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  1. It also gets us ahead of any run of the top OL. Lots of needy teams in front of us. If we do this, JD needs to trade back at 34 and get that 3rd rounder back. I love the value in rounds 3-4 this draft.
  2. I think it's more likely to be the reverse. 66 is prob. too late to grab a RT prospect. I'd be using 23 or 34 on one. Realistically to play RG and groom for RT next year (Jenkins/Cosmi/and maybe Radunz fir that). At 66 it is easier to find a guard or center only prospect.
  3. I don't think I'm willing to part with 86 and 107. To me Cosmi isn't really a drop off from Jenkins. I'm ok parting with a 3rd knowing he can prob trade back at 34 and recoup it.
  4. Agreed. This WR class is nowhere near last years. RB seems ok, but I know you don't really love most of them (and I trust your opinion). Another reason to fill up on OL and take a shot or two in the mid rounds at a WR/RB who can take it to the house on any given play, but maybe not be a "starter." There will be some good talent on D in the last 4 rounds to get someone at every level.
  5. The only thing I would change here is LB for FS. We took a Safety last year and we can FT Maye another year if we can't lock him up. I see the point of again trying to create a pipeline and have people to step in when someone walks, but if we are looking to do that LB seems way more thin. We don't know what we have in Mosely and he can get cut next year, Davis is a one year flier, Cashman is prob. not a long term answer....then a lot of nothing. We need depth/ST here at minimum.
  6. Ya, this seems impossible to me. I don't actually expect JD to draft 2 OL in the first 4 picks, but I see no way he ignores it till the late rounds. On another note, there were a lot of surprises. tremble early second round, Koonce in the 3rd (UB alum here), Schwartz in the 3rd among others.
  7. No some of those guys are more 3rd rounders, but I like them too. Gives some flexibility if the board doesn't fall right early or for double dipping.
  8. I dont mind AVT, but only as a LG. His tape at tackle reminds me of Edoga. I just dont see him as a tackle at all. At 23 give me someone who can play OG immediately but possibly take over for Fant next year: Cosmi/Jenkins.
  9. Ok but what planet dudes are there at 34? I'm hoping we go OL at 23 and I'm not against doubling up. EDGE guys have a lot of question Mark's high. Only the LSU receiver really fits prototypical size and I'm not against him either but also redundant skill set with Mims and Davis. So I just dont see exactly who we are missing out on. I'm usually not a fan of RB high as a rule, but I'm leaning back to Etienne at 34. We dont have a TE as a safety blanket and this draft really isn't deep at TE. I dont love the value of Freiermuth at 34 (maybe trade down?). I think Etienne could be that safety valve for Wislon and I think that's worth an investment in his development. If JD went CB or EDGE I'm not going to cry about it. If JD focused on other areas on O I'll be more than happy. If he took a rb at 34 I'd see the value in it even if it's not a premium position.
  10. Agreed. Listen, I won't be mad if JD took a defensive pick in the first 4, but I won't be crying if he went O all 4 picks either. We know the O needs heavy investment. The switch to a 4-3 also needs pieces, but honestly not as many. Do they need a #1 CB sure, but the guys we have can be good enough for zone, but lacking in depth. Signing someone post draft like Nelson can be big if they can't address it. Jets also need LBs. I still wont mind punting that until the 4-5th round too. Get some depth and see what Mosely and Davis can do as patch work for now. Again, I wont cry if they take a Werner or Cox, etc. earlier than that either.
  11. This isn't news and really should be standard. Each team runs a different system. Some players will not fit that system and will either be ranked lower or off their boards completely.
  12. You've got a pretty low bar for being enraged if a LB on the 4th pick will do it. C'mon pick 66 is not a sign JD is a lapdog for Saleh or even that Saleh is pounding the table for D. 3 high picks on O is a good start. Would I like to see more? Sure. But not every pick in this draft is going to be O. There just aren't enough roster spots to allocate for that. QB, OL, playmaker/OL will be a good foundation. I'd prefer we go O until the 5th, but I wont lose sleep on a 3rd rounder.
  13. Dont get me wrong I'd have no problem taking him, but when I watch the tape I dont see the athleticism. I'm sure that's scheme related, but he was always in a phone booth....at least the games I watched.
  14. @Paradis I know you've talked about Rondale Moore too. It seems these two have some similarities with physique and skill set. I know that Moore adds in jet sweeps and handoffs, but do you think the value of Eskridge is better since he may be had in the 4th? Do you think Rondale is that much better to spend a mid second (maybe even earlier)?
  15. Really not sure their grading system here. How are the Jets not last? This isn't about hitting on first or second round picks. This is about the entire draft. Jets have zero depth and talent on the roster because barely any mid to late round pick hit or is even in the league. Even our early round picks that hit aren't on the team anymore. That should also count as a negative.
  16. I'd also add that a late round pick really wont move the needle in a trade up in early rounds. If you want to move up in the 5th? Sure! I agree try to secure developmental players or core STers. Remember, UDFA are just that free agents. No guarantee who you want will actually sign with you. If you draft them you own their rights.
  17. I think both of you have really solid analysis. @derp this is more of what I was thinking when I mention positional premium - versatility. I'd rather take a shot someone who can play OG right away, but be able to kick outside due to injuries or development. Guard ONLY prospects have to be HOF level trajectory if they are picked that high. I don't necessarily believe Davis is that nor do I believe he is athletic enough for outside zone. Give me Cosmi or Jenkins any day over Davis at 23. Smaller and/or athletic IOL only can be found in the mid rounds and there are a bunch I would consider in the 3-4 rounds.
  18. It's pretty underwhelming. A few months ago Davis and Meyers would've seemed great, but just not sure they're athletic enough. I'd prefer the earlier pick to have RT upside as it's a more premium position.
  19. The Tarheels didn't test as well as people thought they should. I am on board with Gainwell at 86 if he lasts. Sermon tested way better than expected too. He might be a great pickup in that mid-range too.
  20. But guys, HE considers himself the best tackle in the draft!!!
  21. I went with Marshall. He has the size to be a #1, but he might be repetitve with what he already have (Mims/Davis). I like Rondale Moore a ton, but his size also scares me for that early of a selection. This offense needs to some explosion though and he fits for jet sweeps.
  22. mentioned him earlier as someone I was looking at in the later rounds at C. If we don't get Humphries I am all for Dalman/Morrissey.
  23. I disagree. This is the year to go quantity because there is a lot less information to go on (games, combine, etc.). Take a bunch of shots and hope they pan out. Plus just like last year at the very least a lot of picks adds better depth. Next year go for quality with a full season and combine. Hopefully the team depth will be much better and we can target key pieces.
  24. I'll add to that if you're going to draft DL at least make a passrusher...the fact that they've all been interior just makes it so much more of a fail.
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