bostonmajet

Glad to hear it.

No

While I miss the early Rex years, I think last year's D was better than Fat Rex's D - at least on 3rd down. Also, Rex inherited a pretty good team with a great OL. Saleh has been coaching up players (something Rex never did, IMO). The big problem on D this year was the O couldn't score after loosing AVT and Breece and the ST forgot how to tackle. In the end, you can't play the hold the team to no points for ever and a D with a lead can play stronger than the D that is always behind or tied. If the O could score high double digits and stop the 3 and outs the D would have been dominant, IMO.

Banning posters? LOL. Most good team with a good OL have a couple of players from day 1 or 2; you can put in OL from later rounds, you just can't, IMO, have all later rounds. I wouldn't pick an OL in the top 15 - at least not this year. Pick another player, or trade down.

I would be okay drafting OL in 1st and 2nd, or 2nd and 3rd, but what if we trade away these picks for a QB? I think we should sign a good QB in FA - SF proved you don't need a start QB to make it pretty far into playoffs - a playoff game or better yet a win would be a great result next year. We also need a MLB and a FS/S. I wouldn't draft RBs in the first 2 days. Hopefully Breece comes back, but we have some decent RBs - the bigger problem with the running game, IMO, was the OL. Assuming we have a first, I would grab either a fast/big MLB if good value, or even a CB (much less need, but in 2-3 years if we want to be great..), or a tall, fast, strong WR, or I would trade down a bit and grab a C. I good/great mean C can change the personality of the entire OL - remember how Mangold and before the Mawae dominated for a long time. I would also consider trading JFM to pick up some draft capital and free up cap space to sign Q. If things go well in the 1st, and we have an extra 2nd due to trade in 1st or JFM and/or Davis trade/move up, I would be okay drafting 2 OL if we picked LB/CB in the first, or OL and LB in the second. I would also not complain about drafting some OL with potential in day three depending on the status of Max, etc. We need more depth on OL with talent and youth. Can't count on 30 year olds for much longer.

Careful, proposing drafting OL in the top half of the 1st round can get you banned

Not sure we are better than Bengals and Bills with him. Green Bay with better OC didn't break 500 in an easier division. And if you are going to trade away draft capital and cap space (which may require letting some players go), you do it for long term prominence (Rodgers is not the future), or a guaranteed SB run (or close to it); and I don't see the Jets getting past KC or Buffalo or Cincy by going with an aging QB and the inability to draft or sign other key pieces - and if we don't get to the big game, why give up on the core that JD has been building on an aging QB who hasn't been winning? Currently we have the chance to draft a few nice pieces and have enough cap (with some moves) to sign a decent QB and maybe a top tier WR or TE. I think that gives us the best chance of success.

Its a trick to get Rex to come back

2nd year guy who can't get separation and is 3rd on depth chart shouldn't be complaining about touches - and there were 3 other QBs (or more like 2) who was throwing to him - it isn't all on ZW. You put him on a team with a young Rodgers or Brady and he is still the #3 WR who can't get separation. It is bad enough that this players mouth off, but at least they should put up on field and shut up. Besides, he was complaining about his reduced utilization from last year when, wait for it, it was mostly ZW throwing to him. The biggest thing that changed from last year is that GW and Breece are here and we have almost competent TE play.

Guy looked pretty good at the end of his first season when he had a real QB coach helping out. But, hey, not having a real QB/passing coach seemed to really help out all 4 QBs - not to mention an OC who never game planned, and was as predictable as a Hckett/Shotty offense - maybe the now OC... oh hell, damn we are pretty screwed.

Please no, no, and sure. At least Jimmy G won't cost us draft capital, but the guy can't stay healthy. Putting him on a team with constant injuries seems to be giving the injury gods the middle finger. So tired of the Rodgers talk - this guy couldn't win in an easy division with a much more seasoned HC and a WR who always made the big plays; he also seemed to be so full of himself - not worth the draft capital and cap space IMO.

LOL - every thread turns into a ZW sucks - maybe we should only have one thread. As for Moore - he doesn't seem to get open; he looked like crap with 4 different QBs. I get that the Jets O was terrible last year, and he didn't have a choice on where he landed, but I am tired of his whining. Truth is, he was at best the 3rd best WR on the team. Add to the fact that Breece was more explosive as a WR and we had some almost competent play out of our TEs, what do you expect. You want to be utilized more, try getting some separation....

Jimmy G can't stay healthy....

LOL - a year too late - lost his rich wife and had a horrible season...

Bigger question - what if we trade away draft picks to get Rodgers and he just tears apart the team, sucks, just doesn't care, or worse tries really hard and we still don't make the playoffs? Then we are stuck with a 40 million/year aging QB, holes on team due to lost picks and no cap. Then we could look forward to yet another rebuild.