Jump to content

varjet

Members
  • Posts

    8,063
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by varjet

  1. Sorry if someone posted this-

    Although I am supportive of the DB signing and think it’s a sign JD is playing for real this year, where do the Jets rank in the NFL in terms of cap space for the 5 starting OL?  It’s gotta be up there.  JD needs to find more in the mid-rounds before some players need to get paid. 

    • Upvote 2
  2. I got Edoga, Feeney and Herbig.  

    This is ok.  I would like to see more young developmental guys.  The whole plan depends on being able to keep Ross P and Hermanns on the PS.  I don't like the idea of saving roster spots for guys like Feeney and Edoga who definitely will not be here next year.

    But this was not who do I want to make the roster, this was who do I think makes the roster.  And that would be Edoga, Feeney and Herbig.  

    • Upvote 1
  3. 2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

    Would love to hear Douglas off the record explaining Becton over Wirfs. I remember his pal Dan Jermiah was all in on Becton's late rise. It never made a ton of sense. 

    Becton had the potential to play LT, the Holy Grail of Offensive Lineman.  

    Wirfs was going to play G in the NFL.

    People overlooked whether Becton was actually too big to survive the NFL, and in JD's defense, he was duped by his Combine prep, which was impressive.  I think with Covid and the old scouts, the risks were overlooked.  

    But it is clear that Wirfs was going to be a guaranteed NFL starter at a G or RT.  We drafted AVT almost as high.  JD got greedy and when for high ceiling/low floor.  I don't think he does that again. 

    • Upvote 4
  4. 1 minute ago, varjet said:
    • As we have discussed before, GMs are torn between picking the flawed player with physical skills that could put them in the HoF, as opposed to taking players they know will be effective.
      • Becton was just bad judgment all around.  JD signed Fant who could play LT.  He did not need to reach for a player with size issues and long arms to play LT, when he could have taken Wirfs.  The Draftniks were also projecting Wirfs at G-a good GM should know that he could be an All Pro T.
      • Zach Wilson was a similar reach but I think if he stays the course he will be worth it.   QBs cost big money.  If he helps install the MF system for 4 years and then moves on and is replaced with Kirk Cousins, that is fine.  The issue will be if we end up paying him Kyler Murray money to be imperfect.
      • It does seem like JD got it right with his draft this year.  Like Gettleman taking Barkley, the teams before the Jets took players with elite physicals but not great play per se.  Sauce and Wilson will contribute.  JJ2 will be decent and is a good use of a low first round pick.  But the trades for AVT and JJ2 used valuable 3rd picks that could have been used for more OL, like Brady Christensen.
    • The Jets do need more OL depth.  Becton was a gamble, but having OL6-8 be Feeney, Edoga and McDermott is not great.  Thank heavens he signed Herbig.
    • Although the trend has been higher-end RTs, many teams have used rookies, FAs, etc. at that spot and been successful.  Hopefully JD can find someone to fill that role.  He should consider use of a draft pick in a trade. 
    • Every team needs a good swing T.  For the Jets, the 2023 Swing T Plan A is Becton.  We should not be surprised by his weight in March.  Plan A LT should be a Fant extension for 2 guaranteed years.  Plan A RT should a FA or high draft pick that can move to LT when Fant moves on, or Mitchell.  Plan B swing T is Mitchell.  

     

    • As we have discussed before, GMs are torn between picking the flawed player with physical skills that could put them in the HoF, as opposed to taking players they know will be effective.
      • Becton was just bad judgment all around.  JD signed Fant who could play LT.  He did not need to reach for a player with size issues and long arms to play LT, when he could have taken Wirfs.  The Draftniks were also projecting Wirfs at G-a good GM should know that he could be an All Pro T.
      • Zach Wilson was a similar reach but I think if he stays the course he will be worth it.   QBs cost big money.  If he helps install the MF system for 4 years and then moves on and is replaced with Kirk Cousins, that is fine.  The issue will be if we end up paying him Kyler Murray money to be imperfect.
      • It does seem like JD got it right with his draft this year.  Like Gettleman taking Barkley, the teams before the Jets took players with elite physicals but not great play per se.  Sauce and Wilson will contribute.  JJ2 will be decent and is a good use of a low first round pick.  But the trades for AVT and JJ2 used valuable 3rd picks that could have been used for more OL, like Brady Christensen.
    • The Jets do need more OL depth.  Becton was a gamble, but having OL6-8 be Feeney, Edoga and McDermott is not great.  Thank heavens he signed Herbig.
    • Although the trend has been higher-end RTs, many teams have used rookies, FAs, etc. at that spot and been successful.  Hopefully JD can find someone to fill that role.  He should consider use of a draft pick in a trade.  
    • Every team needs a good swing T.  For the Jets, the 2023 Swing T Plan A is Becton.  We should not be surprised by his weight in March.  Plan A LT should be a Fant extension for 2 guaranteed years.  Plan A RT should a FA or high draft pick that can move to LT when Fant moves on, or Mitchell.  Plan B swing T is Mitchell.  
    • Upvote 1
  5. 8 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

    Rehab is very difficult. Having to go through it back to back years for an injury on the same knee with all the uncertainty of what will happen even if he does do it 100% has to be a difficult thing to get motivated for. Maybe the guaranteed money is enough motivation. Maybe it's not.

    I would seriously be questioning whether I was cut out for the NFL and if it was worth it to continue if I were him.

    He needs to weigh himself everyday.  He basically gets ZERO carbs while he rehabs.  He needs to lose weight during this process.  

    • Like 1
  6. 13 minutes ago, DonCorleone said:

    That "Big Bust" T-shirt isn't looking like such a bright idea right now.

    Does it appear that Becton looks like a real NFL athlete under that T-shirt?  Is that all good weight that he is carrying?

    The Jets PR team were morons for letting him get up there and speak.  Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. 

    • Like 1
  7. 6 minutes ago, David Harris said:

    Nfl.com

    Jets tackle Mekhi Becton's season is likely over after the tackle suffered a kneecap fracture, coach Robert Saleh told reporters Tuesday.

    The offensive lineman sustained an avulsion fracture of his right kneecap during Monday's session, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo reported, and Becton will see a surgeon Wednesday. Saleh confirmed as much, telling reporters Becton would seek a second opinion.

    The 11th-overall pick of the 2020 draft, Becton has frequently run into bad injury luck in his still-young professional career. The tackle battled through a chest injury in his rookie season, then suffered a knee injury in Week 1 of the 2021 season that sent him to injured reserve and ended his campaign after just 48 regular-season snaps.

    Becton arrived in New York as a highly touted tackle with a rare blend of incredible size and agility. His highlight tape from Louisville was filled with pancakes and examples of the 360-pound, fleet-footed blocker barreling downfield with remarkable swiftness, and his 5.1-second 40-yard dash at the 2020 NFL Scouting Combine left onlookers slack-jawed.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    He'll have started and finished 8 games out of 50.  

    He lacks internal drive and is immature.  

    Mekhi Becton's career trajectory is in the tank.  He is signed through 2023, we'll see him again but I'd say the odds are 90% that he is done as a Jet beyond that.  Super sad - one of the Jets players I've been most excited about in the past 10 years.

    His appearance and performance at the Combine was impressive, as was much of his rookie year when he played.  He looked like a real NFL player. 

    After year 1, it all seemed to fall apart, and he looked and played like a mess.  

    If I am JD I am signing 3 veteran Ts and putting Mitchell on IR while he trains his body and mind.  Let's just move on from Edoga and McDermott.    Figure out during the season what 2 Ts he is signing for 2023, plus Mitchell, plus a high draft pick.  The Franchise Tag is available for one of them and could be used.  

  8. 54 minutes ago, PS17 said:

    Was just watching the Aaron Rodgers/Pardon My Take interview. They asked him about best defensive coaches he’s gone against. He instantly said Todd Bowles. 

    We had him for 5 years.  The Jets were not good.  He elevated himself to the HC office and delegated DC to Kacy.   The few times Bowles coached the defense himself it looked great, but then Kacy came back and Bowles gave it back.  If he does the same thing in TB he will fail again.  

    • Upvote 1
  9. 1 hour ago, jetblue95 said:

     

    ekwonu is right now a guard who is struggling with pass protection in camp and is behind brady christiansen on the depth chart at LT

    We watched 100s of hours of ZW tape.  We should have drafted Brady Christensen....with a pick we sent to MN to draft AVT....

  10. As with any disaster, there are multiple contributing factors-

    1. Becton being too big to hold up in the NFL. 

    2. JD taking him anyway.

    3.  Becton not doing a good enough job staying in shape after he was picked. 

    4.  JD passing on All Pro Wirfs, the perfect RT. 

    5. The Jets bumbling medical staff who should be replaced now.  Given his size his knee should have operated on last year, particularly after it did not heal as initial forecast  

    6.  Becton opening his mouth and bringing attention to himself and his flaws. 
     

    JD has scored bonus picks for players he was able to unload.  It’s time now for him to return the favor and give up picks to put a decent OL in front of ZW so we can see what we got and not end up with another Darnold.   That is the top priority.   We don’t need guys like Rankins, Zuniga, Mims or Davis, Bryce Hall, etc if we can convert them to OT this year.  

    • Upvote 1
    • Post of the Week 1
    • It is highly unlikely an OT frees up soon.  They seldom do.  The ones that were available were the ones whose cost was prohibitive to their teams.  Reiff and Duane Brown.  Reiff found the Bears to overpay.  Watch the Jets overpay for Brown.
    • At this point, the Jets need to move on from this guy.  His salary is guaranteed through 2023, but maybe we can try him as swing T next year.  When he leaves we get a comp pick.  If he somehow turns it around, we can Franchise Tag him.
    • After he prepared for the draft and actually showed up to his rookie year camp in decent shape, Becton has allowed himself to physically deteriorate.  He has bigger problems.  Look at his father from the draft day video.  If Becton ends up like that, and he is heading in that direction, he will not live very long.  Allowing Becton to get that way is partially on the Jets.  He should not have been on a crash diet for 2 months.  
    • This is now more about Becton's life and health.  Starting tomorrow, he needs to become a healthy, lean person.  Then he can get into football shape and try and play.  If he can't show up less than 340 pounds, he should not play football.  This is a huge negative event for the Jets program.  
    • Upvote 2
  11. 25 minutes ago, choon328 said:

    The dude was pushing 400 lbs all year till about 2 months ago and he's probably only down to 370. This was bound to happen. Unless he loses 50lbs, I'm not sure how he ever gets on the field again. 

    NFL games are won and lost in large part in the off season.  

    It was lunacy to expect a guy who was grossly out of shape until June do a crash course and try and get it for late July camp.   His body was never going to adapt or get in the right conditioning.  Everything was weaker because he basically did not eat for the last 6 weeks.

    We own him on a guaranteed contract through 2023.  We might as well keep trying to fundamentally change his body and conditioning and try and use him, now as a swing T next year.  Maybe we can get a comp pick.  The Jets will never invest in his.

    But on the flip side, if we want to raise cap space by trading Corey Davis, let someone have him and play Mims.  Maybe Mims can salvage that class.  

  12. 10 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

    I love Sauce, but kept preaching take Ickey at #4. 

    Sauce was a luxury when you don’t have 2 OT locked down for the term of your rd 1 QB contract.  We don’t even have Fant locked for next year.  Looks like we need to do that. 

    • Upvote 1
  13. I would be interested in hearing from the Jets their official statement why they did this, and they obviously should have treated the women better.

    But in 2022, I don't disagree that getting rid of them was a smart business decision.  They are just a liability and unnecessary temptation.  The organization should focus on football (like the Steelers (and Giants)), and the fans can find other places to look at women.  

  14. 49 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

    I think it’s more likely he’s traded for a late round pick and the Jets roll with someone like Smith or Charles as the final WR.

    It all depends whether JD thinks there is any hope for Mims.  He will not trade him cheap to another team to have him break out and make JD, Saleh and LF look like idiots.  If he flashes he will be kept around and allowed to leave after his contract 1 for a comp pick.  There is no way they let Mims go if he has upside.  To the extent he does not play in games or specials, he is an inactive albatross, but I don't see them trading Mims unless they think he is hopeless and will not shine on another team.  I think there will be enough injuries to this relatively delicate and small WR corp to allow Mims to have substantial playing time in 2022.  

    • Upvote 1
    • Like 2
  15. 8 hours ago, Bungaman said:

    Because the pressure to cut one off another roster hasn't come yet. Wait until the final cut downs/after the last preseason game, when the difficult decisions have to be made. A vet can be added at that point, and then he still has two full weeks before the season opener to get acclimated. 

    Offensive tackles are one of the most valuable positions in the NFL.  They seldom free up.  That is why getting Moses was such a miracle last year.   Reiff was also lingering around this year, but he went for 2x as much.  The NFL realized that the Jets stole Moses last year.   

    A Jason Peters maybe the best option 

    • Upvote 1
  16. The NFL and NFLPA have a deal that is tough to manage.  

    But someone needs to change the rules here to not allow a contract to be structured to avoid a suspension.  The suspension is supposed to be the teeth here-Watson should be losing $10mm+ for not being allowed to play in 6 games.  He is not.  The NFL should find a way to fine the Browns for that and donate it to Abused Women's Groups.  

    • Upvote 1
  17. 2 hours ago, nycdan said:

    I think offering their HC money to lose games was the real driver behind forfeiting the 1st round pick more than tampering with Brady.

    Well...that would be typical NFL, because according to the report the Dolphins were only found guilty of tampering with Brady and Payton.  The Flores allegations were rejected.

  18. The better teams/coaches will basically keep Zach in the pocket and take away his deep ball.  If he has to dump it off/throw short, accurate passes, he will bounce them.  Thankfully, in the NFL only half the teams can do that or figure that out.  

    This is why MW and JF are on the roster.  If ZW is bouncing passes in games, he and we are done. 

×
×
  • Create New...