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  1. I was thinking the same thing, but for Cromartie; granted he would have to re-work his deal, but assuming Milliner or McDoogle can take his spot next year, he might make a good transition.

     

    Cromartie is big/tall and still pretty fast.  He doesn't jam on the line the way you would like but that isn't as important for a FS.

     

    I know that some great CBs have transitioned later in the careers into a good FS, but I imagine is is more the exception than the rule.  Easy to say, but not sure he can make the move.  It would lengthen his career a bit.

  2. The Year: 2004

    The Situation: 3rd and 5

    The call: HB Dive or HB Delay Run

    The OC: Paul "could never really" Hackett

     

     

    inside the 5 with less then a minute left in the super bowl with a great running back; call....

  3. ... and the Patriots getting a third rounder next year .( compensation for losing Revis)

     

    I am no cap/rules expert, but I believe that the Pats don't get anything for Revis.  He wasn't a UFA after his contract expired, they didn't pick up his option.  I thought that was like releasing a player as far as compensatory picks; they don't get 'credit' for losing him.

  4. A-hole costs himself 3 mill,

     

    Well he lost the guarantees, it doesn't mean that he lost the money; he would either have to leave football due to an injury or be released by the Jets for him to not get this money - at least that is the way I interpreted the tweet.

  5. since Gailey is know for adjusting the offense to the strengths of the players and Geno and Fitz are different types of players, I would imagine that they will need to go all-in on Geno until they are ready to bail.  I think someone pointed out that game 5 (after our early bye) will likely be the time to make a change unless Geno gets hurt or is completely scre...ing it up....

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  6. The question isn't as much as how he did on the interview, but Cowherd (and I am no big fan of Cowherd) basically said this is you opportunity to sell your program to recruits.  They might not listen to this interview, but Harbaugh better have better answers and be more friendly and genuine if he expects to land any top talent.  I don't care as much about the interview, but it was clear that Harbaugh couldn't carry his side of the conversation.  Maybe it was just a bad day or he wasn't into it, but damn, he better work on his interpersonal skills or leave the recruiting/closing to someone else.

  7. You should be able to use it on your own property without dealing with all that red tape.

    If Kraft/Mara/Jones was flying it over his own 'estate' and keeping away from other people's property I would agree, but they are flying it over property accessible to the public... there are safety, privacy, and other issues.

     

    Now if they were flying the drones over other stadiums to steal plays, that would be more interesting....

  8. this is exactly how a well run organization should work; young players (draftees and UDFAs) should constantly be pushing out the vets, particularly fringe vets.  we just haven't had enough depth in the past to make this happen.  the proof is in some of the scrubs that have been playing (let alone on the team).

     

    My hopes are for Cumberland (not likely) and another O-lineman.

    I love Cro, but I would like to see Milliner or McDougle push him out at some point too

  9. Unless they consider themselves contenders this year (given how much as been spent on it). In that case, making the most out of him to be keeping him for this one last season at $7M then letting him hit FA. Which I think is further unwinding as the most likely scenario.

     

    They could really use him this year, with Williams being a rookie (even if he's a good one).

     

    They don't need him long-term. Not unless Williams is a bust or unless they don't think they can lock up Richardson when the time comes.

     

    IMO you have to balance the risk that Geno is the real thing and that Williams on a line with Sheldon and with that secondary is going to struggle too much against the risk that Geno is not their guy and they will need to upgrade QB next season.

     

    Me: I think if Geno is going to be good enough than so will Williams.  I cannot see Wilkderson being our missing piece; not sure loosing him at this point will hurt the D too much while an extra 1st next year could make all of the difference.

  10. Look at it this way, if that was Marshall last year instead of Cumberland on that ill-fated pass at the end of the first half, the Jets likely win that game.  Marshall would have likely defended that pass correctly.  Assuming we score the FQ and spend more time, we are looking at a 10 point swing to end the first half.  Without that big momentum swing.  If he catches that ball (he is big, strong and knows how to use his body) and we get a TD, it is a 14 point swing.

     

    A better secondary would have helped, but what a difference that one play would have made.

  11. A couple of questions:

    1) What team out there as of now can bank on getting a high draft pick next year?

    2) If so why should they trade it if that's the case?

    3) Why should they trade this high draft pick for Mo Wilkerson on a one year contract?

     

    1) Every team over predicts how well they are going to do; I think you can find a good team that won't finish as high as they think they will.

    2) A team may be willing to trade now and 'pay later' as people want immediate gratification or are trying to fill seats and think their defense will be so much better with Wilkerson

    3) They would get 1 year at 6.7 million and the (worst case) pay tag next year (2 years) but most likely a team would do a trade only after having a deal in place (like with Tampa and Revis) - they would make a trade on the knowledge that they can work a deal and void the trade if they cannot; there are teams who are not as deep at DL and with cap who are likely to be willing to pay Wilkerson more than we are.

  12. At this point, I would have to imagine that the Jets and Wilkerson are too far apart.  Either the Jets won't pay the 11 million a year considering they have 2 players locked up for the next few years on rookie contracts, or Wilkerson is really expecting the 14 million a year contract.  Either way, I would expect that a deal isn't getting done.  I also expect that if the Jets won't pay 11 million to 14 million, they likely aren't likely going to pay the franchise tag and risk not being able to trade him.

     

    I would therefore expect the Jets to trade him either before the start of the season or wait in hopes a team has an injury or realizes they are in desperate need for him and trade him then.  I think that once the season is over, and people know their draft order, he might be more difficult to move for a good pick.  Clearly it would be nice to get a high 1st and some other conditional pick, but if you trade him to the right team (like Oakland) you may still get a high pick.  Such a team may feel that they are going to do better, but if they show up in the top 5 may not want to trade that for Wilkerson.  There is more risk for the Jets to trade him now, but that will likely have a greater reward.

     

    Consider a lucky break and get a top 10 pick for him and still have our pick (probably 12 - 20); we could bundle together to move up (with other stuff) to get our QB, or take BPA again.  Also consider what an extra 6.7 million this year and 11-14 million next year would do for our ability to sign an important player.  It is a big risk, but if you aren't likely to sign him, you might as well make the most of it.

  13. I would love to lock up Wilkerson for the long run, but if he isn't happy with a Jordan like deal, than we need to trade him if we can.

     

    There is really no reason the Jets should pay 14 million a year for him.  It is like the Revis situation all over again (except he doesn't have a history of holding out - yet).  An organization has to be reasonable in how they pay out salaries.  The Jets could pay him this year, and if necessary franchise tag him next year for about 22/23 million, why pay him 28/30 over the next 2 years?

     

    Remember he is not the most valuable player on your defense (I would say Revis still is), and he might not even be your most valuable player on the DL either.  If you pay him 14/15 a year, then in 2 years you will have to pay Sheldon that much, etc.  Are we really in an all in mode now that we want to start overpaying our players?

     

    It comes down to:

     

    1. How much the team values the player and what a reasonable deal is

    2. How much the player wants

    3. What is the player worth on a trade

    4. What kind of precedent a team wants to make about player salaries

     

    If Wilkerson wants 3/4 million a year more than what Jordan got and much more guaranteed, I don't see how the Jets can afford to pay him

  14. Here is my question.  Forget the cherry picking of different games of other QBs, and please, forget the comparison of Geno to Peyton at all.  Forget the hype, the fact the Geno has had a historical weak showing with a few good/great games in his career (btw, Peyton cut his INTs in half second year while keeping up his TDs).  Forget how bad the Jets team overall was these past few years.  Forget everything.

     

    Geno is likely to start this year.  My question is this: How many games do you give Geno before he has been given a 'fair shake'?  How many games to you give him before you can pull the plug and move on? 4 games? 1 year?

     

    If the Jets suck this year, or win despite Geno, will that be enough?

     

    The reason I ask is this, if Geno turns it around and plays great this year, most people on this site will rejoice and those who questioned Geno or thought he sucked will be happy.  If Geno gets another year and sucks, will those claiming that Geno hasn't had enough time to be given a fair shake?

     

    It seems to me that Geno still has time to prove himself, but at some point you need to move on.  So I ask the Geno defenders, what is a fair amount of time?  Because I don't think it is fair for the franchise, players or fans for him to get an unlimited amount of time to improve.

  15. No team is going to invest 4-5 years on a guy (unless they are desperate).  If Geno continues to struggle (trying to be kind) he is done after this year.  The Jets will find a way to move on (it may require trading Wilk and other drastic measures, but they will move on).

     

    Geno is now in the best possible position to succeed.  He has upgraded weapons, and a dramatically better defense (at least on paper).  No point talking would'a could'a should'a anymore.

     

    He is the 'starter' on a team with a backup QB recovering from a broken leg.  If he can't shine now and he can't win and keep the starting job, he will likely never succeed as a starting in the NFL.  Being in the best position to succeed is the opposite of getting a raw deal.  He can show the nay-sayers and quiet the critics.  All he has to do is succeed.

     

    big-arm, athletic, etc.  It is all good, but in the end he has to win.  If he can't he will be gone, and not because he got a raw deal.  Just my opinion

  16. I don't think it matters about what kind of 'deal' he is getting in the media or from the fans.  The truth is, he is going into his 3rd season after very poor overall showings in his first 2 years as the guy whose job it is to 'loose'.

     

    Getting a raw deal is getting cut without the chance to compete.  Or, playing poorly on poor teams only to have the team sign a likely starter.  Or, getting pounded by your new coaching staff as being terrible.  Or being benched in favor of Johnny Football in an effort to sell tickets.

     

    Would Geno have been better off if Sanchez hadn't gotten hurt in his rookie year, so he didn't have to start?  Probably.  But now he goes into his 3rd year on a team with a defense that looks unstoppable with upgrades at WR and OL with a weak schedule.  He is also the 'favorite' to start with the only real competition coming from a backup QB recovering from a broken leg.  If your goal is to be a starting QB and you have had a lackluster first 2 years, this is probably the ideal situation to be in.  So, not so sure he is getting a bad deal.  He will have plenty of opportunities to prove the nah-sayers wrong.  I also don't think the fans and the media have as much influence as you give them credit for.

  17. So Marshall gets like a 10% raise and this year's salary guaranteed (which I think he gets once he is on the roster first week of the season - correct me if i am wrong).

     

    I bet if Wilk said give me a 10% raise and guarantee next year's salary and we would have a deal.  Wilks deal is more complicated; also, Jets have the leverage; also, we don't know what Wilk is asking for.

     

    I will also say that Marshall dramatically improves our WR group and is our #1.  Not sure considering the depth you can say the same about Wilkerson.

     

    I hope Wilkerson retires a Jet, but you have to run the CAP like a business; be patient and get value.  You want to treat your players fairly, but you have to have reasonable contracts; remember Sheldon is up in a year or 2; can't have the players thinking they can bully the GM (not saying this is what Wilk is doing).  I still expect a deal to be done. (at least I hope so).

  18. Kind of interesting that Heaps has made it through 2 hurdles so far. He was signed as a tryout and now Simms is released ahead of him which implies they at least see something in Heaps. Wouldn't that be a headline: "UDFA to get nod at QB for Jets". Hey, it has happened before.

     

    I don't know if it has anything to do with Heaps (other than he is PS eligible).  I would imagine this was the plan from the start.  Petty was getting the #3; since they moved up (1 spot) to draft him it is clear that the Jets have faith in him and that they perceived interest.  He would also have to be released to be added to the practice squad, and surely someone would snap him up as a #3.

     

    That leaves Simms as only training camp fodder; and why not go with your own guy who, if you like him, can go on your practice squad?

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  19. Aaron Rogers and Russel Wilson for a start.

     

    We have never had a fair QB competition here.  In every case the outcome was rigged in favor of the QB who the GM wanted.  Every time it looks like we are finally going to get one then the chorus of a$$holes step forward to whine loudly in support of the notion that QB competitions are bad.

     

    The only reason we want a QB competition is that there is no real decisive winner.  Lot's of teams don't have QB competition.  Teams like Pats, Saints, Broncos, Colts, etc.  Even teams with the second tier QBs like Miami don't have QB competition.

     

    We have a QB that ranked at the bottom of the league in pretty much every measure for the past 2 years, a guy who failed to live up to a big contract and had become a career backup with a broken leg, a guy who was released by the Jets and not picked up by anybody, I guy who is raw and 1 to 2 years away from even competing and a guy so unknown that the HC didn't even refer to him until the 4th time he was discussing reps.

     

    Let's face it, if we had Aaron Roger or Russell Wilson here we wouldn't be talking about QB competition, we would be talking super bowl (okay prematurely).

  20. I seemed to remeber that Chan had said that it was unlikely that Geno would loose the job in training camp and that he would probably be the day 1 starter (after being forced to give a guess).  That is completely different than a guarantee.  I seemed to remember that Seattle thought that they know who the starter was going to be before Wilson was lights out.

     

    I would imagine Chan would prefer to know what QB will be starting sooner than later (as he supposedly customizes his offense to the players), but if Fitz is healthy and Geno stinks up the joint, I would imagine that Fitz will start.  Or, if Geno starts and stinks up the the joint, he will likely sit.

     

    I think there was a large amount of overreacting from the fans and mostly the media (who love controversy btw).

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  21. There were plenty of opportunities for the Jets to secure another QB or QBs to replace Geno or for a legitimate competition.

     

    But they chose not to do that. They decided to go all in on Geno. Shouldn't you at least give them the benefit of the doubt that they truly do see something in Geno, and that he is not just the default starter and actually as a Jets fan be a little excited to see what he can do for a good coaching staff, with a team that also seems to be very behind him?

     

    I am not sure there were plenty of opportunities to upgrade.  Maybe, but it isn't like either of the QBs in this draft fell to them; rumor is that the Jets explored trading up to get one, but if the Chip couldn't trade up and he had such a hard on for him, then it sounds like it was too expensive.  The could have traded Mo to the Raiders for next year's number 1 hoping they would be in the top 5 again, but who would have gone for that?  Sam Bradford? Eagles had Foles to trade; Foles? Rams had Bradford to trade.  Should we have traded our #2 for some other team's backup?

     

    It wasn't like Manning was released for the highest bidder to pick up.  Cutler? would the Bears really trade him? would we want him? what was the cost?  We don't know what we tried to do and how we rated 'available' QBs and what the cost was.

     

    There are only so many top QBs; What team is going to be willing to get rid of a top 10/top 15 QB?  What would the price have been.  I think they did a great job in the off-season filling holes, but how much can one team do in one season? How much is too much to trade on another question mark at QB?  Maybe Petty will be able to compete next year; maybe a good QB drops to us next year; I am not happy with Geno, but sometimes the best you can do is all you can do.

     

    The real problem is that this defense (and to a certain point this offense) is too good for us to get a top 10 pick next year (I would assume), so next year we will have the same problem as this year.  We can only hope for the best.

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