[Jeff Smith’s OTA showing and the roster]

1 hour ago, rtnelson said:

Berrios was that guy last year, no?  That worked out.

So.....

one.

Actually, the last guy I remember before that was Robby Anderson.

[Jeff Smith’s OTA showing and the roster]

2 hours ago, SickJetFan said:

Every year there are players that shine in OTAs and fizzle in TC I would not put too much stock into any of it

Beat me to it.

[Jeff Smith’s OTA showing and the roster]

Every year it seems we have a darling WR during the spring and early OTAs that everybody gets excited for, but who inevitably disappears once the pads come on.

[Dan Orlovsky Believes In Zach]

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

41 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

I think we're getting off course here, lol, I was just saying is we didnt "attack" the WR position by adding 1 new face this offseason. That's all.

But yes, I agree with everything else you unnecessarily typed here and I'll add, I think they are top 5 in rush attempts w/ the addition of Hall and the versatile TE's.

Yeah, I kinda forgot what my initial point there was, for a second, lol.

I'll just say: no, they didn't attack the WR group, specifically, only bringing in one new face, but that doesn't take into account what they did at the TE position.

u always

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

15 minutes ago, Lith said:

All good.

You mean, something you said on Jet Nation was taken out of context and blown out of proportion?  Shocking!!!  I guess you are a full fledged member of JN now.  Welcome

None of my comments were directed at you specifically.  I did not even realize that you had used the term that spurred the conversation. 

Personally, I just wanted to call him Taylor Swift and have a laugh.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

7 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

I honestly dont remember the Jets interested in a single FA WR.  I remember the trade talks that were never going to happen and I remember being in on Hill but if they were feeling desperate at WR, you'd think they would have at least brought Cole or Crowder back.  Either way, they certainty didnt attack the market, they literally added 1 new face and that was via the draft.

Ah, you may be right. I may be conflating the trade talks with FA talks. I can't even recall who the FA WRs were. Still, they supposedly were active in trade talks, just nothing materialized.

I really don't think they're loosing much in either Cole or Crowder. Cole, IIRC, wasn't spectacular, and Crowder (while I liked him in the past for us) is kinda redundant with both the emergence of Berrios and Moore.

Honestly, unless we're dumping Davis (which I don't think is feasible) then there was really only one spot available in the top 4 after resigning Berrios, and that went to Garret Wilson. Any other acquisition is going to be fighting with Mims and Jeff Smith for the final two spots, and isn't going to have any meaningful impact anyway. We could still see them add a vet when roster cuts start.

Plus, I think the revamped TE room will have waaay more of an impact than the bottom 3 or 4 WRs will.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

You have never seen that language or tone from me.  At least not that I can recall. 

I do agree with you on Becton.  I don't see the same reaction towards Zach.  Disappointment in his play, yes, but not the same level of vitriol.  Jet fans are rooting for Zach to succeed in 22 regardless of what we think of his 21 season.   I know I am.

To this day, though, Zach is giving us more reason to believe in him than Becton, so I can understand the dissent towards Becton. A month ago I would've said the Becton doubt was being overblown, but not so much anymore.

Still (shrugs) both players will show us definitely this season.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

16 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Where do people come up with this garbage and how has do they have the time?  Its getting out of hand with all these stupid silly made up stats.  Any bozo can come with anything these days and people bite on it.  This isnt real.  This isnt quantifiable.  The idea that there selling this with any shed of accuracy and legitimacy is ridiculous.  lol

I wonder why these terrible disappointing players who kept letting down Wilson were able to turn it on for the other QB's?  Do they have a made up stat for what happened those games? 

My favorite part was, "that why the Jets were so keen to attack WR" - oh really?  lmfao.  The Jets added 1 new WR, in the draft.  They added TE's, is that what he meant?  Otherwise, I dont call sitting at your allotted draft spot and taking a WR who was arguably the BAP as "attacking receiver this offseason"  There was no attack, they signed zero veteran WR's.   The resigned Berrios and drafted a WR.

Well, to be fair, apparently they were going hard after a number of FA WRs, because that's all we heard all spring, but none of them wanted to sign here, lol.

I still expected them to sign someone other than Berrios, but I guess it's still possible once roster cut downs start, depending on the development of Mims and Jeff Smith (lol).

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

6 minutes ago, PorP said:

I think if you go back and re-read my 2nd post. I quantify hater as exactly what you just quoted.

 

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

I think the issue is that many see the use of the term as an unserious debate tactic. This is a Jets messageboard. There are no “haters” of the Jets or their players here.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

“Kid” used to be my least favorite overused term on here. How I yearn for those days again.

My least favorite overused term is @T0mShane

Gets used way too often, and I yearn for the days when it's never uttered again.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

7 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I wasn’t, spent my high school years in the cafeteria asking  people,” you gonna eat that?” 

Did you also go back in line for seconds?

 

Because I did.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

5 minutes ago, PorP said:

Uncertainty does not equal never saying anything positive (edit)

You're debating a point I didn't make

In your first post you refer to the "haters". Then again in your 2nd post.

Unless you were just being tongue-in-cheek. But, that's a term that gets thrown around a lot around here nowadays.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

10 minutes ago, PorP said:

We definitely agree. And I do think some of the balls off receivers hands were Zach's fault. 

My thing I guess,  we went from a 3-4 to a 4-3, a west coast offense,  new coaching staff,  2 new primary receivers,  1 new primary RB and still no TE's all in 4 months. 

No way is that on the shoulders of 1 guy,  but QB is the only position on the team that pays for the mistakes of other positions. Do I think Zack was flawless... no he played like a rookie.  Do I think some of Zach's stats came from other position groups learning or being poor... yes. 

There were definitely many people around Zach who were failing at their job last year, but it's not like he gave us a whole lot to be excited about other than anecdotal tropes like "potential" and "if he does this", or "if he learns how to do that".

It's all meaningless until he can show us when it matters, and anyone who acknowledges that isn't a "hater", just skeptical.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

5 minutes ago, PorP said:

If is excuses.... and if was really Zach...

Why the new TE's, WR's, catching back.

You'll never solve any problem by pointing a finger and pretending it doesn't exist

There can be more than one problem at the same time.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

5 minutes ago, PorP said:

Haters... engage power rings.....unite

I'm not even as down on Zach as these other "haters" you speak of. I just have the capacity to remember that we've done this excuse-making spiel with every failed Jets QB that I can remember. Every last one.

 

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

1 minute ago, PorP said:

What do you call people who can't say anything but negative....

Realists.... truth tellers....pragmatists....

Bwahahaha... they're haters

Okay, Taylor Swift.

[PFF - "No QB saw a greater % of his attempts fall incomplete due to some kind of receiver error than Zach Wilson"]

[Is anyone else talking themselves into the Jets being good this season after swearing to never do that again?]

13 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The problem is that every time I think this way the Jets roundhouse kick me right in balls. Decades upon decades of getting punted in the nuts and I’m talking myself into it happening again. 

Just admit it. You like the pain.

[Is anyone else talking themselves into the Jets being good this season after swearing to never do that again?]

25 minutes ago, Lith said:

Wow.  I am really surprised by the optimism in this thread.  I think we are heading in the right direction, but I have thought that before.  Until we are good again, I find it hard to believe we will be good.  I am excited for the season, look forward to getting togther with friends to watch games, go to a couple in person.  See what some of the young guys can do, should be a fun season.  Hoping to be surprised, but I am not expecting a good team. 

We could start 8-0 and I would probably still fear the 9 game losing streak to close out the season.

 

And I'd still consider 8-9 to be a reasonably successful season.

[Is anyone else talking themselves into the Jets being good this season after swearing to never do that again?]

[Merged Becton Threads]

11 minutes ago, Bronx said:

@Spoot-Face @Fantasy Island @Integrity28

What a great combo of winners!

Poopface + dwarf + monkey=

Poopfacedwarfmonkeyfuker

Is this you not falling for the trap?

lmao

[Gerald McCoy is on board]

This is good to hear. I've never known Gerald McCoy to be wrong before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, who is Gerald McCoy?

[Mini Camp Updates]

18 minutes ago, hawk said:

The comments on Mims are to 31 other teams not the Jets fan base....IMO

That's an interesting thought.

[Merged Becton Threads]

29 minutes ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

As @Spoot-Face pointed out that first step up with full weight bearing on the knee was concerning. I can give a sh*t about his weight, from someone who had severe lower leg injuries that is a scary sight. I am no way trying to be an alarmist but I have experienced and seen that type of step too many times in my years of rehab. 

To be fair, I'm not even sure if that was the same knee he got injured (I can't remember). For all I know, he struggled with that step up because either: fat, lazy, or tired.