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  1. 26 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

    Is is a decent indicator that they are improving.  We know the Giants and Redskins are two of the worst teams in the league.  Not much to learn from a win against that level of opposition.  We know the Raiders are in the middle of the pack and they have a good qb and a productive offense.  If they can manage a win against a decent team, we can conclude that the Jets are not the absolute dumpster fire that they appeared to be three weeks ago

    here we go.  it's amazing how a couple of weeks ago, the Jets are "the worst team in the NFL", and now they win back to back games, and people on here shrug there shoulders like: "so what?"  Now people like Villain are getting nervous that the Jets may actually beat the Raiders so now we are putting them in the "sucky team" category?  wow.  Really cannot believe this place sometimes.

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  2. 16 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

    Darnold throws 4 TD’s and Jet fans are examining interception rates to prove how bad he is. With one proclaiming that he’ll be on the hot seat next year. Too funny. 

    exactly.  I have a real hard time dealing with stupid people.  I need to work on that; it's why I visit this forum.....

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  3. 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Why is it that the Raiders didn’t destroy the Bengals, at home?  Haven’t destroyed anyone all year?  Not one single team, not even a winless 0-8 Bengals team?  I mean they’re great at every position, yet every win is a 1 score or less win.  

    these are the types of posts I want everyone to remember next week when the Jets win, Sam throws for 3 TDs, but has a pick and everyone on here kills him for it because "it was only the Raiders".

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  4. 14 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

    Keep talking nonsense.   Just because you keep repeating the same lie, means it’s going to change anything - make it true .    Another loss to the Raiders.

    What was the team that destroyed the Jets recently in the middle of the field.    Well it’s going to be much worse with the Raiders personnel.    Have ORoy RBs Josh Jacobs . Stud Rookie Fb Alec Ingold.  When you see either Rb Jalen Richard or Deandre Washington In the backfield there is a good chance they are coming in to be mismatches in the passing game.

    They have three Tes that are very unique- all can both block and catch .  ( Waller, Moreau , and Carrier) They can play all three Te’s at once.   Two Te’s formations with Waller, and Moreau  , with D Carrier as  h-back . ( very tough matchup problems)       While they don’t have a true number 1 Wr , they have nice array of Wrs. ( Tyrell Williams6’4 205 , Zay Jones , Hunter Renfrow - becomes bigger part of the offense every week ( third down specialist) M Ateman 6’4 220 - big physical Wr who very good run blocker also) 

    Raiders might have DRoy also Maxx Crosby seriously in the running to win that award too.( kids coming on every week- has chance to fatten up on the Jets  offense line) 

    I agree with this guy.  Antonio Brown is going to shred the Jets defense!

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  5. 9 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    That's an awful lot of protectionism, excuse-making and fantasy theory-crafting here.  

    Only thing you left out was the converse "if Darnold was on the Ravens he'd be 9-1, if he were on the Pats he'd be 10-0".

    Darnold had a good game in what is, overall, a very poor year.  That is reality.  

     

    I'm not going to say 9-1 or 10-0, but he would be doing just fine on the Ravens.  and to even mention him and Brady in the same sentence is crazy.

    reality?  yes, it is a poor year.  a lot of us thought they may have a shot of making the playoffs.  then Sam got mono, CJ got injured, we realized we had a terrible o-line with no depth, AND lost 4 of 5 of the guys on that line, oh yeah and Bell isn't Bell.  but sure, the first thing I thought this morning when I woke up after a 2nd straight Jets win was: "damn Sam sucks.  wish we had Baker"

    that's it - you've convinced me.  we should get rid of Sam and tank for Tua!!

  6. 7 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    There are a number of other NFL teams just as bad (or worse), just as talent deficient and injured as our NY Jets. 

    Beating them is not a sign of greatness, especially after losing badly to other similar members of this group of failure franchises, like Miami.

     

    "greatness"???  who said anything about greatness?  holy crap  this has gotten out of control.  take Baker and Sam off their respective teams - the browns are head and shoulders better than the Jets (as presently constituted).

    put Lamar on the Jets - he's in a coma in the hospital with our o-line

    put Baker on the Jets - he's probably in jail for killing the Jets beat reporter for asking tough questions!

    but in all seriousness, people have to relax.  Sam has 4 of 5 O-lineman out, his #1 WR out for year, his best TE out for year, and Bell cannot get 100 yards rushing (or 100 yards TOTAL) in a game.  Jets beating anyone is impressive.

  7. 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

    What excuses this week though? He threw an ugly pick. Terrible throw. Dumb decision. Needs to learn when the play is dead. He threw it away two times afterwards. 4 touchdowns is cool too.

    we gotta get rid of this bum!  TANK FOR TUA!!

  8. 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    Well the only way to “one day” look back on this is to rank these guys at various checkpoints in time (like this post was doing). And I’ve been pro-Sam all along (even after the Patriot game) 

    yes but people on here get over-excited/over-critical WAY too easily!!

    (and I am pro Sam too)

  9. 3 minutes ago, CTM said:

    You don't find it funny that a Jet fan is critisizing Baker for stat padding against bad teams in a thread celebrating Darnold who just stat padded against 2 bad teams?

    I sure as hell don't.  the fact that Sam can beat ANYBODY with that line and those "weapons" amazes me.  Griffin???  who?  Dan Brown?  didn't he write "The DaVinci Code" or "Inferno" or something?

  10. 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    You don’t have to do it. And this ranking is about more than Sam.  There are 4 other names.  And all these guys will be linked to each other so its strange to me that you’re surprised at this.  I think it will be interesting to look back one day and see how the rankings evolved over time.  

    I agree - one day.  but the pro-Sam people jump on with this after each win, and the anti-Sam guys do the same after a loss.  he looks real good.  let's get a team around him now and then maybe compare.

  11. 16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    Re-rank the 2018 QB class in order of who you'd want.  Below is my list.  I know it's controversial to not put Lamar as #1 but I still wouldn't trade Sam for him.  

     

    1) Sam Darnold

    2) Lamar Jackson

    3) Josh Allen

    4) Baker Mayfield

    5) Josh Rosen

    I cannot believe we are doing this...AGAIN....

    Lamar is playing out of this world, but that being said:  if he was on the Jets, he'd be in a hospital (probably in a coma).  and if Sam was in Baltimore, they'd probably win the SB.  

    I don't care who they play right now:  the fact that the New York Jets can beat ANYONE right now with that team they put on the field amazes me.

  12. Just now, Jet Nut said:

    And he gets a ton of credit because he's not Eli.  

    yes that, and the fact that it's the vagiants!  I mean the Jets sneeze and they get criticized for doing it wrong.  the giants get all the excuses.  drives me crazy!  if I had to listen one more time last week about how their o-line was missing two guys, and then three, and how their WR and TE were out.....

    please.  Jets started with three o-line men out (then 4 when winters went down), our #1 WR (Enunwa) has been out forever, and Herndon is done for the year after playing like 12 snaps.  unbelievable.

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  13. 15 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

    Baker’s TD-INT is 11/12. His highest rated QBR this season? 105.2 ... With Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, OBJ, Landry, Njoku and the same offensive system he went into the season with last year. (Of course with some added vertical routes from Todd Monken)

    Sam Darnold’s TD/INT ratio is 11/10 in less played games with his highest QBR being 121.4 and his second highest QBR(113.8) is still higher than Baker’s season best. Like I said, he’s done it in less games played with less to work with, worst OL in the league and several game plans where L Bell and Robby A don’t even get included in the offense. Darnold is throwing to a 78 year old DT and Jameson Crowder. 

     

    please explain to me how in tf he is better. Baker hasn’t even throw 3 touchdowns in the same game this year. He definitely takes a back seat to Sam this season even with all the franchise turmoil, injuries and mono.

    listen I am not one of these Jets fans who has to hate on baker to make Sam seem better, but even the biggest Sam basher/Baker lover has to admit:  Baker has MUCH better weapons, o-line, RB etc.  Yes, I said RB.  if Bell was actually playing like he did in Pitt, I can confidently say Sam would be so much better.  and I'm not saying it's Bell's fault - our o-line is flat out bad!!  

    for people who think Sam is bad, and it's not our line, ask yourself this:  is Bell bad?  is it typical for him to go 10 games w/o a 100 yard rushing performance?  NO!  I do believe he has been hurt the past few weeks, but come on; that o-line is bad!!

    we have our QB; now let's get the necessary pieces around him, starting with the line.

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  14. 22 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

    Jones should lead Sam in a lot of categories, hes played more games.  

    And his offensive line is better than the Jets.  Seem to be better in pass protection and run blocking is much better.  

    You watched the Jets Giants game and came away thinking the Giants had less talent at WR than the Jets?  Did you watch?  Jones threw little passes, one 2 yards short of the OL, one a yard off the OL and both went the for big gains.  Padded his stats and points.

    I've watched Jones and I dont see a QB with the talent of Darnold.  Doesnt have the arm talent, isnt as accurate.  He'll be decent but has limitations.  

     

     

    100% agree.  how anyone can watch jones and think anything positive is beyond crazy.  somebody touches this kid and he fumbles!  it's crazy!!  and you said it perfectly:  one TD pass was 2 yards in backfield, and Tate did the rest (Jones gets credit), another our "wonderful" CB fell down and he had to dump off a 6 yard pass to a WIDE OPEN RECEIVER for a TD.  a 3rd one, vagiants were goal to go distance and he had 5 seconds (FIVE SECONDS)!!) to throw a TD pass.  but yeah their O-line is worse than ours!!!  Please.  before the Jets game, their o-line was ranked #5 in the NFL!!!  guess where the Jets o-line was ranked?

    the Jets sold out to stop Barkley. and they did.  they let Jones dump off rinkey dinkey passes all day.  thier WRs did the rest.  but wehn it came down to crunch time (last 20 minutes of the game) jones looked simply awful!!!  like he does every week!  the fact that the vagiants punted on 4th down WITH NO TIMEOUTS at the end of the game says a lot about jones IMHO.

    and let's be honest:  based on what I see on this board week in and week out with Sam, if jones was the Jets QB, he would be getting absolutely CRUCIFIED on this board!!!  

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  15. 17 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

    He can look bad at times, he can look very good at times. Even though QB’s take year two leaps, the kid is 22, has been playing QB for like 5 years, he was still a raw prospect albeit a very highly regarded one...this was always going to take time. We are still in the middle of the trials and tribulations of the youngest starting QB since the merger. He shot out 4 touchdowns and looked comfortable. He looked comfortable last week too. We just need to stack more and more games like these. I know the Redskins aren’t very good but they have a decent defense in place. Most importantly, Gase is finally putting Darnold on designed roll outs and the play calling aside from one or two head scratchers was solid today.

    Gase needs to continue to make the TE’s a part of the passing game because it helped Sam out a lot to have a in-line blocker as well as a receiving option in the same formation.

    very well said - as usual.

    But I agree with 90% of the people on this board, especially after events this past weekend:  Jets should just get rid of Darnold and continue "tanking for Tua".

    [obvious sarcasm]

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  16. 22 hours ago, Alka said:

    Damn, I was just going to say pretty much what you said in your reply.  The Jets are a different team right now, and not the team which lost to the Dolphins or the Patriots.  The Dolphins are not the same team that lost to Washington for the Redskins first and probably only win of the year. 

    The Jets offensive line is coming together right now, and the D line is coming together.  Offensive line is bad, but I believe is better than what we have seen so far this year.  The D line, now that we have established our players (minus Leonard Williams) has a chance to show what they will be going forward the rest of this year and next year.   Darnold will now be the quarterback that ended the season last year.

    Jets by 20 points today.  The Jets players said they will be going on a run right now, and they ain't lying!! 

    Before the season, I started a thread predicting the Jets will win 7 games this season, 8 if everything went perfectly with no major injuries.  Look it up if you like.

    Well, there have been major injuries.  Can the Jets go 5-2 to end up with 7 wins this year?

    I believe that they can, and I believe that they will.  Washington, Bengals, Dolphins, Steelers and would you believe it, Buffalo.  7 wins.

    I agree that they CAN...but next week is huge for that to happen.  Let's hope that whole "west coast team coming est for a 1 PM game" thing is legit - we need all the help we can get!

    If Jets win next week, they have a legit shot of being 6-7 before the Ravens game.  then just don't get embarrassed on a Thursday night game, end end with a couple of tough, but winnable games.  But yeah, key is next week.  all goes to crap if they lose to the Raiders.

  17. I think the horrendous blowout by the Patriots set the Jets back for several weeks, and they are only recovered as a team vs the Giants.  So I think the Jets beat the Redskins by double digits, with 20 points not being out of the question.

    Perfectly said. I’ve been saying this for weeks!

    Before that Pats game, against the blitz, Sam was “perfect”. Now what I mean with that is that he had zero turnovers. But hey, give BB his due. He found something, and exposed a big weakness for Sam (and ESPECIALLY our OL) and the very next week, Jags did the same thing. Fins did it to a lesser extent. Then you have the absolute moronic vagiants who are just God awful and did none of that and Sam did just fine.

    Again, what I have been preaching all year: it’s not WHO you play, but WHEN you play them. Sam just came back from mono, looked great against the Cowboys. Now you take that Pats game and move it to week 17, I sincerely think the Jets win in both FL games. Unfortunately, the mastermind found a big weakness and the next two teams piggybacked.

    Hopefully, that win last week has Sam back on track and we can go on a little run!
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  18. Agreed.  Though I will also predict SAR will act like it was a win (same as the opening game against Buffalo).

    Even at the beginning of the year when we thought our team had a chance at the playoffs, SAR had this game against the skins as a loss. I remember thinking they were awful, and how could he have us losing to them, but he stuck with it.

    Now I really hope he was wrong!
  19. This was the perfect example of how stats don't tell the whole story. Jets sold out to stop the run and QB had a fumble returned for TD, threw the ball up for grabs several times, and stunk his last 5 drives. 

    You nailed it right here. Amazing how the narrative last year was Sam and Saquon. Now that Saquon had an epically awful game, and Sam played well, no one talks about it.

    It was a great game plan by Williams: stop Saquon, and let the turnover machine go. If he beats us, kudos. But more likely than not, this guy will fumble. And that he did; three times!

    Just looking at how awful our CBs are, and how beatup our LBs are, I think it’s crazy that Jones didn’t do better!

    It’s the same story with him week in and week out. Look at the Pats game, the Cowboys game, etc. they hang around with these teams until like midway in the third quarter, but then when the game is on the line, he can’t handle it, makes awful mistakes, and the team gets blown out.

    Even against the Jets: the kid did absolutely NOTHING for the last 20 minutes! They had to punt on 4th down with ZERO timeouts and a little over 2 minutes left because of how delicate he is. God forbid he has a TO again......but these people giving him accolades for throwing a ball 2 yards BEHIND the line of scrimmage, and the WR takes it 65 yards for a TD,or when our wonderful CB falls down on a play and he throws an 8 yard pass to a wide open receiver.....geez
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