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  1. On ‎3‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 1:03 AM, thadude said:

    You must love governors with a 20% approval rating

    OOOHHH got me.... just said I'm not his biggest fan, but keep relishing paying the highest taxes in the nation and pretending it started with him. 

  2. 18 hours ago, thadude said:

    Wait till they replace Francesa with the worst ever governor of New Jersey


    Both drive time shows in New York will be hideous

    You must LOVE property taxes......I don't love the guy but you can easily make a case that the one who made his boyfriend the head of the Port Authority was far worse. 

  3. Just now, #27TheDominator said:

    I Like Holmes.  I wouldn't pay a bunch for him, but he is a D2 guy and is physically an NFL guy.  His catch rate is pretty bad, but he could be a nice rotational piece.  I am probably biased because I watched him in the 2013 Thanksgiving game where he went off and made a couple of circus catches against Dallas.  

    I could be wrong about him but the guy's career trajectory is going in the wrong direction.  He made a jump in year 3 to 47 catches but has backed that up with consecutive 13 catch seasons.  I could live with a roll of the dice on him but I'd rather give the opportunities to guys like Peake or Smith at this point.

  4. 11 hours ago, Tinstar said:

    It's called football. I remember many a jet fan criticizing Herman Edwards when he elected to run the football at Pittsburg and try for 2 game Winning FGs . The kicker missed and Herm was a Moron .


    I agree it's a terrible play by Ryan but these 2 situations are not comparable.  Herm settled for a 53 yarder with Doug Brien (never known for his strong leg) in a stadium that's notoriously hard to kick in against a defense that they struggled to run against all game.

    Freeman averaged 7 yards a carry, they were in perfect kicking conditions with a top 3 kicker and it would have been at worst a 40 yarder they were settling for. 

  5. On ‎1‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 2:45 PM, Jetdawgg said:

    Bowles better make it competitive. This is a major problem for the Jets. They bring in FA's who then come in and run things because the Jets do nor develop their own. A culture cannot be developed when FA cast offs from other teams set the agenda.

    The better option is to keep drafting their own. Glennon is not a SB QB. He could not keep Winston on the bench

    I don't disagree in general but what QB is keeping the #1 pick of the draft on the bench for 2 years?

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  6. 13 hours ago, Ken Shroy said:

    There was no great value in what they were doing,” Mangini said. “It wasn’t worth it. It wasn’t worth it to me personally. It wasn’t worth it to the relationship.” The relationship died. Belichick’s legacy was tainted. Mangini was seen as a traitor. “I cared about him,” Mangini said. “I didn’t want to hurt him. I didn’t want to hurt the Patriots. They were a huge part of my life, too, and the Kraft family. The Krafts were always great to me. It wasn’t like I was thinking I really want to get these guys. My thought was I don’t want to put my team at a competitive disadvantage, no matter how small.”

    Funny....I would think there would be great value in knowing what play or defense the opposing team will run before the play starts.   Seems like a lot of time, effort and risk for no value.

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  7. 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

    Not universally

    What Idzik was doing was a proper rebuild. He was fired because he sounded like a schmuck at a press conference. That was the disaster.

    Hell no... he was fired because his drafts were an abortion.  You can't rebuild when you can't draft worth a damn!

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  8. 1 hour ago, JetsFan12 said:

    Yes, and the results and game changing plays speak for themselves....

    Again, you appear to be watching different results and different plays, though his jumping offsides last year in Buffalo week 17 on an obvious "draw them off" situation could be considered game changing.  Sheldon has clearly leveled off at this point of his career, his missing several games due to being a colossal idiot has probably contributed to that.  If there is one of the three that is not worth the long term investment it's Sheldon and it's not close.

  9. 2 hours ago, ECURB said:

    Why chase the points there and risk a big momentum swing or worse a pick 6 or fumble (2 points for them?) in that scenario?

    Imagine if they got a sack fumble and ran it back making it a 10 point game instead of a 12 point game and they get the ball then you would all be killing him for risking it.

    Rule of thumb is not to chase points in that scenario... Very little time ledt and a 2 score lead regardless.

    Rule of thumb there is without question to go for 2.  It's not chasing points when there are 4 minutes left.  It is a 6% chance they miss an extra point and a 50% chance they get the 2 pt conversion.  Don't know about you, but I will take 50% over 6% any day.

    And people saying "it should not have mattered" are missing the point.  You do everything you can to put the nail in the coffin instead of saying "it shouldn't matter in the end."

    That said, I like Bowles and I am very happy today. 

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  10. Just now, Rangers9 said:

    There is no evidence of that just a rumor. And if his agent floated that to the Jets it was just part of the original negotiations. Obviously an agent starts with a high figure but we don't know if that 16 or 18 rumor was at all true. The Jets were the ones who were leaking info to the press. At least at the start.  And he offered to sign for the 12 mil one year two months before they signed him. The whole thing was a distraction and created an unneeded Qb controversy. Look you have every right to your opinion and I respect it. But you're starting to make personal comments and that's the end of the line for me in any conversation. You can have the last word. 

    See my last post.  Adios....

  11. 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

    So let's look at Mac's drafts. Both guys had two drafts. Not exactly earth shattering.  Both guys drafted Qbs in the 2nd round. Geno actually was a good pick. He was having a great year at WVU and was expected to go top ten. And then after they finished poorly and he didn't play well he dropped to the 2nd round. At that spot in the draft he was a good selection and worth taking a chance on which is exactly what Mac did with Hack who didn't play well at Penn St his final two seasons. And what is this about Maxwell. The corners Idzik tried to sign were DRC and Davis. Agreed that Revis wouldn't have signed for 10 mil but he might not have gotten a better offer. And now you're saying we had nothing better to spend the cap space on other than to greatly overpay Revis. Like how's about a good tight end. Or O-linemen, or a fast linebacker (in 2015). I never said Idzik was good. But to me he's not the fall guy for 2014 and nearly as bad as the Idzik haters claim he was. As a matter of fact as I recall a month ago or so there were a few posts on this board about how his drafts were not so bad. 

    When we blasted Idzik's drafts you whined for more time.  Now you want to compare 2 drafts when one guy's second draft hasn't even seen the field yet? 

    Geno was a good pick?  Delusional - just because you understand the logic of the selection doesn't make it a good selection.  You don't understand the concepts that the result wins the day and the result has been dreadful.

    Hack has not played a down yet - Absurd comparison

    Maxwell was the corner who got the signed for the most money prior to Revis signing with the Jets 2 days later.  You can't even get your offseasons straight.  The Jets had money to spend and my very simple point was that Revis was a better value than Maxwell.  Simple.

    Most of those posts defending him were yours. 

    I am obviously wasting my time with someone who just ignores facts, chases his tail, compares things that are 100% incomparable and outright denies actual results as if we all did not just witness it.  I wish you well but I joined this board to blog with other reasonable Jet fans and for that reason, I will be moving on from you and blocking your posts. 

  12. 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said:

    BTW as for Fitz. There were no jobs at the time. Now we see what happens in Minnesota and Dallas and there could be more. So they could have let him walk he was only asking for low starter money and a one year deal. It was completely stupid. And they ended up giving it to him anyways. They could have had him at Florham Park two months earlier. It would have been nice without all that uncertainty. Esp for the players and the coaches.

    No he wanted $18M and they got him for $12M so again the facts get in the way of the delusions.  But Minnesota struck gold with that trade, right? 

  13. 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

    No he gets 6 mil guaranteed in 2017. They can cut him but they have to pay him that 6 mil. He doesn't suck at all. He's a HOF player and still very good. Worth 10 mil just for his brains and leadership alone. The contract is brilliant for him. It makes it hard to cut him and he gets 34 mil the first two years. He's not worth it and it killed our cap. That was money we could have spent in other areas. And maybe we could have gotten him cheaper, like for 10 mil on a one year contract or something. In years 4 and 5 they can keep him for 11 mil each year. And Revis in the past never tore up contracts and took a pay cut. It's not in his DNA, Again in year 3 if he's on the roster he makes 15 mil. If they cut him he gets 6. That's the only way he gets 3-39. By cutting him next year. So in reality he gets 39 for playing 2 seasons if they cut him.

    Killed our cap?  Who else were you signing other than him last offseason?  Remember the team sucked and had no talent on account of your hero's horrendous drafts.  I am aware of what he gets in 2017 making it likely they don't cut him which is why I said after next year.  You think with Maxwell getting $13, Revis would sign for $10M for 1 year....yeesh... there is simply no reasoning with you.  Revis doesn't get to tear up the contract - the Jets do!!!!  

    I am literally astounded by the nonsense you continue to peddle.  You were called out 5 different times to name the several pro bowlers your hero drafted and you just continue to ignore all the facts that get in the way of your delusional theories.  I have had my fill of this nonsense....... I implore you to find the team with the cheapest owner and worst executive (who will still be 5x better than your hero) and you will be much happier that way.

  14. 2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

    39 guaranteed isn't 13 mil per season. They overpay to give him the 17 in the first two years and then make it almost impossible to cut him in year 3 because he has 7 guaranteed in year 3. If they cut him they pay him 7 mil for nothing so unless the guy is finished it makes no sense to cut him. He's worth 8 mil in 2017. But they pay him 15. For the last two years the price is reasonable about 10.9 each year. So Revis is on a fast track to make 70 mil over 5 years. And that's at age 30, after his great years have concluded. Maybe you didn't see him play last season but he's not a 39 mil guaranteed player anymore. Here is his contract http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/darrelle-revis-4275/. So where's all of the great negotiating from Mac. All he did with Fitz was almost disrupt the season and created a Qb controversy that shouldn't have happened. And what did he get from it. Nothing. 

    If he sucks as bad as you say he does, then they can cut him after next year with ZERO cap hit.  The structure of the contract as far as guaranteed years as opposed to bonus was brilliant.  They will likely tear it up after next year as he converts to safety.  He is on no fast track to $70M but don't get the facts get in the way of your delusions.  He was a consensus top 3 corner and was paid like it.  No one in the NFL wanted Fitz and he was negotiated in a different manner.  Simple common sense.  You apparently have no feel for how silly you sound trying to compare the negotiations of two polar opposite players.

    I'll take $39M for 3 years of Revis long before I would have paid $13M per year for Maxwell.  You should really just go find a team that refuses to sign anyone and is content to suck. 

  15. 2 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    Look just because Mac cuts his picks doesn't mean they are bad football players or were terrible selections. Like many GMs Mac prefers his own players.

    But seemingly the rest of the NFL has no use for Idzik's players.   But I know they are all great, it's all a media conspiracy, he deserved 3 more years to suck, Mac should have not signed anyone in 2015 and we could maybe build a roster of guys making the NFL minimum or rookie money and brag about all the cap space we have and how we never overpay for anyone.  You obsess about Revis and how you claim to have personal knowledge of the other teams interested and then brag about Tommy Bohannon. 

    I could see you in 1996 whining....if we had just given Kotitte 3 more years to execute his Plan.....

  16. 3 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    Well if so he got 17. The reports I remember was that he was asking for 40 mil guaranteed. And he got 39. So where's the tough negotiations. They were fighting with Fitz their starting Qb over a couple of million for 7 months. And that entire time the guy was out of camp and not practicing with the team. I don't really think this was on Mac. He's too smart for this nonsense. I think it was the owner. The bottom line is he spent most of the cap money in 2015 and on one player. And in 2016 we were cash strapped. Not good planning. As for mandatory spending rules you can carry over unspent cap space if you announce it in advance. He didn't have to spend all of it in 2015.

    It's crazy how that works isn't it?  I can negotiate a better price for an old beat up used car than I can for a Ferrari.... what a novel concept!!!!  You mean I can actually take my time and wait it out with the old beat up used car but I might have to act quick with the Ferrari?   It's not a one-size fits all strategy?  I thought all GM's were supposed to treat all players equally under the law... maybe I'm confusing that with the Constitution... I don't know...

  17. 3 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    He's not my guy but Mac obviously is yours. You even look like him. No other team was going to pay Revis 17 mil per season. According to you that was Idzik's fault even though he was gone. At least acknowledge his mistakes. We'll see if the team has a turnaround in the future like the Jets did in 2014. Easy to place the blame on one person and make them the pariah. It's too easy and inaccurate. 

    Wow and apparently you look like a NY Ranger from 1940.  Crazy!  Here we go with the Revis nonsense again.. they aren't paying him $17M per season.  He is getting a guaranteed $39M over 3 years.  I guess I have to explain to you how guaranteed money works, right?  You routinely misunderstand concepts, facts and even NFL rules (like spending up to a floor) all in the name of defending your precious moron GM who will go down as the worst NFL GM in 20 years.  Time well spent on your part. 

    If you don't understand the concept of an inflated market from year to year, not sure I can help you. Revis would have come cheaper in 2014 than he would in 2015 as would all other corners of similar caliber.  It's not even debatable.

    But then again you are the lone person on the planet that thinks the Vikings got the better of the Bradford deal so we should not be surprised.

    Again, name the several Idzik pro bowl players... still waiting on this one...

  18. 14 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

    Look if Mehta and Cimini say left I'm going right. We'll see how Mac does, his first year he spent all of money and cap space Idzik saved. And it's not as easy as some of you think. Like fans could have earned that cap space. These guys are professionals and we check sites like Sportrac and don't know what we're talking about. Hopefully Mac has a good run here but will he have losing seasons. Let's hope not. 

    Mac HAD to spend that money to get up to the cap floor because your guy drooled all over himself for 2 offseasons.  And by free agency standards, he did quite well.  Being a contrarian just to be a contrarian is not sophisticated, it is just annoying.

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