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  1. Phillyjet, I definitely agree with this sentiment. My point has been that the current state of the Jets is so bad (due to drafting and injuries) that it would have taken near perfect QB play to win the game against the Bills. Obviously, Darnold wasn't close to perfect on Sunday. Darnold might end up being the wrong guy for the Jets, but right now the Jets don't have the "critical mass" of surrounding talent to succeed consistently against good teams. There is no reason to give up on Sam yet. The games are going to be played (assuming no Covid outbreaks) and hopefully the Jets will get some of their offensive talent back. If you are hoping for a "Tank for Trevor" have at it - it's a free country. Me, I'd rather hope that the Jets improve and Darnold succeeds. If JD can get Darnold some healthy support without breaking the bank I would be in favor of that. We certainly have the draft capital to get some talent - although I have no idea who would be a seller at this point in the season. I don't know likely a reasonable deal could be made at this point. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  2. What you say about those plays being "inexcusable" is true. However, i see QB's make "inexcusable" plays all the time - and thier teams still win. Allen missed a wide open receiver in the end zone during the game. He had a couple of bone-headed fumbles against the Jets. I also saw him have an "inexcusable" fumble during the playoffs last year. Is Darnold prone to make more "inexcusable" plays than others? Perhaps I would agree with that assessment. However, those inexcusable plays are rarely the difference between wins and losses. If Darnold doesn't have those rookie mistakes, do the Jets win this game? Hardly. I will stand by my statement that unless the Jets had nearly perfect QB play on Sunday they would have lost that game. They lost by 10 points and the fact that they didn't lose by 17, 20, or more points is a blessing - and had more to do with errors on the Bills side than anything the Jets did. The defense sucked and couldn't get off the field. The receivers dropped balls in the first half forcing the Jets to punt. The OL in my opinion did Darnold no favors. He rarely (not never) had a clean pocket. If you looked at what Darnold had to endure in relation to Allen's adversity during the game it was no contest. Did Darnold miss some throws? Yes. Did he make a few boneheaded decisions? Yes. However, the hysteria over his performance vs. the rest of the team's crappy play is overblown in my opinion. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  3. That is what many people here obviously think. I am not saying that Darnold will be a top 5-10 QB in the league. However, the rest of the team was so poor that he basically had to be almost perfect to give the Jets a chance to win against the superior Bills (where QB's averages a rating of 80 last year). Most other QB's can make a myriad of mistakes and still have their teams win. However, Darnold - based on the Jets depleted talent vs. the Bills - could not. Although I doubt that he will ever be perfect in a game, a believe that we will see better results once the OL gels and the injured WR return. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  4. The original post just reminds you how unimportant football really is in the scheme of things - at least for us fans. As I always tell my kids, "No matter what happpens with the Jets on Sunday, you still have to get up and go to work on Monday morning". That's why, even though I invest as much time as I ever did following the Jets, I don't really let a sh*tty Jets outing put me in the dumps anymore. A very touching story. I feel terrible for the guy's family. 51 is definitely too young. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  5. Speaking of Newman. Wrong sport I know. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  6. As long as Vyncint Smith is back for the playoffs we'll be fine [emoji846]. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  7. SAR I - I remember you from the pre-Internet on the old Usenet NY Jets group. Unfortunately we are talking 30 years. I mostly love your posts ‐ especially the farcical ones. However, to compare a QB's influence on a team's result vs. a first baseman's impact is stretching things just a bit. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  8. Slats, why did Greencow get banned? Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  9. If I believed that you were being honest and inadvertently forgot the ".9" I wouldn't have called you out. However, it's pretty easy to look at any stat lines for Darnold and Allen and subtract 61.9% - 58.8% and see the difference is 3.1% (at least you would see it's more than 3%). We are not talking calculus here. When trying to compare two QB's I don't think that many people would start picking numbers to add to completions then divide by attempts (like you did) to see how many extra completions it would take to get to a certain percentage. You could do it of course, but it would be trial and error and take you longer. (Sorry to get all "mathy" here). I have added their rookie years because as far a I know they count in the career stats assessment. Every site I look at to compare stats they show both seasons. It's not like 2018 didn't happen. Why do you discount 2018? Do you know that the 2018 is an outlier? I am happy to count both the 2019 season and their career stats - which is how I responded. PS: I understand totally what you're saying.
  10. You were the one that was so adamant on the 10 completion (first 10 checkdowns) difference between Allan and Darnold per year. You must have mentioned it over 10 times in this thread and derided anyone you didn't agree with you. A more accurate number over their two year careers is more than 19 extra completions adjusted for a full 16 game season. In the grand scheme of things, .9% might not be significant, but a 3.5% completion peecentage difference (over their careers) is not insignificant. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  11. Greencow, sorry but your not being intellectually honest. Darnolds completion percentage was over 61.9% not 61% . That extra .9% over 461 passes works out to over four extra completions. Using any calculator that has all the buttons: 285 (ie. 14 extra completions than Allen actually had) / 461 = 61.822%. That is less than Darnold's real completion percentage of over 61.9%. Therefore, Allen would have to complete more than 14 extra completions over the last season than he actually had match Darnold's completion percentage. The same result would also be seen if you used an abacus or a slide rule. No offense, but maybe you should pick up your mic or enroll in Mathnasium. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  12. Actually you math is wrong Greencow. Taking a look at 2019, Darnold's completion percentage was more than 3.1٪ higher than Allen's. Even using Allens less than average 461 throws (and multiply by. 031) that works out to almost 14.5 extra completions over a season - not 10. Using an average QB that throws 34 times a game as a baseline, that would work out to almost 17 extra completions a year. If you look at both seasons, Darnold's completion percentage is over 3.5% better than Allen's. That works out to be over 16 more completions a year assuming 461 throws. Using a normal amount of throws per game, that would work out to over 19 extra completions. Sorry to break the news to you. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  13. It's amazing to me that some people just assume that a young, second year QB, with relatively little college experience will automatically light the league on fire statistically and "carry a team on his back" with inarguably one of the worst offensive teams around him while he is coming off the effects of mono. To me this position seems seems unreasonable. Could it happen? Sure. However, to expect it to happen to every QB that eventually proves himself in this league is far fetched. The arguements have been mentioned ad nauseum here so I will try to not repeat too much. People have said that Darnold was a bottom 5 QB statistically last year. However, I contend that to not consider the NE game in his second week back from mono in their analysis in disingenuous. The game was awful (no doubt about it), but I think a reasonable conclusion is that another statistical outlier so profound will not happen again to Darnold in his career. If you take the Pat's game out of Darnold's stats in addition to his best game statistically (to balance things out), his QB rating jumps over 4.5 points to almost 89 points and he becomes a middle of the pack QB - at least statistically. I bet you can't do that to any other QB in the league last year and have their rank increase 10 spots. Also, some have discounted Darnold replacement value effect vs. his backups stating that his backups were utter trash. That may be true in 2019. However you have to look at 2018 as well. Just the year before, McCown had a very decent year on the Jets. On the 2018 Jet team he stunk it up (albeit in only a 3 game stretch). Again in a "perfect" world a young QB in the first couple of years will always rise above his team and have a rating of 95+ no matter who he is surrounded by and lead the team to the playoffs. However, that happens less than you think. Any way you slice it, nobody knows what will happen this year or in the future with Darnold. Of course, you can take a negative slant and more often than not you'll be "proven" right. Not because you have extra perception - it's just that most potential NFL QB's end up failing so you'll be right more than you'll be wrong. Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app
  14. When I try to log at the latest Mosley Twitter post that people are referring to I can't see it when I select the link. Did he remove that tweet? If so, can someone enlighten me on the wording? Sent from my SM-G975U using JetNation.com mobile app

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