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  1. 10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Outside of the horrid Pats game and Jags game Sam has played well.  There were more than just scrub teams included.  I know you can’t throw out those bad games but they need closer looks than just saying he sucked.  A lot falls on him but the OL was a huge contributor.  Can’t complete many or decisive passes on your ass.  Leaving the Jags game in, without the Pats his QB rating is over 100.  His comp % is where we all wanted it.  He’s decisive and accurate.  Mobile. Following up the same things over his last 4-5 games a year ago when over that time he was ranked the NFLs top QB.  With this OL, this depleted WR group he’s shown over and over why he was drafted 3rd.  Announcers keep saying just that

    Objectivity and especially fact based analysis sounds kind of weak here 

    precisely.  BB is a football genius.  Personally, I think he exposed a flaw in Sam's game that week.  after his 1st INT, they showed a graphic for Sam previously against the blitz.  I forget exact numbers, but he had 0 INTs, and a very good rating.  4 INTs later, and it messed with his head.  and I think it carried over into the Jags game (ghostbusters?), and to a lesser extent, even the fins game.  Thank God the vagiants are just a dumpster fire and he was able to get back on track!

    I think the comparison the Favre I saw ealier here is a great one.  take that throw to Robbie last week:  Sam has a TON of room to easily run for a 1st down, but instead throws a pinpoint pass JUST over the defender for a huge gain.  He took a chance; it paid off.  if the defender jumps an inch higher, EVERYONE is killing him for making a stupid decision when he could have run for an easy 1st down.  It's plays like that:  you have to accept the potential for the bad play in order to get the amazing play.

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  2. 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

    There has been nothing phenomenal about Daks play this season.  They’re a mediocre team right now that has benefitted by an easy schedule.  They play a good team, they lose 

    I agree, and think of it this way:  the Jets would only be 2 games out of a division championship if they were in the NFC East!  that says something!!

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  3. 9 minutes ago, rangerous said:

    true enough.  but even the good teams need to beat the bad teams to get to the playoffs.  so i wouldn't necessarily beating a bad team as some kind of put down to darnolds ability.  i seriously doubt they win the giants or redskins game with the like of falk or semian at qb.

    exactly!  as bad as those teams are, people forget that the Jets were UNDERDOGS in both games!!!  Let's not act like Sam is QB of the greatest show on turf here!  

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  4. 1 minute ago, Warfish said:

    I don't understand this kind of thinking.

    If (for example) we had really bad QB's most of our history, and we have, getting (for example) a slightly below-average QB does not convert that QB into an elite QB.  I get that after eating sh*t for years, even dog food might taste good, but that's a VERY subjective evaluation limited to those who ate the sh*t all those years.

    Darnold has shown great flashes and some periods of great play so far.  He is 100% worth investing around based on his play to-date.  He is also not "elite" or "special" or any of the other hyperbole some here at JN are using to describe him.  Not yet.  I don;t think it's a sin to compare him against the average NFL QB (he's below average still to-date), with an eye towards his potential future.  He doesn't need to be slathered with (as yet) unearned praise, or labeled with accolades he simply hasn't yet earned (elite accuracy, for example), to justify our faith and confidence in his potential and future.

    We should all be excited.  Let me Repeat:  WE SHOULD ALL BE EXCITED!  We should all be optimistic.

    My only objection is the excessive hyperbole.  Sam Darnold is not a top 5 QB today.  He can be in the future.  And we hope he will be.  

    NOBODY is saying top 5 QB.  Not that I have seen anyway.  But the CONSTANT beat downs...week...after week...after week.....it's nauseating!  I mean the kid has a great game, and all you hear on here is: "yeah well it's the giants".  He has 4 TD passes and it's: "yeah, BUT it was the redskins, AND he had a terrible INT".  Then  you figure he has a great game against a (then ) playoff team and there are still complaints!

    all this with a God-awful line (80% of which are not even the starters!), no Quincy, no herndon, etc.  again, I have never said top 5 QB, but it's almost like people on here are rooting AGAINST him!

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  5. I agree. For people like me (born in the 70s), SOJ is not a game like NE where we get blown out; SOJ is Jets BEATING team like the Pats one week, then losing the very next week to a team that has not won a game all year(I.e. Bengals). Jets NEED TO WIN these next two games!

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  6. I was dead wrong, and I admit I didn't think that the Jets could play as well as they did on offense.  Three games in a row now, amazing.
    For me, I am a Jets fan, so I was happy to see it happen, but I won't be making any Jets predictions, at least on this board, for the rest of this year.  I'm still happy we won. 

    Hey man you’ve been on the money in recent weeks, but am I happy you were wrong this week!

  7. Of the remaining five games, I just don't seen losing to the Bengals or Steelers. Most of that has to do with their QBs against Williams' defense. The Jets should beat the dolphins. Have a good chance against the Bills. And will have to play a perfect game to be the Ravens. 8-8 isn't bad considering how the season started, but makes those losses to the Bills, Browns and Dolphins that much more unforgivable. 
     
    Again, we've played the 27th, 28th and 29th ranked DVOA in defenses. But next week with the next two weeks bringing the 31st and 32nd, I don't expect the outcomes to be much different. 

    Wow. Way to poop in our Cheerios. Geez. Just friggin enjoy it!


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  8. 26 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

    Is is a decent indicator that they are improving.  We know the Giants and Redskins are two of the worst teams in the league.  Not much to learn from a win against that level of opposition.  We know the Raiders are in the middle of the pack and they have a good qb and a productive offense.  If they can manage a win against a decent team, we can conclude that the Jets are not the absolute dumpster fire that they appeared to be three weeks ago

    here we go.  it's amazing how a couple of weeks ago, the Jets are "the worst team in the NFL", and now they win back to back games, and people on here shrug there shoulders like: "so what?"  Now people like Villain are getting nervous that the Jets may actually beat the Raiders so now we are putting them in the "sucky team" category?  wow.  Really cannot believe this place sometimes.

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  9. 16 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

    Darnold throws 4 TD’s and Jet fans are examining interception rates to prove how bad he is. With one proclaiming that he’ll be on the hot seat next year. Too funny. 

    exactly.  I have a real hard time dealing with stupid people.  I need to work on that; it's why I visit this forum.....

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  10. 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Why is it that the Raiders didn’t destroy the Bengals, at home?  Haven’t destroyed anyone all year?  Not one single team, not even a winless 0-8 Bengals team?  I mean they’re great at every position, yet every win is a 1 score or less win.  

    these are the types of posts I want everyone to remember next week when the Jets win, Sam throws for 3 TDs, but has a pick and everyone on here kills him for it because "it was only the Raiders".

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  11. 14 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

    Keep talking nonsense.   Just because you keep repeating the same lie, means it’s going to change anything - make it true .    Another loss to the Raiders.

    What was the team that destroyed the Jets recently in the middle of the field.    Well it’s going to be much worse with the Raiders personnel.    Have ORoy RBs Josh Jacobs . Stud Rookie Fb Alec Ingold.  When you see either Rb Jalen Richard or Deandre Washington In the backfield there is a good chance they are coming in to be mismatches in the passing game.

    They have three Tes that are very unique- all can both block and catch .  ( Waller, Moreau , and Carrier) They can play all three Te’s at once.   Two Te’s formations with Waller, and Moreau  , with D Carrier as  h-back . ( very tough matchup problems)       While they don’t have a true number 1 Wr , they have nice array of Wrs. ( Tyrell Williams6’4 205 , Zay Jones , Hunter Renfrow - becomes bigger part of the offense every week ( third down specialist) M Ateman 6’4 220 - big physical Wr who very good run blocker also) 

    Raiders might have DRoy also Maxx Crosby seriously in the running to win that award too.( kids coming on every week- has chance to fatten up on the Jets  offense line) 

    I agree with this guy.  Antonio Brown is going to shred the Jets defense!

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    That's an awful lot of protectionism, excuse-making and fantasy theory-crafting here.  

    Only thing you left out was the converse "if Darnold was on the Ravens he'd be 9-1, if he were on the Pats he'd be 10-0".

    Darnold had a good game in what is, overall, a very poor year.  That is reality.  

     

    I'm not going to say 9-1 or 10-0, but he would be doing just fine on the Ravens.  and to even mention him and Brady in the same sentence is crazy.

    reality?  yes, it is a poor year.  a lot of us thought they may have a shot of making the playoffs.  then Sam got mono, CJ got injured, we realized we had a terrible o-line with no depth, AND lost 4 of 5 of the guys on that line, oh yeah and Bell isn't Bell.  but sure, the first thing I thought this morning when I woke up after a 2nd straight Jets win was: "damn Sam sucks.  wish we had Baker"

    that's it - you've convinced me.  we should get rid of Sam and tank for Tua!!


  13. 7 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    There are a number of other NFL teams just as bad (or worse), just as talent deficient and injured as our NY Jets. 

    Beating them is not a sign of greatness, especially after losing badly to other similar members of this group of failure franchises, like Miami.

     

    "greatness"???  who said anything about greatness?  holy crap  this has gotten out of control.  take Baker and Sam off their respective teams - the browns are head and shoulders better than the Jets (as presently constituted).

    put Lamar on the Jets - he's in a coma in the hospital with our o-line

    put Baker on the Jets - he's probably in jail for killing the Jets beat reporter for asking tough questions!

    but in all seriousness, people have to relax.  Sam has 4 of 5 O-lineman out, his #1 WR out for year, his best TE out for year, and Bell cannot get 100 yards rushing (or 100 yards TOTAL) in a game.  Jets beating anyone is impressive.


  14. 3 minutes ago, CTM said:

    You don't find it funny that a Jet fan is critisizing Baker for stat padding against bad teams in a thread celebrating Darnold who just stat padded against 2 bad teams?

    I sure as hell don't.  the fact that Sam can beat ANYBODY with that line and those "weapons" amazes me.  Griffin???  who?  Dan Brown?  didn't he write "The DaVinci Code" or "Inferno" or something?


  15. 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    You don’t have to do it. And this ranking is about more than Sam.  There are 4 other names.  And all these guys will be linked to each other so its strange to me that you’re surprised at this.  I think it will be interesting to look back one day and see how the rankings evolved over time.  

    I agree - one day.  but the pro-Sam people jump on with this after each win, and the anti-Sam guys do the same after a loss.  he looks real good.  let's get a team around him now and then maybe compare.


  16. 16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    Re-rank the 2018 QB class in order of who you'd want.  Below is my list.  I know it's controversial to not put Lamar as #1 but I still wouldn't trade Sam for him.  

     

    1) Sam Darnold

    2) Lamar Jackson

    3) Josh Allen

    4) Baker Mayfield

    5) Josh Rosen

    I cannot believe we are doing this...AGAIN....

    Lamar is playing out of this world, but that being said:  if he was on the Jets, he'd be in a hospital (probably in a coma).  and if Sam was in Baltimore, they'd probably win the SB.  

    I don't care who they play right now:  the fact that the New York Jets can beat ANYONE right now with that team they put on the field amazes me.

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