[Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh and Rex Hogan to give their predraft news conference today 2:15pm]

2 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

This is actually alarming, to me.

There's no difference between building around a new QB and building the best team.

Players that protect the QB helps everyone.

Players that score TDs helps everyone.

Players that sustain drives and keep the defense fresh helps everyone.

Players that shut down the opposing offense helps everyone.

Players that create turnovers giving our offense additional possessions helps everyone.

Nothing about this statement makes any sense to me. I hope it was just nonsensical GM speak.

I think you are reading too much into this. IMO they are weighing OL/WR/TE/RB as positions that would qualify as building around a young QB (unlike what happen with Sam)

Where as Edge/CB/LB would not be considered building around the QB yet would mean building up the TEAM

[Zach Wilson to Steve Young "whats the best way to find success no matter where you land?]

21 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Don't go all Greenie on me man

Haha I can't go Greenie, dude kills me. I just don't think the question carries the weight that others may imply. 

[Zach Wilson to Steve Young "whats the best way to find success no matter where you land?]

I think it's a fine question, I'm sure he's a little worried with our extensive track record of awful

[For those still wishing for Fields, get in here! We're going to his proday tomorrow again]

11 hours ago, legler82 said:

As NFLN was trying to rationalize Casserly mocking Fields at 24 in his latest mock the following graphic came up: 

Should noted that Fields played in the least amount of games so his turnover worthy plays should be higher.

 

*edit* - disregard that is career not this past year. Wilson 30 games, Fields 34 games, Lawrence 35 games.

[NY Jets: Travis Etienne says he would ‘fit perfectly’ with Gang Green]

I'd still love to have Gainwell but I don't think it happens. As mentioned above, I don't see RB before day 3 if at all.

[Bills Allowing Max Capacity with Proof of Vaccination]

3 minutes ago, KRL said:

If you could engage your brain cells you would know that the point I'm
making is that the government has a history of saying "something is for
the public good" but then doing the opposite.  Its called analytical
thinking, do some research

This is true, there are some really dark things that our government has attempted (Operation Northwoods) and even more recently followed through with.

[Bills Allowing Max Capacity with Proof of Vaccination]

58 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Are you aware of the normal annual deaths from the flu? This past year the number of flu cases is nil. Easier to report everything as COVID when you’re getting federal funds for one but not the other. 
Promised myself I wouldn’t get sucked back in. COVID is real & dangerous but what’s being sold to the public is not the whole truth. This is government overreach and a power grab to move all to one payer system 

I've heard this argument, to an extent I get it. But if you look total deaths from year to year you can tell something is far different this past year than any we've seen.

 

Edit* - one could also argue that because of the intense sanitization seen, the mask wearing, and the social distancing we should see a record low number of flu deaths.

[Bills Allowing Max Capacity with Proof of Vaccination]

12 hours ago, zonajetfan said:

Do people actually not realize it is not even intended to stop the spread lol. It is only intended use is to suffer lesser symptoms....allegedly. I place blame squarely on our pathetic media class, sports included. 

Well... to be fair, the vaccines have been reported 100% against hospitalization and death. Which IMO is good with me, whole goal is to not die haha

[Zach wilson small hands/ arms correlates bad and seen in small frame on highlights]

54 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

Relative to being 6-2 having 9.5 inch hands is great.

Yea that's kinda what I was thinking haha some of these graphics don't appear to make much sense without context

[Zach wilson small hands/ arms correlates bad and seen in small frame on highlights]

On 4/8/2021 at 12:12 PM, dbatesman said:

I mean it’s below average for NFL QBs, but yeah, great is the word I was thinking of

I think I'm confused how to read this. 9 1/2 would put him in the 45%tile. Are they only grading good QBs? Are there no bad QBs with 9 1/2 inch hands? It would appear this chart is grading all QBs regardless of skill level which probably won't give us great results.

[What are the premium positions to prioritize?]

Ideally:

#2 - QB

#23 - CB

#34 - G

#66 - Edge (would like to double dip with this position)

[Brian Hoyer talking with Jets Today]

25 minutes ago, Warfish said:

What does Brian Hoyer actually provide?  Is it literally just "we must have a guy who has started a few NFL games"?

Moves like this just always boggle my mind.  He seems to bring nothing to the table, his "mentorship" seems vastly over-rated to me (if it were Brett Favre or Tom Brady, sure, maybe, but Brian Hoyer?  Really? It's McCown and Darnold all over again).

He won't win anything if he has to play, and he has no future here after the first year.

If Wilson needs a mentor, hire a Coach.

If we want a backup who won't win, we already got Morgan.

I'll just never agree with wasting a QB roster spot on an old loser backup.  The traditional conservativism of NFL teams continues.  

So guys are really good backups, reason why McCown and Daniel's have hung around the league so long. My guess is Hoyer is being thought of in the same mold.

[Brian Hoyer talking with Jets Today]

29 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Eh.  Not the best, but not the worst choice.  He knows the Shanny system very well.

Yea I agree, Hoyer doesn't really get me excited but I think he'd fit the backup roll well. No reason to spend a ton on a backup if we don't really expect a deep run.

[Nike drops Watson...]

2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

I bet Big Ben was glad his allegations happen before me too. 

I remember listening to I think the DA say that the DNA wasn't fully conclusive but that Ben had his bodyguard block the door from anyone getting into the bathroom. Guy is a sleeze ball.

[Nike drops Watson...]

2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said:

I bet Big Ben was glad his allegations happen before me too. 

I remember listening to I think the DA say that the DNA wasn't fully conclusive but that Ben had his bodyguard block the door from anyone getting into the bathroom. Guy is a sleeze ball.

[Texans may be preparing to trade Watson.]

I want to grow our QB from draft pick to franchise QB, it's like working for your own money rather than taking mom and dads handout.

That said, prior to this and even as recently as yesterday I'd have been fine trading #2 (that's it) and having Watson for 2022.

Zero chance Douglas entertains this, Zero reason to if you believe in one of the rookies.

[Darnold to the Panthers]

9 hours ago, Big_Slick said:

Sunday Ticket had a feature where they condensed the game into a 30 minute window. It showed every play with only a few seconds between them.

Yea exactly, shave off those seconds and the ones during the tackle and it's probably pretty close to 15 mins

[Darnold to the Panthers]

10 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

What football game lasts ten minutes?

I think most of them, I could be slightly off on time but actual minutes being played with the ball in motion is comically low compared to any other major sport.

[The Stick with Darnold Thread]

Michael Nania is the man, guy is always diving into tape. I completely agree with his stance. Legit one of the most knowledgeable fans I've ever met.

[The Draft Wilson/Keep Darnold, too, Hypothesis Thread]

IMO if we take Wilson it would be wise to move on from Sam. If the best offer we are getting is a late 3rd round pick then I'd try to do #23 + Sam for #19 (Washington) or #20 (Bears), value is about a late 3rd - assuming a player we like is there. If you could somehow do #34 + Sam that would be even better

[Zach Wilson Pro Day]

6 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

God this gif brings back memories of Johnny Football haha

[Jets Signing Tevin Coleman]

14 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Another 1 year deal

I'm a big fan of the one year deal. Keeps the player motivated for their next contract, allows the Jets a higher likelihood of getting a comp pick if the player performs well, leaves the door open for draft picks to replace them, and leaves us with $0 in dead cap. Jets had like $17m in dead cap last year, basically like losing an elite WR worth of money due to bad contracts.

[Sheldon Rankins Signs 2yr deal with Jets]

2 hours ago, New York Mick said:

He’s not making it that far. There’s a shortage of good CBs in this draft so the good ones are going high. 

Depends where he's ranked, I've seen a lot of him in that range.

Big Board Ranks

CBS - 27th

Tankathon - 49th

Walter Football - 3rd Round

PFF - 29th

Daniel Jeremiah - not on top 50

DraftTek - 26th

ESPN - 45th

Todd McShay - not in top 32

Mel Kiper - not in top 25

 

It's a hard year to grade players but I don't think 34 is a reach. The nice thing is we have the 23rd pick so if CBs are going quick we should be able to get one. I'm hoping Horn somehow makes it down to us.

[Sheldon Rankins Signs 2yr deal with Jets]

1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

Ive been looking at CBs for the mock and I don’t see anyone I’d take at 30. I think all the top guys will be gone by then and there will be better options at different positions. 

I've been a big fan of Asante Samuel Jr at 34

[Nick Spano of Ustadium: The Jets will all but lock Zack in at pick #2 if his physical checks out]

19 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

So let’s say this happens....on what planet is it smart to have Darnold on this team still? It’s like finding a new chick and plowing her in front of your depressed loser ex that is somehow still living with you.

Darnold needs to be gone ASAP. It wouldn’t have been bad to get rid of him even before knowing what they were doing at QB. The team is a train wreck and he’s a big reason why. If they decided not to draft a QB (which seems unlikely), sign a cheap veteran and have a year to implement new systems and have players gain experience. I just want Darnold gone and his value maximized. 

 

Joe Douglas was on the Eagles after they took Wentz at #2 overall. They held on to Sam Bradford until Teddy Bridgewater tore his knee and they flipped him for a 1st during the preseason.