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  1. Poll Darnold vs Mayfield

    His TD/INTs are 173/220 even in that era was not great. Compared to Dawson,Starr, Jurgensen, Tarkington, or even Gabriel. I say this as a HUGE Namath fan. I literally stare at this in my office all day! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  2. Poll Darnold vs Mayfield

    We probably shouldn’t look at Namath’s career totals. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  3. Kearse/Powell are worth more to us than the late round pick we’d get. I would move Carpenter for a pick - what could we get a 6th? Petty - if they can find a taker it would likely only net us a conditional pick next year otherwise he’ll be released once they know Teddy can actually step onto the field. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  4. Poll Darnold vs Mayfield

    I think the bigger discussion is the conference. The Big 12 has yet to produce a good QB in the NFL. Whereas the Pac 10 has a few guys balling in the league right now with a much better overall resume historically. I agree. There have been a ton of Big12 QBs (not just OU) that were all-world in college yet did nothing in the pros. I am not going to say with 100% guarantee that Mayfield won’t a good/great QB in the NFL I do think that the odds are stacked against him. There is 1 Drew Brees. I don’t see the comps to Wilson far better athlete. Mayfield has to hope to follow the Brees model. Have the best footwork and mechanics in the league to become a good/great QB. He simply doesn’t have that now either did Brees when he entered the league. Is Mayfield capable of doing this? I put long odds on it because I have never spoke to him or know much about other than what is “common knowledge”. I do know I have seen a bunch of great college QBs flame out in the pros. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  5. Poll Darnold vs Mayfield

    I do love the “USC quarterback” thing as a negative for Darnold. You do realize that USC has had like 3 different Head Coaches since Sanchez was there. Bob Stoops has been at OU until a month or so prior to the the 2017 season. He had Heupel, White, Bomer (booted from team), Thompson, Bradford, Jones, Knight and Mayfield. That’s 3 Heisman winners and 1 runner up. Surprisingly, all have collected a NFL paycheck. (That does include practice squad). Should we summarily dismiss Mayfield because only Bradford became a marginal QB? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  6. Poll Darnold vs Mayfield

    Have to go Darnold. Both he and Rosen are getting picked apart much like Mannings. (Not saying they will be a good). They did not live up to expectations their final years of college, no Heismans. Darnold is only 20. Probably not done filling out. He needs to work on fumbles and foot work. I have watched a lot of Mayfields games. Fantastic college player. I think he will not have the same ability to keep plays alive like he did in college because the speed is so much faster in the NFL. Also, I am not sure why it is assumed by many that Mayfield can effectively play under center. That is a major concern for me. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  7. The report is probably correct. Rosen surprising goes 1 (as he should IMHO), 2. Darnold 3. Allen or Mayfield (we get the choice of the two high bust probability guys). Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  8. David Carr on the Draft Qbs

    Just not sure how one doesn’t rate Rosen most pro ready. They can all be day one starters (if it’s a good idea or not is another question). With Rosen you know he can work under center, seems to have a very high football iq and can make all the throws. If you google “Baker Mayfield under center” a video of him at the Senior Bowl pops up. (Don’t want to post if against rules). It shows four or five snaps. I know is is a non-existent sample size but he is hesitant and his footwork is not great. I hope that this aspect of his game is the only thing he has been working on. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  9. Gil Brandt’s latest draft predictions

    There have been a ton of “reports” since the combine and there will be a ton more in the next two weeks. All just to get clicks. I still think there is 90% chance Darnold and Rosen go 1/2. Jets pick between Allen and Mayfield. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  10. Or you could look UCLA going 1-7 (I think) without Rosen. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  11. The simple answer, yes it matters. Can it be overcome, sometimes. Look, a QB at 6 feet tall is short for the position. When they say “see over linemen”, they don’t necessarily mean over the head. There are shoulders, gaps between arm contact, backs to see over. At 6 feet you are more likely to staring the back of lineman in a 3 step drop vs a 6’3’” qb who will see over the shoulder or another gap. That is a simple fact of life. (Completing a pass is a different story) Shorter QBs have to rely more on their legs to bootleg/move around (Wilson/Vick) or be perfect with their footwork and timing (Brees). If those don’t work the 6’ QB is headed to the CFL or Arena Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  12. Baker Mayfield/Steve Mariucci white board session.

    The one thing I will miss with Gruden taking the Raiders job are the QB sit downs. Personally, I don’t know that it shows if a person actually grasps the playbook or just spits it back out word for word. I think they are good for fans who can watch them and eliminate prospects that screw up. Think back to the Paxton Lynch/Gruden one. After watching that I wanted no part of him. He was unprepared/dopey/perhaps under the influence. I am pretty sure that the play has been gone over prior to the interview. (Really think an advisor is going to let a multi-million dollar opportunity slip away on an unknown). All they have to do is repeat. If you can’t do that there is NO hope. Mayfield did well and what he was supposed to do. He certainly did not hurt himself with the interview. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  13. Your final ranking of the 5 QBs

    1. Rosen. (I think by a large margin) I can’t believe the “he doesn’t love the game and will walk away after a few years.” I highly doubt he (or any of the other 1st round qbs) walks durning or after his rookie contract. Even if he is a bust of a pick he will still be collecting a NFL pay check years from now. Backup qbs still make millions in a career with much less of a chance for injuries. 2. Darnold - he does seem to have “it factor”. The others guys (much bigger concerns) 3. Allen. I think the right coach and system he could be good. 4. Lauletta- decent arm, high football iq. (No shot at taking 3) 5. Mayfield- gut feeling says his style will need more work than people expect to fit the pros. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  14. Completely, agree. Just hope we have a shot at Rosen or Darnold. However, at the end of the day I think we get the choice Allen or Mayfield. I’d take Allen over Mayfield but who really knows. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app