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  1. 3 minutes ago, kmnj said:

    so even though mac and co say the team is not in tank mode-we know they are- will you go to the games this  year? Since this is a total re build it is in our best interest to loose every game. Can you go to a game cheer them on knowing each time they win it sets back the franchise even further?   If not for spending time with my father , I would have just walked away from it all this year but the 40 years of attending games together makes it very tough to do.


    Are you an English Major ?

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  2. 2 hours ago, Clementi49 said:

    Didn't we all want our organization to be more like the Patriots??? Didn't we all want better leadership at the top??? Woody to let the football people do their jobs ???

    Everything every Jet fan wanted is happening organizationally. 

    You can't say you want our organization to make sound football decisions, but then get all pissy eyed when they let a fan favorite go. 


    1) You are getting a total rebuild

    2) probably going to have 100 mil in cap space 

    3) probably going to have a top 5 pick and fighting for #1

    4) we already have a few young players with potential. Some more then others 

    5) Two young QBs to evaluate this year


    you can't be upset the first year GM had this nucleus and almost made the playoffs with it and so he tried one more year. It failed. He gutted it to the original plan. That one year with Fitz was actually pretty fun. Zero expectations. Kind of like this year. Take your licks this year as a fan, listen to your buddies make fun of your, and just get over the fact a sports team didn't set up a team exactly like you thought it should be. Last time I checked anytime anyone gets fired at work it's not a good time. By the way, the Patriots don't keep fan favorites and they are the class of the league  

    So sit back, make those PSL installment payments and just have fun with the year. 


    We are more like the Patriots today with the moves we made yesterday then we were in years prior...

    I didn't want my team broken down to this mess of no names . I'll bet you don't buy season tickets , Mr We Wanted This .

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  3. On 6/4/2017 at 11:36 AM, Gas2No99 said:

    New York Jets: The 4 Keys in Showcasing a Legit, Tenacious Defense

    By Robby Sabo - 06/04/2017

    There is, in fact, a way the New York Jets can boast a nasty defense in 2017. Here’s the formula for Todd Bowles and his boys.

    By now, you’re sick and tired of it all.

    • The 2017 New York Jets currently own the worst personnel in all of the NFL.
    • The Jets would be lucky to win three games in 2017.
    • This season is all about sucking for Sam, Sam Darnold, that is.

    Blah, blah, ladi-freaking dah.

    Enough, already.

    Jets fans have heard it all. Even during the hottest offseasons, they have to endure disappointing regular seasons. So, at this point, what’s the difference? An offseason is an offseason.

    What most so-called experts and NFL insiders fail to fully grasp and bring to the forefront when discussing the 2017 New York Jets is that this is still football.

    In football, locker rooms rule the roost. In football, as opposed to other sports, there are only 16 games. This means two early season wins can literally change a team’s fortunes for the long-haul. Players, coaches and everybody involved suddenly believe their club is better than it actually is. Momentum can carry a football team a long way and beliefin one’s self becomes more valuable than actual talent.

    Considering this line of thought, this Jets defense can boast a dominant form if a few things broke right.

    Here are the four critical keys that’ll allow Todd Bowles to field a legitimate and tenacious defense in 2017:

    New York Jets: The 4 Keys in Showcasing a Legit, Tenacious Defense Jets  USATSI_9753419-640x426
    Dec 17, 2016; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Jets cornerback Juston Burris (32) intercepts a pass from Miami Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore (not pictured) in the third quarter and is tackled by Dolphins wide receiver Jarvis Landry (14) at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Dennis Schneidler-USA TODAY Sports

    1. Juston Burris Must Come of Age:)

    Morris Claiborne is, at the moment, the Jets No. 1 cornerback. This is not a good thing. Nothing against Claiborne, but he’s simply not No. 1 material.

    Corner is the unit’s worst position on paper.

    The one true wild card comes in the form of second-year kid Juston Burris.

    Burris, a fourth-round selection a year ago, started just one game a season ago and is equipped with every raw ability that a personnel decision-maker wants to see. Should he come of age this August, he’d kick Buster Skrine to the nickel spot, the position he needs to be in order to succeed at the highest level.

    Other options for surprises at the position are Bryson Keeton and the two rookies, Jeremy Clark and Derrick Jones. We already know what Marcus Williams is: a No. 4 or 5 guy.

    2. Darron Lee Must Take the Headset

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    Oct 17, 2016; Glendale, AZ, USA; New York Jets linebacker Darron Lee (50) against the Arizona Cardinals at University of Phoenix Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

    David Harris can absolutely still start in the base look and flourish in the run game. Even at 33-years of age, he can thump with the best of them.

    When offenses move to three and four wideout looks, however, the man simply needs to get off the field.

    Harris is a horrid pass defender and as slow at it comes at the position. Why Todd Bowles continued to throw his nickel look (both ILBs on the field) against three WR with a speedy TE look a year ago, we still don’t know.

    What we know now is that Darron Lee needs to assume the headset of the defense, allowing Bowles’ confidence in the kid to soar in all packages. (For those who aren’t aware, one defender is designated as the man who can carry the headset, similarly to the quarterback on offense.)

    Rather than Lee coming off and Harris remaining on the field in heavy pass looks, it needs to be Lee who stays on in all situations and the man who becomes the every down captain.

    We understand Lee struggled during his rookie season. Pro Football Focus graded him out as one of the worst inside backers in the league. It’s exactly why Lee’s second-year prowess must come to fruition.

    If it happens, suddenly Tom Brady won’t be able to feast on his tight ends and running backs every single time he faces the Jets. If it happens, New York grabs that extra key in boasting a nasty unit.

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    May 5, 2017; Florham Park, NJ, USA; New York Jets linebacker Dylan Donahue answers question from media during Jets rookie mini camp at Atlantic Health Training Center. Mandatory Credit: Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports

    3. An Edge Presence Must Show Face

    It’s the curse of John Abraham. Not since No. 94 (and No. 56) left the organization, have the Jets showcased an excellent edge rusher. It’s been 12 seasons now (2005).:(

    The candidates in 2017 are many:

    The question remains, can any of them at least perform at an admirable level?

    4. Sheldon Richardson Cannot Be Played Out of Position

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    Oct 30, 2016; Cleveland, OH, USA; New York Jets defensive end Sheldon Richardson (91) during the second half against the Cleveland Browns at FirstEnergy Stadium. The Jets won 31-28. Mandatory Credit: Scott R. Galvin-USA TODAY Sports

    The number three and number four key go hand-in-hand. Why? Well, because Sheldon Richardson has been yo-yo’d back and forth from his regular interior spot to an edge spot far too often.

    With Muhammad Wilkerson and Leonard Williams manning the two 3-4 DE spots, the Jets have looked to place Sheldon completely out of position at an edge 3-4 OLB.

    It’s failed miserably and the early talks have the defensive coaches leaving Richardson at his natural position this summer.

    It’s the only way. It doesn’t even matter if one of the three has to remain on the sideline every play. It must be this way.

    A 300-plus pound man trying to play a 250-plus position is absolute insanity.

    When the three are on the field together, there isn’t enough speed along the edge. Defensive integrity breaks down and other players look to make up for it, hurting their own development along the way.

    Final Thoughts

    Admittedly, of these four keys, two or three of them are far-fetched. :lol:This is just part of the reason many believe New York’s personnel is the weakest in the land.

    But no mistake about it, this is football. Crazier things than these Jets coming out of nowhere to win 8-10 games have happened. Just reference the 2006 season, for one example.


  4. 9 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:


    If the team is willing to cut ties with proven wideouts such as Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker, it's worth wondering why the front office operatives would explore the possibility of coaxing another wide receiver out of retirement.

    The Jets contacted former Panthers and Ravens star Steve Smith about playing in 2017, NFL Network's Kimberly Jones reported on Tuesday's edition of Inside Minicamp Live.

    "Earlier today in the green room, Steve Smith Sr. was saying 'Hey, the Jets reached out to me,'" Jones explained. "Yes, the Jets reached out to Steve Smith, asked if he was still interested in playing. He indicated he wasn't."

    We would suggest chalking this up to a case of Gang Green simply performing due diligence, updating the Steve Smith file to gauge his resolve in walking away from football with a year or two still left in the tank.

    It would make little sense for the Jets to cut Marshall and Decker only to turn around and sign the game's oldest receiver. It would make even less sense for Smith to unretire for the opportunity to join an organization ostensibly punting the 2017 season.


  5. 12 hours ago, Stark said:

    To even have McCown on the team. It's time cut his old, worthless as$ now while you are cutting other veterans. Let Petty and Hack get all the reps. There is no sense in keeping a bad veteran QB when you are going with a, full on, youth movement. 

    Cut him Mac, or release him - not a player we need. 




  6. 11 hours ago, kmnj said:

    so after I ponied up thousands of dollars on my seasons tickets(own multiple psls) the jets are in full rebuild mode-as a fan of over 40 years(been going since I was 4 at shea) I would feel MUCH better if the rebuild takes place with a new coach and a new gm-hope the current regime is shown the door at seasons end.

    Woody use all of the money you are saving but cutting everybody and his cousin and pay a PROVEN winner at GM a boatload of money(if you pay them they will come)

    Lastly I suggest reducing food and beer prices 75% if you want anybody in the stands







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  7. 1 hour ago, SenorGato said:

    It took several attempts this year, but this is the one you should go with. Very biting, probably feels like losing the WS at home. 

    Go back to your cubbie-hole in the Chicago backwoods 

  8. 12 hours ago, SenorGato said:

    BTW the whole "Mets should trade for Votto" thing does not work without also ponying up for Raisel Iglesias, a badass reliever.

    Crawl back in your foxhole .

  9. On 6/4/2017 at 0:26 PM, RutgersJetFan said:

    I would literally pay money to have Mr. Met and Mrs. Met both flick me off at the same time. 

    I think that's called a Baseball fetish .

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