morny

I will never not be astonished that we gave up a lot of draft capital to draft this kid, proclaimed him our future then never bothered to give him a dedicated QB coach to help fix his (well documented) technical issues. It's just a disgraceful dereliction of duty on our behalf.

This thread is just building me full of hope, so that when he gets traded elsewhere (Dolphins probably) it will be *extra* painful.

I must say, I was very much “Darnold has to go, draft a QB” and was stringent in it. however, I feel like all your perspective on it (in terms of how the front office, or NFL GMs in general) see him and how they see how the roster would work has brought me along where I can accept not drafting the QB now, and running with Darnold again under a Shanahan system. So cheers for that! as for the Panthers/49ers craic, is that based on stuff you’ve heard (like, you’ve heard they trying to move up) or just personal opinion/guess work?

Maybes the truth lies somewhere in between. Maybes he is a very good coach, who is very good with players and that. But he's very bad at interviews, so cannot put that forward, and struggles to articulate his ideals in a way which does well in an interview. In terms of the race thing, I suppose it was mentioned because a lot of the (understandable) narrative around him not being hired is because of potential discrimination, as from the outside he looks like an ideal hire. I'd venture a guess that isn't the case with him at all, it's that he is just bad at interviewing (or bad at the other stuff - i don't know, it's all just speculation).

Interesting no Joe Brady in that table, considering I’ve read a few times on here he supposedly aced his interview. May solidify what you’re saying about wanting a Shanahan style offence brought in, hence chasing the specific coaches. Also, remember you post a couple of “most” and “least” likely to want to keep Darnold (remember specifically Pederson on the least likely option). I can’t recall the rest - were Saleh/Smith/Staley on there? If you don’t mind me asking of course, don’t want to put on.

Anybody know anything else of Smith? Obviously he runs a nice offence in Tennessee, but anything else on him? Get the impression he’s a bit more a chilled out individual than Saleh (which doesn’t matter, it’s just different no right or wrong), but I don’t know loss about him so could be wrong.

Fair enough, each to their own, I understand wanting to bring in somebody who's got experience of being a HC, although they also have risks - your examples have the same NFL HC experience as Saleh, and in the case of Fitzgerald he has no NFL coaching experience as far as I know. Point being, no candidate is going to be perfect - any experience, good NFL HC is unlikely to shake free (Pederson is as close as it gets). Maybe Saleh is rubbish, but based on everything he seems like a sound, logical hire regardless of whether he's a first-time HC or not. It's nice to be excited about a hire and looking forward to moving forward as opposed to the last appointment of (experience, NFL Playoff HC) Gase, so personally I'm going to enjoy it.

If we hire Salah, and he wins a Superbowl but it takes him 13 years to win a Superbowl.......I'll accept that yeah.

By that rationale, you shouldn't hold it against any first-time head coaches taking over really bad teams then? If the line you're trying to push is that first-time head coaches don't have success, then if add enough conditions to it (can't have coached for too long, can't have took over too good of a team) then you'll probably be able to work-it to fit your point. At the same time, i can point out that 6 of the last 15 have been won by first-timers. In fact, in that 15 year span, as first-timers have won it (6) than coaches with previous experience (also 6). I wouldn't like us to limit ourselves to only coaches with previous experience because, well, the pot ain't full. It'd be Pederson or then onto someone like Anthony Lynn, Vance Joseph, Jason Garrett etc.....

Cowher and Tomlin as well. Out of the last 15 years, think 6 have been first-time HCs. Also, likes of McVay, Shanahan, Riviera, Quinn, Caldwell and (other) Harbaugh have all made it to the Superbowl as a first-time HC, and there'll likely be at least another one this year (only Arians and Reid who could stop them).

Season ended a week later this year, in fairness.

I agree in terms of Pederson (I’m a huge fan), but it was the wild card game they lost to Seahawks last year, when Clowney put Wentz out, so wouldn’t have been into the NFC Champ would have been up against Packers I *think* in Divisional. I do agree with your overall point thought pal, sorry to be a bit of pedantic swine!

I agree in terms of Pederson (I’m a huge fan), but it was the wild card game they lost to Seahawks last year, when Clowney put Wentz out, so wouldn’t have been into the NFC Champ would have been up against Packers I *think* in Divisional. I do agree with your overall point thought pal, sorry to be a bit of pedantic swine!

I agree in terms of Pederson (I’m a huge fan), but it was the wild card game they lost to Seahawks last year, when Clowney put Wentz out, so wouldn’t have been into the NFC Champ would have been up against Packers I *think* in Divisional. I do agree with your overall point thought pal, sorry to be a bit of a douche!

I agree in terms of Pederson (I’m a huge fan), but it was the wild card game they lost to Seahawks last year, when Clowney put Wentz out, so wouldn’t have been into the NFC Champ would have been up against Packers I *think* in Divisional. I do agree with your overall point thought pal, sorry to be a bit of a douche!