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  1. 24 minutes ago, SAR I said:

    Look up the Jets transactions for 2017, 2018, and 2019.  Look who we dropped.  Adding a few free agents to sell tickets and jerseys isn't indicative of a team loading up for a Super Bowl run.  Chrisopher Johnson announced a rebuild, we Sucked For Sam, and we have been lopping off salary and good young players right up to this very day.  It's time to stop chopping and start growing.

    SAR I

    He dropped David Harris (age 32), Fitz (34), marshall (32), decker (30), reivs (32), mangold (32). And cleaned up contracts/players that have proven unsuccessful elsewhere (Wilkerson, Richardson, Lee, Pryor).

    What was on this team in 2016-2017 that we should have kept long term? What draft picks did he hit on in 2017-2019 other than QW (jury still out at his price) that set JD up for success? If adding players to sell jerseys (that we are still dealing with cap ramifications in 2021 and beyond) is your idea of a successful rebuild / tear down, than you might be alone.

  2. 6 hours ago, clayton163v said:

    The starting Center is Connor McGovern.  He is well-paid and will surely start for the next two years at center or guard.  While I thought the entire interior line was a disaster all season, his contract is mostly guaranteed so get used to him fellas.   The dead money hit on our cap this year and next make it impossible to move on.  It may be that he is better at guard than center or the poor guard play led to the collapse.  Again, Joe Douglas brought in a player who brings positional versatility to the line. 

    He actually has a reasonable out after this year, save 9mil cap hit if they cut him in the offseason next year. Would not be surprised if he is on the outside looking in by the end of the year if JD hits on his draft picks. 


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  3. 8 hours ago, SAR I said:

    We are on the same page philosophically.  But disagree on the timing.

    I contend that the Jets were already in a state of teardown long before Joe Douglas signed with the Jets and his clock ticking is already in Year 3.  You contend that he needed another 2 years to keep tearing the team down and we'll have to disagree on that.

    And no matter what anyone says, we'd be a better team with Jamal Adams and Leonard Williams right now.  We didn't need to cut that deeply.

    SAR I

    The tear down that included signing aging veterans like Leveon Bell and Mosley (Trumaine the year before)? What on earth are you smoking.

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  4. 5 minutes ago, Pointdexter said:

    I kind of cringe with all of the trendy projections of us going CB with our 2nd first rd pick. Flashbacks of Dee Millner, Kyle Wilson, and the infamous double safety draft are haunting me when I read it.

    Are we really going to start fresh with our brand new franchise QB at #2 and then turnaround and draft defense (again) with our first round pick, which otherwise could be used to help him??

    Aren't we making the same mistakes of the past, and it's probably time to break the cycle?

    And is anyone excited about the 4th cb off the board? How impact could that possibly be?

    Lastly, I am on the record that we need to go offense primarily in this draft to make the commitment to Zach (the one we never did for Sam and broke him), however if we do go defense early at least be smart and get a pass rusher.

    ant over. Lol

    My hope is they flip the 23rd for 2 2nd round picks (if someone in their top 12-15 doesn't fall to them). With 4 picks in the 2nd round they can pick up a CB, multiple linemen and an offensive playmaker. 


    JD needs to bet on himself (and I think he will) to find starting caliber OL in the middle rounds of the draft. 

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  5. 46 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

    Braden Mann was the NFL’s 28th ranked punter last year. Another year like that and we need to replace him. And no, his rankings are not attributable to the Jets having poor field position or him punting too many times. If anything, more punts give us more data about how good/bad he really is.

    As of now we look to have 3 starting caliber players from last year’s Draft. Let’s hope that gets to 4-5+ this year. 

    Wouldn't more punts be more taxing on the kid's leg? You don't ask a closer to pitch more than an inning and we shouldn't expect him to be on the field 5+ times a game. His yards per punt significantly dropped off in the 2nd half of the year as he accumulated the most yards in the NFL in 2020.

    I have faith he will see success in 2021 when he isn't required to be on the field as much (I hope!).

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  6. 5 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

    Last top flight receiver....Al Toon...35 years ago.

    Keyshawn? Santana moss? 


    Agree that these last 15 years have been abysmal watching them take defensive player after defensive player while being frustrated with each coaching staff when the offense doesn't sniff the top 10 in that same period. 

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  7. 35 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

    Exactly.  They might not even be sure about it yet...They may be sincere when they talk about possibly keeping Sam (although I tend to agree it's s smokescreen)

    With that said, when push comes to shove this is really the only decision they can make.

    (obvious Watson's a different story but that's a super long shot)

    I agree that they may be sincere at this point but that Adam Schefter report is coming with Saleh on the job for a few days (if that). They certainly haven't made a decision on his future with 3 months of tape and combine to review. I just do not see them reviewing his tape for the next 3 months and seeing something that justifies tying their careers to him. 

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  8. Just now, FidelioJet said:

    Sam Darnold will be traded and the Jets will take a QB at 2.

    This is the correct answer. Anything other than this for the next 3 months is a smoke screen. Saleh and Joe D would not be dumb enough to tie their careers to Darnold. It can go only 2 ways IMO after the 3 years we have of tape:

    1) He stinks up the 2021 season and we burn a year of the rebuild. And by all accounts I have heard to date, the 2022 QB class is not good.

    2) He has a good to OK season (Top 12-18 QB) where we get stuck and have to lock him up at $30 mil/year on a multi-year deal. 

    Of the 30 games on tape, I have yet to see a single half or quarter where I have said "would love to see this guy in a 2 minute drill vs Pat Mahomes in an AFC championship." He doesn't have what it takes to be a Top 5 QB and JD and our new coaching staff are not going to roll the dice (with a 5% chance) that he blooms into one in his 4th year. I can guarantee you that 9 of the next 10 SB winning QBs will be pro bowlers. Defenses are not winning championships anymore in the NFL. Last team to do it was Seattle and they have since transformed their offense to adapt.

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  9. Last year I started watching the "One Jets Drive" video series that the Jets post weekly starting during training camp / preseason going throughout the year and I must say I have been pretty impressed with the production and access to team personnel. The production I would say is close to being on-par with HBO's Hardknocks and I like that its limited to under 30 minutes, and free! Was great to hear douglas speak about the plan for the year and the Adams trade.  

    Has anyone else watched? Thoughts?


  10. 59 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    I cannot image a Newton-in-NY situation wouldn't result in QB controversy and a broken locker room.

    A Darnold - Morgan - some young kid combo is fine in my book.

    Darnold is a 3rd year NFL starting QB, he no longer should need a cock-holding "mentor", HE should be the leader, the mentor, for others at this point.  His youth is just an excuse now by the usual excuse-making fans.

    Morgan is a prospect with upside.  He can play and lose just as well as any other backup. 

    Basically, you only want a huge expensive veteran old man backup QB if:

    A. you're 100% sure Darnold will not in any way falter as a #1 (i.e. no controversy), AND

    B. you DO think Darnold will definitely get hurt and miss time in 2020, and that those games matter (i.e. we're in contention) and CAN be won by a veteran better than a young kid backup.  

    If you don't think A or B will happen, then we don;t need a Newton or a Flacco or a Fitz or a McCown or a insert-old-man-here.

    Agree on not wanting Newton, can certainly see a QB controversy there if / when Darnold struggles during the season.

    However, I don't think we run into a similar controversy / predicament if a Flacco / McCown is backing up Sam. The whole team knows Darnold is the #1 for the 2020 season regardless of his play and that the old man backup is there in case of injury.

    I would find it to be very detrimental to the young offensive talent (Mims, oline) if we got stuck starting Morgan / Fales for any more than 2 games next year if Sam were to go down. Would rather have an experienced Pro to help continue and progress our offensive talent. Maybe that person isn't Flacco/Mccown but it certainly isn't Fales.

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  11. 11 minutes ago, SAR I said:

    Expected format for 2020 schedule: Week 1-4: Out-of-Conference games Week 5-6: Equal-place Conference games Week 7-10: Divisional games/Bye weeks Week 11-14: Inter-conference games Week 15-17: Divisional games


    This gives them a ton of flexibility to start the season late. Everyone will still have the same amount of division and conference games for the playoff tiebreaker should they have a shortened season. 

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  12. 9 hours ago, Billyg said:

    There are 2 cool videos on the Jets app that everyone should see. One is the call that he received from Joe Douglas and the other was an interview. Seems like a real good guy that prepares himself well. 

    Love that he's already asking for the playbook on the draft day call. 


    The interview was great too. He says all the right things for a guy that is playing behind a young franchise qb. Just wants to make himself valuable to the team in any way he can. Not talking about trying to setup a qb competition or beat Darnold out to start. He knows his role and that he'll get his chance when/if it comes. 

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  13. 24 minutes ago, TNJet said:

    You left off Ben Graham, Nick Folk, Brad Smith and Jason Myers, Sarge.  Kickers sre specialists too.

    Ben Graham didn't play for the jets this decade.

    He marked Nick Folk as the best and only kicker that qualifies (on the jets for 2+ years this decade)

    Brad Smith was only on the team in 2010 but that is arguably the best kick returning season the jets had all decade. That kick return TD on Thanksgiving against the Bengals was awesome. Motherf**er ran 50 yards with one shoe on.

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  14. 13 hours ago, JTJet said:

    I think it's important to remember that Cro didnt return nearly as much as those others. It was more situational. 

    Are we going to put Jamal under the linebacker category too? 

    If he is a key contributitor to the only 2 playoff wins we have this decade. You bet! 

  15. 19 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

    Loaded is a relative term.  The Jets have a lot of ILB.  Williamson is considerably better than the 3 names listed in addition to Mosley.


    He WAS considerably better. Big question mark coming off major knee injury at 28 years old.

  16. As much as I was a big fan of Avery's play in 2018, would rather not roll the dice on his health in 2020 and use the $6.5 million towards upgrading at the tackle position for a year (i.e. Jason Peters). The first round of the draft can shake out so many ways and giving Joe Douglas the flexibility to move down or not be forced to pick an OT with his first pick would go a long way.

  17. From Rotoworld: https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/10633/avery-williamson

    The Athletic's Connor Hughes wonders if Jets ILB Avery Williamson (knee) will be released once healthy.

    Williamson is entering the final year of his three-year deal and missed all of last season with a torn ACL suffered in the preseason. Williamson carries an $8.5 million cap number, and the Jets can save $6.5 million of that by releasing him.  They just have to wait until he can pass a physical.  The Jets are loaded at inside linebacker, returning C.J. Mosley, Neville Hewitt, and James Burgess while adding Patrick Onwuasor. Williamson being cut seems like a no-brainer move.

    SOURCE: The Athletic
    Apr 8, 2020, 8:37 AM ET

  18. 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

    This is extremely ignorant. Who the Hell is donating to charity now? 10 million  applied for unemployment in the last 2 weeks

    Isn't that the point? Robert Kraft is spending his time and money to support others in need when the majority of people cannot. Feel free to blast him for it if that makes you feel better. 

  19. 3 hours ago, JTJet said:

    Ok, respect to your brother and all medical professionals, they need their tools for sure. 

    With that being said, spending what amounts to pennies of his money in a humanitarian effort, does not absolve Kraft from his transgressions.

    What types of charities and donations have you given with your pennies this week? 

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