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  1. 14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    If you are trying to make the point that Watson doesnt take snaps from under center you need to rewatch Deshaun Watson video.  Not just highlights of passing plays and downs.  

    First highlight is from under center, stop there

     

    Your right. Learning a lot the last few days about Texans use of Watson. Say what you want about Bill O Brian. He designed everything to help play to Watson's abilities. Wish we could have said the same thing about Gase. And the Texans are a mess. What does that say about us the last two years when Gase was here. Damn.

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  2. 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    And again with the "in a spread offense" nonsense.  Watson is a very good QB because hes a really good QB.  Hes top of the NFL QB.  Its not because of the spread offense.  Youre trying to lessen his impact on the Texans offense by insisting its some mumbo jumbo offense at work

    No nut, im not, lessening his impact. H e was great at Clemson and the Texans in that offense . Taking snaps under center is something he's never done. Would he be the same QB that requires that. Maybe. Probably. We don't know. He's never done it.

  3. 51 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

    I don’t think it’s even that complicated. There have been twenty hit pieces blowing up Easterby and McNair and not one person from inside the organization has tried to refute any of those stories. JJ Watt didn’t even try defending Texans management, and he’s going to end up with a bronze statue of himself outside their stadium one day. John McClain, who’s covered that organization like a blanket since the beginning, just said in an interview that every player wants out of there right now because of Easterby. I don’t think it’s an issue of Watson waking up and deciding he doesn’t like Houston anymore, I think it’s Watson watching in disbelief as McNair keeps elevating the team pastor into more and more prominent roles in the organization, firing everyone from the team’s PR professional to the beloved equipment guy because they didn’t fit “the culture.”

     

    Watson knew who Easterby was when he signed on the dotted line. Hopkins had already been traded. O Brian was still there. This is about wanting to jump ship because the Texans are in for a long rebuild, and Watson is coming up with these red herrings about why he wants out.

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  4. 12 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

    It absolutely can be for some, but there’s been no indication that a lack of motivation is or has been an issue with Darnold (let alone such a major one that it rises to the level of such significance). 

    All this Watson speculation. What we might do in the draft at QB. What Darnold's worth on the trade market. This has all occured after the end of this season. We haven't really heard a whole helluva lot from Sam about hiw he's viewing all this.

  5. 34 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    All the Texans had to do was to live up to their word, interviewed Saleh or Bienemey, whoever it was that Watson was interested in.  They didn't have to hire him, they just had to interview them, make Watson feel like he was part of the circle.  No, they couldn't even do that.  

    Maybe, just maybe Watson feels like they didnt want a minority HC, that there there is some level of racism at play here. 

    They did interview Bienemey. They moved on to someone else, like a bunch of other teams did. Watson wants out, because he sees hard times ahead. They went 4-12. Have some rebuilding to do. When the going gets tough. Watson wants to jump ship. I think all the stuff about not being included in the hiring orocess is a bunch of bull.

  6. 7 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

    Every so-called doubter would find it “cool” to be proven wrong as well. I just want the Jets to have a top-notch starting QB; I don’t require the luxury of picking or discarding people from the mix for whatever other reasons (let alone because I have outed myself as having expressed doubts about this or that one). 

    No doubt competition can be a heavy (and necessary) motivator for some, but I don’t see a primary or secondary problem of Darnold’s as stemming from a lack of motivation. There haven’t been any leaks in 3 years that he’s dogging it in the weight room, missing meetings, not really knowing the playbook, or is giving only minimal effort because he’s had 100% job security with no competition. 

    Point well taken. Putting my self in his shoes, i'd be rather angry with the non stop speculation about QB''s coming in to take my job. Anger can be a great motivator.

  7. 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    What are you even talking about?  

    You brought up shot gun offenses and that Houston geared their offense around Watson as if that was a detriment.  

    I like Sam.  Hes not Watson.  Will never be Watson.  

    It was my fault for not being clear. The assumption is if Watson is in Miami, we don't have a chance in the division, with Allen also. I'm not buying in to that assumption. Watson is a very good QB. In a spread offense. I also don't by into absolutes about Watson can't be outperformed by a Darnold led offense. As far as Watson coming here, he isn't a fit in a WCO. So unless LaFluer changes his offense, that would be one more reason why he won't be here

  8. 25 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Wait an offense geared towards a QBs strengths is a problem?  Because?

    Mahomes isnt good because he runs a shotgun offense geared to his strengths too?

     

    I never said watson wasn't good. Did i. We're in complete agreement on Darnold. System fit is pretty important. As screwed up as the Texans sre, they tailored that offense for their QB . Now it's the Jet's turn, with Darnold or Wilson.. My point was for the first time Darnold is hearing about his job security. It could prove to be a motivating factor. Kinda cool to prove the doubters wrong.

  9. 1 hour ago, dcJet said:

    Strawman arguments abound.  I think over/under for most fans is 3 firsts.

    As much as I want Watson, I have a limit too.  I'll do four firsts or three and Q.

    Immediately, Watson makes everyone on the offense better and may attract a star FA who we couldn't sniff otherwise.

    Watson can play another 10-15 years. Two years from now, it will be a relief to talk about BPA in the draft instead of who the latest unprojectable QB took to the prom.

    Four firsts. Or three and Q. Now that's hilarious.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

    You really sound like someone just making stuff up off the top of his head.  QBs dont lead the league with a 4 win team because theyre on a team that tailors is offense to him.  By trading away his best WR.  Firing the coach who tailored the team and offense to his game.  

    I would, if gambling, and I'm a Darnold fan, gamble you would lose any bet that makes Darnold as productive as Watson.  The surer bet is that Watson still leads the league or is near the top as a NFL QB and Darnold isnt.  Thats the chalk bet.  

    The comment was Watson in the division would make Darnold play better.  Thats pretty much as funny a statement as you could make, one that makes the least amount of sense from any angle

    Type in google search bar Deshaun Watson shotgun offense. Big ESPN article on the Texans offense with Watson. Im not making anything up .

  11. 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

    You really sound like someone just making stuff up off the top of his head.  QBs dont lead the league with a 4 win team because theyre on a team that tailors is offense to him.  By trading away his best WR.  Firing the coach who tailored the team and offense to his game.  

    I would, if gambling, and I'm a Darnold fan, gamble you would lose any bet that makes Darnold as productive as Watson.  The surer bet is that Watson still leads the league or is near the top as a NFL QB and Darnold isnt.  Thats the chalk bet.  

    The comment was Watson in the division would make Darnold play better.  Thats pretty much as funny a statement as you could make, one that makes the least amount of sense from any angle

    I think when someone has been rumoured to be taking your job away, it can be a strong motivator. If Sam was a 27 yr old QB with limited abilities, i'd agree with you. From a physical standpoint, Sam has all the tools to be just as effective as Watson has been. It's his mental approach that needs grooming. Bill O Brian installed a spread, shotgun offense with the Texans to play to Watson's stengths. I'll try and post the article. And i said, i wouldn't gamble on it. Lol 

  12. 17 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    You think Watson to Miami would light a fire under Darnolds ass?  Thats been his problem?  His career,  a payday when the contract is due etc isn't enough to get him moving?

    Somehow putting a top QB in the league in our division is something we should hope for?  

    Watson is a very talented QB. He. Played for a team that tailor made the offense for his skillset. He played in a very weak division. I wouldn't gamble that 2 years down the road Darniold will be as effective with the Jet's as Watson would be with a Dolphin team. It's just not a sure thing as people seem to think it is. That is , with the Dolphins getting Watson, we would have no chance of competing with them or the Bills. Why we love the sport so much is that anything can happen, that before the fact we didn't think possible. Call me a starry eyed dreamer. Call me something worse. We're Jet fans. We have a very jaded view on anything positive that could occur.

  13. 9 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

    Unless we’re getting Watson, I’d also prefer to stick with Darnold and build up the rest of the roster.

    And I like the idea of Pitts in a trade down, but that’s if we make a move with Carolina dropping down to #8.

    If we’re just dropping back two spots, then grab Smith/Chase.

    Smith might be too much of a risk in that spot. Chase to me is what we hope we have in Mims. If we pick a receiver at #8, i think Waddle or Pitts would be our best choices. Just my opinion of course. Could be wrong. I don't have all the answers like a few people here, seem to think they have.

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  14. 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

    The best argument for adding an established athlete on the edge is that an absolute stiff like Jordan Jenkins got seven sacks in the defense, so imagine what a dude who can move laterally could produce. I don’t think a guy like Hendrickson would even hit the market on most teams, but the Saints are so screwed cap-wise they have no choice

    He would be a great signing. Have no idea why anybody would say otherwise. 

  15. 35 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    Yes because clearly the biggest problem with Sam Darnold is he isn't getting pushed enough.  As if the possibility of a $25M fifth year option and a massive 2nd contract aren't enough incentive.   

    What a mook.

    Your wrong all the time. Your the last person who should be calling anybody anything. Believe it or not, competition is a good thing. Has nothing to do with money. A lot of athletes are more interested in what they do as a player, and what they can accomplish on the field. On the field, he hasn't been pushed at all. This is according to you, because of the old men he had behind him. Flacco and Mccown.Still think Trevor is god. Mook.

  16. 22 minutes ago, bitonti said:

    the appeal of Trey Hendrickson is that Quinnen can be like Cam Jordan. He's a secondary dude he's not the dude. He's better than they've had in ages but it's a low bar 

    Very few can get the job done without help. Reggie Wbite had Jerome Brown. That was my argument with Leo. Went to the Giants, had Lawrence and Tomlinson taking the heat off him and he exploded.

  17. 14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

    Okay then.  That's fine to have an opinion - just as long as you agree that signing this guy will absolutely limit what we can do on offense.

    My opinion is all premium resources should be dedicated to offense over the next two years - go ahead and build your defense after you have an NFL caliber offense - which we haven't had in a decade. 

    You want a pass rusher.  Fair enough.

    Pass rusher's help the offense. Hendrickson will do just as much to help as a Will Fuller, would. Much less 3rd down conversions by the other teams offense. No.

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  18. 10 minutes ago, nycdan said:

    Well if that's your goal, then mono wasn't quite the right communicable disease.  Keep trying, Sam.

    Either Sam, as a QB, is what he is, or his play, and the play of the offense was a product of weak talent, and history making bad coaching. If it's the later, i expect some great rivalries over the next 5 years. Hopefully the AFC east doesn't beat the hell out of each other, so one of us can advance to the big game

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