greengeek

Maybe they started ranking on the number of times you had to punt per game. Why are we not then #1? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

I guess that I’m having a hard time understanding many of the arguments here and I would like some help. The obvious argument is that if we had drafted DW when we had the chance it would have been better. Of course this is true, but it is not where we are. How does this direct our next decision? I guess this is just rolling in misery (a favorite pastime of Jet fans). Another argument is that we need to have the other parts of the team first. As a young player (25), he won’t retire soon and so why is the ORDER of hires so critical? The value of your draft capital is a different argument than the order. Speaking of value of draft capital, it is entirely clear that if you hit on every draft pick every year you would have such a crazy wonderful team that you would almost never hire a FA. This is not the real world. In the real world, you have a mix of drafted and FA pickups and you pay an extra premium for the knowledge of how they play at the NFL level. The more important the position and the more talented the player, the greater premium. Does the “draft capital is most valuable” argument really make most FA acquisitions wrong? Many judge the trade details of JA in order to stipulate what would be the likely cost for DW. This requires us to believe that all trades are equitable (both sides got even value). Do we really believe that? Based upon many examples (especially JA) it seems the opposite may be true. My reading of the situation is that we have placed ourselves in the enviable position of having lots of draft capital, lots of cap space, and a new coach who is getting high praise even from non-Jets fans. I believe that JD should work his ass off to get a deal for DW that is effectively JA plus a bit extra. I trust him to not offer the entire farm. If he can get a reasonable deal then we change the “right” order and build around the FQB rather than build for a future FQB. To me the “JA plus a bit” feels like the “bit” is our penalty for having not drafted Watson when we had a chance. Most of the definitions of this “bit” tossed around here don’t seem extravagant put up against the quality of the player. Do we really look only at Win/Loss to evaluate a QB? Isn’t it true that the points scored by the Texans this year were typical or better than their winning seasons and that the points allowed by their defense were horrid? How then is the win/loss placed entirely on Watson? Personally, I doubt DW shoots his way out of Houston, but we should try our best to make sure that if he does he comes out wearing green. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

The best analogy I gave for this coach hire is when a kid is learning to drive. If you’re near the left edge of the lane steer hard right. If you’re on the right side, steer hard left. Both are mistakes. The correct action is to steer toward the lane far ahead and not the dashed line immediately to your left or right. Eisen’s summary is spot on that we’ve suffered through decades of reactionary hires based on where we are rather than where we’re going. Several indicators point toward a longer term vision coming from our front office presently. First JD is on a pretty long term contract for a first time GM. While none of us know how the deal was reached it is plausible that this reflects a mindset focused on the longer term. The recent choices in free agency seem to reflect longer term vision as we’ve not tied up huge fractions of money on players and have significant number of positions locked in. Third, the recent fire sale indicates that we’re more focused on an unrestricted path forward than on where we are now. The result of all this is that we have tremendous flexibility in choosing our direction because we’re untethered from where we are now as the driving concern. The simple fact the we pulled a coach from the defense side of the game indicates that we’re not being completely driven by where we are. While the front office mindset must remain pure speculation on the part of us fans, we can demonstrate that the known facts taken as a whole are consistent with what one would expect from a stable well-run organization with a clear long term vision. THAT is why the coach hire makes me excited: it appears by all measures to be the logical step for a well run organization. This makes it very different from the most recent coaching hires. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

I noticed that. The other coaches and the players actually talk to this guy and he talks back. Gase had an impenetrable reality distortion field. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

I was kidding. I live in Cutchogue. Even if I did leave now it would be too late. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

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Thanks CB. Very informative discussion. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Indeed. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Suppose you didn’t know our record and read these stats? Would you guess this was a two win team? Good stats from OL, many WR, RB, DL, DB. What are we missing? QB and coaching. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

My belief is that Jets fans spent a lot of time pre-disposed to like Darnold more than he earned. When you’re close to a person you give them the benefit of the doubt. For this reason, I believe that so long as we hire outside the organization (basically a given), the new HC will like Darnold less than JD does. We have the #2 spot, at least two good looking prospects at QB. It seems very unlikely to me that we pay Darnold big bucks on the chance this his performance really is the fault of everyone but himself. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Ummm...you know that he got one more play and it was a completion, right? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Qns: Do you believe you should be brought back? Ans: I’ll talk with Chris later. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Gase shaved. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

In his presser. Reporters having trouble thinking of questions since their articles will all be about firing him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app

Does it have to be an integer? I vote 0.5 Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app