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  1. 5 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

    I think that Wilson and Fields are good fits for Lafleur's offense, and both could thrive in it, my assumption is that the mobility and athleticism Fields brings to the table would unlock new heights for that offense. 

    Darnold is the one who does not fit that well, we have 3 years of him being inaccurate to prove it, if you go back and watch his tape most of his INT came from a clean pocket where he had to make a quick decision, thats the base for the WC offense. And if you don't trust me theres data out there to prove it. 

    Did you watch the Rams game. What did you see.

  2. 29 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

    Plus they get to sell it to the fan base that they didn't want to trade him at any price, and did everything they could to mend the relationship. Worse PR for them to take a lowball offer that's less than teams get just for trading down in round 1 for an unproven QB prospect. 

    They're going to suck in 2021 anyway. Why take the double PR hit, too?

    Absolutely. They we're 4-12 with Watson having a good year. No 1st rd pick this year. They need a boatload of players. More than us.

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  3. 49 minutes ago, nycdan said:

    Are you even willing to consider that the #2 pick is worth a great deal more than the #23 pick?  Because you make it seem like all 1st rounders are the same.

    FWIW the trade value chart puts the value of #2 at almost exactly 3x the value of #23.

    They could let Watson sit the year, finish 0-16, then trade down, trade Watson and rebuild the entire team. That's what i'd do.

  4. 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

    Are you freaking kidding me. Flacco was shut out by Miami. Effing Miami for crying out loud. How is that better than Darnold? Flacco also lost every game he played and Sam won two. I would take Darnold over Flacco as my starter any day. 

    So would everyone else who's rational. Lol.

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  5. 22 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said:

    Under the same circumstanced Flacco thru the ball away while Sam either thru INT or took sacks.  

    Your right. Flacco has been in the league for 13 yrs. When he was drafted he had a QB coach. Jim Zorn. Flacco said he was a great help. Without him, he might never have made it. Experience, and proper teaching count for something. No

  6. 1 hour ago, shuler82 said:

    I literally posted in this same thread that Sam had some of the worst ‘clean pocket’ numbers in the league. He’s bad under pressure. He’s bad with no pressure. He’s bad when his WRs are hurt. He’s bad when his WRs are healthy. Maybe he’s just not that good. 
     

    If Saleh and LeFleur think they can fix him and decide to bring him back this year, I’ll be the first one in line rooting for him.. but I’m also not going to continue to make excuses for the guy. Yeah his situation had sucked but he’s done nothing to show he can be an average, let alone a top QB in this league.

    The only receiver who gets open on a regular basis is Crowder. Darnolds job is to put points on the scoreboard. He forces throws too much, because he basically has no chance to score, otherwise. They aren't excuses. Did the olay calling suck. Yes. Did the running game suck. Yes. Did the offensive line pass block well. Run block well. No. It's not one issue that's hampered his development. It's a host of issues combined that have nothing to do with Sam. Look at what Daniel Jones did in 2019 when he had Barkley. Look at what he did this year without him. Talent around a QB counts. Especially a young one like Sam

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  7. 1 hour ago, Lizard King said:

    The poor kid hasn’t had any decent coaching since he came into the league. His first head coach went back to being a defensive coordinator. His second head coach will be lucky if he coaches high school. Im not saying he’s Johnny Unitas but how about being taught the way to play the game the right way at the professional level at least. Give the kid a ******* chance 

    It amazes me. All that's come out about Gase and his inept and unexplainable failure to make life easier for his young QB, to help his receivers creat seperation, the reoccurring gameplans week in and week out. This isn't even talking about the talent level. How can anyone fairly evaluate Sam under those circumstances

  8. 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

    Even worse was that it stunted his growth and development while people here were complaining that "if Darnold is a FQB then he'd be raising the play of guys around him like Brady does."  How do you develop a guy when he's trying to complete passes and make plays with guys who shouldn't be starting in the league?  It's like spending two years of a Little Leaguer's life teaching him to hit by giving him a hockey stick and tossing beach balls across the plate.

    With no running game, and no QB coach. This organization should give Sam another chance, based on guilt alone.

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  9. 6 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

    If we were a competitive team with a franchise QB, having Allen, Watson and the Pats in the same division with us could make for some really entertaining seasons. That being said, lol, we most definitely do not have a franchise QB and hoping for the Phins to land Watson because maybe Sam will rise to the occasion is, um... A scary scenario to me . 

    As far as I'm concerned? Watson going to Mia means that the Jets are a long way from being able to win this division and the 2nd place team will likely be a roadblock to a wildcard. 

    But as you mentioned, the NFL is very unpredictable and nobody knows for sure what's going to happen. For me That's, Thats why no matter how much this team drives me insane (winning those meaningless games and losing Lawrence drove me through a wall this year) I always end up looking to next season for more punishment 🤷🏼‍♂️

    It's hard looking on the bright side being a Jet's fan.  No more Gase. A HC, that players might want to come here and play for. Bunch of draft picks, and money to spend. Like you said. Nothing is a sure thing in sport. 

  10. 5 minutes ago, MichaelScott said:

    If we were a competitive team with a franchise QB, having Allen, Watson and the Pats in the same division with us could make for some really entertaining seasons. That being said, lol, we most definitely do not have a franchise QB and hoping for the Phins to land Watson because maybe Sam will rise to the occasion is, um... A scary scenario to me . 

    As far as I'm concerned? Watson going to Mia means that the Jets are a long way from being able to win this division and the 2nd place team will likely be a roadblock to a wildcard. 

    But as you mentioned, the NFL is very unpredictable and nobody knows for sure what's going to happen. For me That's, Thats why no matter how much this team drives me insane (winning those meaningless games and losing Lawrence drove me through a wall this year) I always end up looking to next season for more punishment 🤷🏼‍♂️

     

  11. 9 hours ago, MaybeOneDay said:

    Hello.  I am a long suffering Jets fan, as are many of you, I'm sure.  Now in my mid-late 40's, I can only hope that some day, my loyalty to the Jets is paid off.

    I've been lurking on Jets Nation for a long time.  Must say, this place is Awesome.  Kudos to Max, his team, and all of my fellow Jets fans for making this a special place.

    I felt like sharing some idle thoughts:

    - It really grinds my gears hearing about potentially adding guys like DeShaun Watson and JuJu Smith-Schuster to the team, when we simply could have drafted them a few years ago.

    - It really highlights just how mismanaged and inept this team has been over the last 10, especially the last 5 years.  Just Awful...we've stunk at GM, we've stunk at coaching, and we've obviously stunk on the field.

    - I almost quit being a fan when we beat the Rams. So typical Jets to win that game.  I pray those days are behind us.

    - I agree with something I read here last week, in some ways, it feels like the transition from 1996 to 1997...not exactly the same, but that sensation that some of this crap may be behind us, and we may just have some competent folks running the show from now on.

    - Very encouraged by what I've observed from Joe Douglas so far.   In my opinion, he's already proven himself better than our previous few GM's.  Wouldn't it be nice if he proves to be a Top 10, maybe even Top 5 GM in the NFL?  Dare I dream?

    - Cautiously hopeful about our new Coach, Robert Saleh.  Love the energy he brings, the passion.   Seems to have the respect of many in the league.  I can't wait to see what he can do.

    - Look, I get it, Darnold hasn't looked very good these last few seasons.  To be honest, not many on the team have.  The team was a dumpster fire under Gase.  I bet Patrick Mahomes wouldn't have looked very good playing QB for the Jets these last few years.  I WANT Darnold to play well...and I WANT him to do it for the Jets.  I am not opposed to upgrading, but honestly, I was excited when they drafted him.  From all accounts, he seems like a good kid, well respected by his teammates, coachable...he seems to have a lot of good qualities.  He's also still very young.  It would be a shame if Gase ruined this kid.   I urge his doubters to go back and watch some his games his rookie year.  In particular, the Colts and Packers games stick out in my mind.  The kid you saw play those games was not the same one you saw play the last 2 years.  Plus, if you sell Darnold off right now, what are you getting back? Unless they are adding DeShaun Watson or Russell Wilson to this team, I say it's in the Jets best interest to keep Darnold and let him compete with whoever else is brought in.  Be it a rookie, or vet free agent / trade.  It would be such a Jets thing to do to trade him off for a 2nd round pick then watch him blossom on another team. 

    - I was so dumbfounded and irritated at that meaningless win vs. the Rams, not necessarily because I was so gung-ho to add Trevor Lawrence, rather I was dreaming of the treasure trove we could have gotten in return for trading 1st overall.  Think what we could have gotten from the Jaguars to trade down to 2?  Now think what we might still get by trading down from 2....What a missed opportunity, I fear.  

    - Whatever the Jets do in Free Agency / Trades, they still need to build the team through the Draft.  It's not going to happen overnight.  My hope is last year's draft was the start...this year's will continue the build, and we see drastic improvement in our level of play.  I want this team to compete, play hard, play smart, and start to do things the right way.  Not expecting a winning season, although that would be nice.  I just want to have a reasonable chance in most every game this year, and win our share.   

    Thanks for reading.  Go Jets

    A hell of an effort in your post. I agree with most of what you said 

  12. 41 minutes ago, BettyBoop said:

    I don’t disagree but with Fant on the roster and so many holes elsewhere I’m not sure that’s a luxury we can afford.  And Vera-Tucker has successfully played both T and G at USC.

    One of my goals was to replace both Lewis and Van Roten this year.  I think they’re both terrible.

    I don't think Tucker makes it to #23. If thats the case, maybe Trey Smith? And yea, our guards right now are less than ordinary.

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  13. 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    It says the HC, especially one like Gase who also is the pseudo OC is incredibly important to the de elopement of a NFL QB.

    HC. OC. QC. One thing i can say with confidence. If you can't communicate well, you can't teach. And Darnold, who was 21 yrs old when Gase took over needed a teacher. Anong other things that have been discussed ad-nauseum here.

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