Feet were clearly in bounds, only question was if he bobbled it which I don't think he did.

Then don't you think maybe they should've, I don't know, not agreed to give him that power in the CBA? Like the 2nd Circuit has already said? Instead of continuing to waste the taxpayers money trying to get out of a term of the agreement that they negotiated for months?

I understand your point, but couldn't it be said that as the league continues to be more and more pass friendly the value of players with this skillset has risen, along with their draft stock? Knowing what we know about how these types of players have transitioned and been hugely successful in today's NFL, it's definitely quite possible the guys listed would have been graded and selected higher had they come out of college today as opposed to a few years ago.

By 3 to 13 pounds, with the benefit of multiple years in a professional strength and conditioning program. Lee ran a 4.47 at 232 pounds, he can very easily tack on a few more pounds of muscle without losing his athletic ability.

First link I went to: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000641197/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-prospects-for-2016-nfl-draft Ranked 11, 8, 25, and 17 on all four draft guys' big boards.

This. I can't see the Supreme Court granting cert on this nonsense. I'd at least hope they'd have more important cases to hear with their time.

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Perhaps weighted is the wrong term, more like non-adjusted for great disparities in volume. DYAR seems like a stat which does make that adjustment and he ranks top 10 in that. Regardless, I have a hard time believing that there's many receivers out there that, substituted for Marshall, would make this offense more efficient.