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  1. D - HC, team seems unprepared and uninspired in to many games and that is a bad look for a young tea that should be inspired by a HC that is essentially a cheerleader type... you know "AGNB" mantra. C-JD, because 2020 draft class maybe a bust (waiting on QW, Mims, ... 2021 looks better but next draft and FA he better nail it or the pitch forks will be out. JW - no and I wouldn't have drafted him to begin with. There are a lot of QB with good arms but fail to execute... until he becomes consistent and can execute the O, I am in the white camp. QW - w/o a doubt he is headed for bust territory GF - he steped in and has done a good job.
  2. didn't their D just give up 30+ points to the browns.... Oh btw, wasn't it 30+-10 in the 3rd Qrt? Just a thought, garbage time has a habit of making bad team look competent at times...
  3. According to the HC it hasn't so my concern is Wilson.... we'll see.
  4. SOJ

    Ulbrich

    hate to tell you but he grated out better then others on PFF..
  5. In White, I saw a guy that had confidence, knew the O, where to get the ball too and on time in the majority of throws. These are traits I have yet to see with Wilson... doesn't mean he can not develop them but I would sit him for the remainder of the year and let him watch and hopefully learn. Then next OTA/PS let them battle it out and best man win.
  6. Thanks but after 54 years, I didn't need the reminders... Why do you think my moniker is SOJ... different players, different FO, different CS but same results... Irrespective of some posters thinking the JD tear down is the right thing, they have not change the losing SOJ culture at all... and the platitudes and placebos espoused by this used car salesman HC is just that. here is a thought, try getting the team ready to play, you know like be competitive even if you don't win, if that is in your vernacular or capabilities.
  7. His record is almost exactly the same as AG 1st 6 games. his team is unprepared, continues to make the same stupid missed assignments and they LOSE. just reminding you he is a losing HC to date and contrary to what you think, state any facts you can that justifies your comments.
  8. Your leader of men is 1-5 and his CS, that he selected, is inept and are as incompetent as AG CS was. To be perfectly honest, they have actually brought ineptitude to new heights not seen since that great leader of men Rich Kotite. Finally, before you cast aspersions about the board's posters you may want to consider where your posting, how the sardonic comments are more accurate but funny... It seems to me, people who express race or gender discrimination are usually the ones who are the most biases. have a nice day...
  9. The article could be baloney, partly true or untrue. Does it matter? All I care about is winning. That being said, I have very little, maybe no, faith that this HC and CS can right the ship. After 54 years watching this team, I think I have seen it all... then as usual reality has a way of waking you up from your dream (competitive team, well coached, and winning). For me, It positively disconcerting to see the level of dysfunction we have witness to date. Having, said that, there are things contained in the article that this board and others, I might add, have exposed as issues that have plagued this team for I don't know at least 45 years I been watching. So while I will always be a fan, a few years back I start watching the Packers because at least they are competitive, well coached, and winning.
  10. If this doesn't convince JET fans that this HC and CS are bad nothing will. Thank you for posting this.
  11. here is the other side of the coin: Joe Douglas is in the third year of his honeymoon with the Jets as their general manager. The Jets record on his watch is 10-28, with the team having been outscored 991-599 in that span. The Jets were actually respectable (for them) record-wise in 2019, going 7-9. In 2020, Douglas’ first full year as GM, they went 2-14 and they’re 1-5 this season. For those of you scoring at home, that’s 3-19 since 2020, with the team having been outscored 632-323. Maybe you can embrace this new found era, but gotta tell you seem like its the same record being played again,. Btw, when was the last time a Jet team gave up 50 pts? 1995 under RK. ny 2 cents. NY Post sports...
  12. I posted this else where so all of you can read it: Robert Saleh’s New York Jets are on a historically bad pace With their gruesome 54-13 loss to the New England Patriots in Week 7, Robert Saleh and the New York Jets have fallen to 1-5. A 1-5 record is bad enough in itself, but the team’s overall performance level independent of the win-loss record puts them on track to become one of the worst teams – if not the worst team – in Jets history. Yes, even worse than Adam Gase’s squads. Let’s stack up the 2021 Jets against Gase’s 2019-20 Jets and some of the other brutal teams in Jets history. Season-long pace The Jets currently own a scoring margin of -95. They are scoring 13.3 points per game (32nd) and allowing 29.2 points per game (29th) for an average scoring margin of -15.8. If maintained, that would be the worst mark in the history of the New York Jets. Here are the worst teams in franchise history based on their average scoring margin at the end of the season: 1. 2021 (-15.8) 2. 1976 (-15.3) 3. 2020 (-13.4) 4. 1975 (-12.5) 5. 1996 (-10.9) 6. 1963 (-10.7) 7. 1962 (-10.4) 8. 1989 (-9.9) 9. 1995 (-9.4) 10. 2016 (-8.4) We’re only six games in, so the Jets have 11 games to pull themselves out of the franchise’s all-time basement, but the sad fact of the matter is that the Jets very well could finish the season in this spot if they do not start playing a substantially better quality of football. The Jets’ numbers in non-scoring categories indicate that their scoring margin is not a fluke based on their performance to this point. They are currently ranked 31st in total offense and 27th in total defense. If those rankings are maintained, they would become the first team in franchise history (since moving to the NFL in 1970) to rank bottom-six in both categories. Saleh’s 2021 Jets have been out-gained by 130.2 yards per game this season. Not only is that the worst mark in the NFL this season, but it would be the worst in the history of the Jets as well: 1. 2021 (-130.2) 2. 1963 (-118.3) 3. 2020 (-107.6) 4. 1976 (-99.0) 5. 1975 (-87.6) 6. 2018 (-81.2) 7. 1971 (-77.9) 8. 1964 (-73.7) 9. 1977 (-73.4) 10. 1989 (-61.4) Yikes. Even before the New England debacle (551-to-299 yardage edge for the Patriots), the Jets had an average yardage margin of -105.8 over their first five games, which would put them on pace for the third-worst mark in franchise history. Six-game start The Jets’ six-game start in 2021 is up there as one of the worst that the franchise has ever experienced, comparing closely to Gase’s 2019 and 2020 teams. Here is a look at the worst yardage differentials through six games in Jets history: 1. 1963 (-873) 2. 2019 (-859) 3. 2021 (-781) 4. 2002 (-720) 5. 1976 (-687) 6. 1971 (-662) 7. 2020 (-613) 8. 2001 (-607) 9. 2007 (-571) 10. 2006 (-463) Here is a look at the worst point differentials through six games in Jets history: 1. 1976 (-122) 2. 2020 (-110) 3. 2021 (-95) 4. 1962 (-94) 5. 2019 (-93) 6. 1996 (-91) 7. 1995 (-90) 8. 2002 (-74) 9. 2016 (-69) 10. 2014 (-62) We are witnessing perhaps the most embarrassing era in Jets history. The 2019, 2020, and 2021 seasons represent three of the five worst six-game starts in franchise history based on point differential. The Jets are a young, rebuilding team, but that is no excuse for the level of ineptitude that has been show
  13. maybe you and the ones who posted the trophy's should read this and then get back to me... https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/10/25/robert-saleh-adam-gase-jets/ Robert Saleh's 2021 New York Jets squad looks frighteningly similar to Adam Gase's 2019 and 2020 Jets teams. Robert Saleh’s New York Jets are on a historically bad pace With their gruesome 54-13 loss to the New England Patriots in Week 7, Robert Saleh and the New York Jets have fallen to 1-5. A 1-5 record is bad enough in itself, but the team’s overall performance level independent of the win-loss record puts them on track to become one of the worst teams – if not the worst team – in Jets history. Yes, even worse than Adam Gase’s squads. Let’s stack up the 2021 Jets against Gase’s 2019-20 Jets and some of the other brutal teams in Jets history. Season-long pace The Jets currently own a scoring margin of -95. They are scoring 13.3 points per game (32nd) and allowing 29.2 points per game (29th) for an average scoring margin of -15.8. If maintained, that would be the worst mark in the history of the New York Jets. Here are the worst teams in franchise history based on their average scoring margin at the end of the season: 1. 2021 (-15.8) 2. 1976 (-15.3) 3. 2020 (-13.4) 4. 1975 (-12.5) 5. 1996 (-10.9) 6. 1963 (-10.7) 7. 1962 (-10.4) 8. 1989 (-9.9) 9. 1995 (-9.4) 10. 2016 (-8.4) We’re only six games in, so the Jets have 11 games to pull themselves out of the franchise’s all-time basement, but the sad fact of the matter is that the Jets very well could finish the season in this spot if they do not start playing a substantially better quality of football. The Jets’ numbers in non-scoring categories indicate that their scoring margin is not a fluke based on their performance to this point. They are currently ranked 31st in total offense and 27th in total defense. If those rankings are maintained, they would become the first team in franchise history (since moving to the NFL in 1970) to rank bottom-six in both categories. Saleh’s 2021 Jets have been out-gained by 130.2 yards per game this season. Not only is that the worst mark in the NFL this season, but it would be the worst in the history of the Jets as well: 1. 2021 (-130.2) 2. 1963 (-118.3) 3. 2020 (-107.6) 4. 1976 (-99.0) 5. 1975 (-87.6) 6. 2018 (-81.2) 7. 1971 (-77.9) 8. 1964 (-73.7) 9. 1977 (-73.4) 10. 1989 (-61.4) Yikes. Even before the New England debacle (551-to-299 yardage edge for the Patriots), the Jets had an average yardage margin of -105.8 over their first five games, which would put them on pace for the third-worst mark in franchise history. Six-game start The Jets’ six-game start in 2021 is up there as one of the worst that the franchise has ever experienced, comparing closely to Gase’s 2019 and 2020 teams. Here is a look at the worst yardage differentials through six games in Jets history: 1. 1963 (-873) 2. 2019 (-859) 3. 2021 (-781) 4. 2002 (-720) 5. 1976 (-687) 6. 1971 (-662) 7. 2020 (-613) 8. 2001 (-607) 9. 2007 (-571) 10. 2006 (-463) Here is a look at the worst point differentials through six games in Jets history: 1. 1976 (-122) 2. 2020 (-110) 3. 2021 (-95) 4. 1962 (-94) 5. 2019 (-93) 6. 1996 (-91) 7. 1995 (-90) 8. 2002 (-74) 9. 2016 (-69) 10. 2014 (-62) We are witnessing perhaps the most embarrassing era in Jets history. The 2019, 2020, and 2021 seasons represent three of the five worst six-game starts in franchise history based on point differential. The Jets are a young, rebuilding team, but that is no excuse for the level of ineptitude that has been show Maybe just maybe some of us that seem to know or sense that this HC and CS are bad are right. Just saying...
  14. Well by you account there should be some progress, right? I see is a team that is a shell of what it was during the 1st game and the Titian game. Frankly, the team is regressing and may have hit rock bottom yesterday but I seriously doubt that with Cinn and then Indy coming in the next two weeks. I have no trust, that has to be earned, that this CS as presently constituted has the capacity to correct the dysfunction that they helped create. Stay the course but this is what I think of the HC: I stop listening to the HC pressers weeks ago when the same excuses were used for another bad performance. IMHO, an I wanted him; however, he is fast, as in very fast, becoming the latest example of JET coaches who fit the mold of "Peter's Principle."
  15. and what is his WOW record? Right now, he is a loser QB, period. That may change and I hope it does but for now, he is not good.
  16. I stop listening to the HC pressers weeks ago when the same excuses were used for another bad performance. IMHO, an I wanted him, he is fast, as in very fast, becoming the latest example of coaches who fit the mold of "Peter's Principle."
  17. But,,, he is a adult that took the knowingly took the job. He is what his record says he is, a bad "losing" coach. Also, another poster posted this on another forum: The effort was disgusting. I don't want to hear anything about rebuilds or young coaching staff or anything of the like. The team looks simply uninterested in playing. Not to mention, they look shocked every time there's a running back flare out or screen against a rookie quarterback that throws the ball 5 yards down field every play.
  18. Fk this sh*t show... I never ever thought I would say this but this team looks like it regressed from AG team... The CS is inept as are the players.... Thank God I have DTV and am watching other games with REAL PROFESSIONALLY COACHED TEAMS and players capable of executing. JD is responsible for this mess and should be held accountable...
  19. what is it with these coaches. Your scheme based on the personnel is not working as designed. Get it! Adjust the scheme to what fits with the skill set of your players... it is that simple. Carolina is going through the same dam thing with their OC... Both of these guys seem to think that better execution will fix everything - and to an extent it will but you need the horses - yet fail to recognize the limitations of their players. If I made the mistake of hiring either of these guys I would have set the expectations up front, i..e, I want to be a quick passing team that uses PA for longer chunk plays, or I want to be a physical run team, etc. When they failed to deliver, I would have pulled them aside and clearly stated that what they are doing is not working and they need to adjust... if they did not, I would fire them. This is how I managed 300mm business... no BS, no excuses, perform of get out! What we have with both teams is NO O identity, period, and that falls squarely on the HC who should have defined it and seems to have deferred it to their OCs... So maybe it not just our OC or theirs it maybe a problem with the HC....
  20. It already is... ST*U and get the team ready to play competitive FB for 60 minutes and maybe just maybe, you'll win a few games.
  21. So we maybe 1-4 but dam, they seems to be in worse shape then us right now anyway.
  22. This is not an excuse for SAM.... If you took the time to do some research, you would know that the Owner influenced this change. During the Game his former WR Smith and he were talking about getting away form the run so often in the last few games where it was successful and becoming pass happy. Its on their forum... Also, the OPC is predicable and has been all season where the same plays are use from week to week and to boot the OC admitted he doesn't make any in game adjustments - his comment was, "its all about execution," essentially throwing his players under even n though opposing DC have figured out how he tries to attack them. Finally, their D just game up - get this - 1000+ yards of O in the last two games they lost... that right 1000 yards... to top it off, theie OL is as bad if not worse then ours was last year
  23. If anyone watched that game you saw #11 get targeted at least 6 times into the 3rd Qrt and he dropped three. I think he caught two passes, one being the last CP TD. Other RB and WR also dropped balls in the hands and the announcer kept repeating how they are dropping balls. Furthermore, the announcer kept stating how the WR were covered and there was NO dump off for the QB to go to... Or maybe the fact the the OL gives up pressure at a rate of 50% drop backs *that is an accurate state) and in this game it looked a lot like last years Jets OL.... they stink to high heaven. Conversely Sam did throw and INT and fumbled when being sacked but didn't he lead a 94 yard drive to tie the game with not one but two 4th down passes? Just saying, Sam isn't perfect and may never be but he brought the team back against Dallas and again today but lost in OT today... I'll ask all the SAM haters, WTF has our CS and this team done that is anywhere near what the CP have accomplished with our castoff.
  24. For a second there I thought you were talking about SAM, sigh.
  25. Great post! Couldn't agree more... and like sar1 says, they guy been playing ball since he was 5 so like not make excuses for SAM type mechanics, throws behind, below, etc. if they sucked with SAM they suck with this guy... BTW... What the hell is our HC doing to fix this? Just saying... oh I know, give them time, the scheme is fine, the PC is fine, etc.
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