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  1. 21 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

    How can Jets solve cornerback crisis? 6 potential fixes for roster’s biggest weakness

    Updated 7:02 AM; Today 6:50 AM

    Joe Namath isn’t sold on Jets’ roster


    By Matt Stypulkoski | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

    There’s no question about it: Cornerback is the weakest link on the Jets’ roster right now.

    That was probably the case at the start of training camp, when everyone was fully healthy. But now that Trumaine Johnson and his replacement, Kyron Brown, are both injured, the team’s cornerback corps is in a full-blown crisis.


    Frankly, the Jets lack both top-end talent and quality depth at the position. Johnson is far and away their best corner. Darryl Roberts, who is playing across the field, is a major question mark as a first-time starter. And Brian Poole, the top slot corner, isn’t a surefire success, either. Then comes the backups, who have just a few hundred snaps of NFL experience – combined.

    So, clearly, general manager Joe Douglas has to figure out a way to add talent and fix this part of the roster in order for the 2019 Jets to really have a chance to thrive.

    Here are six possible ways that Douglas could upgrade at cornerback – via trades, free-agent signings, waiver-wire additions and more:

    Trade for Cardinals’ Patrick Peterson

    OK, sure, this may sound strange at first, considering Peterson has rescinded his offseason trade request and is suspended for the first six games of the year. But getting 10 games out of an elite cornerback is still better than none. Plus, Peterson’s contract runs through 2020, so this move would help the Jets for next season, too. So, if anything, the suspension would just help tamp down what would normally be an extremely high trade cost. The risk is that Peterson just turned 29, so the Jets would be getting a player past his prime. Plus, even with the six-game suspension, Douglas would likely have to give up a pretty decent haul to secure his services. It’d be a high-risk, but potentially high-reward, move for the Jets.


    Trade for Eagles’ Rasul Douglas

    The Eagles are absolutely loaded at cornerback, when healthy. That depth of talent means that Douglas is unlikely to have a big role on this team – despite being a 23-year-old former third-round pick with 30 games of experience over the past two seasons. All of those things add up to making him the perfect trade chip for the Eagles. From the Jets’ perspective, he’s a great fit because he’s young, but knows what he’s doing and is capable of being a starter. Plus, Joe Douglas is familiar with him from his time in Philadelphia; in fact, he played a key role in the team selecting him back in 2017. Again, this comes with a cost, because it’s a trade. But the Jets would also be getting a known quantity, instead of rolling the dice on some of the free agents who are still available for a reason.

    Sign Marcus Cooper

    The Lions just released Cooper on Monday in order to make room for a younger cornerback. The 29-year-old joined Detroit last season and played four games there, after appearing in two for the Bears. Frankly, Cooper wouldn’t be helpful in the starting lineup. But he’d at least provide experienced depth, which is something the Jets do not have at all right now. Cooper has 74 NFL games and 28 starts under his belt, which is far and away more than all of the Jets’ current backup CBs put together. For that reason alone, he could be a useful addition to the room.

    Sign David Amerson

    Amerson was a surprise cut at the end of OTAs. The Cardinals decided to let him go because they felt their other options were good enough to fill in for Peterson. But entering the spring, the expectation was that Amerson would help fill that void. So, the 27-year-old can’t be all that bad. He played six games and started five last season, after playing and starting six in 2017 for the Raiders, too. In 2016, he was a mainstay in the Oakland lineup, starting 15 games. He’s played 74 games and started 61. In other words, he could probably provide some competition for Roberts in that second cornerback spot. Or, at the very least, he could serve as a useful backup, in case injury strikes this unit again come the regular season.

    Wait for Browns/Eagles/Bengals competitions to wrap up

    We already mentioned that the Eagles are deep at corner. The Browns and Bengals both seem to be in the same boat. So, odds are that some, if not all, of those teams will make some cuts at cornerback once training camp wraps up. If Joe Douglas stays patient, he may be able to scoop up some of the leftover talent off waivers or the free-agent market. This strategy comes with some risks, though; there’s a chance that other teams could beat the Jets to the punch, either with a better waiver priority or more lucrative contract offer. Plus, the talent available could be more back-end worth, as opposed to some of the names on this list so far, who could either serve as starters or decent backups.

    \Move Jamal Adams

    Adams said Monday that he’s confident in the Jets’ current cornerbacks to get the job done. But He also said that he’d happily move to cornerback, if asked.

    To be clear, we don’t expect the Jets to slide their Pro Bowl safety into a different role anytime soon; his ability to get in the box and make plays in the backfield is too valuable to sacrifice, at least for right now. But, Adams has proven to be a very good coverage safety, so it isn’t the craziest idea, if the Jets can’t find the proper outside talent to get the job done. The biggest issue with this plan? Having to insert Rontez Miles back into the starting lineup alongside Marcus Maye. This unconventional move would work a lot better if the Jets were deeper at safety.

    • I was lobbying for Peterson before someone in another thread pointed out the suspension. To brutal of a first 6 games and age make me want to pass on this deal. If we were one piece away like some of these contending team, it might be worth it. 
    • Love the Rasul Douglas trade, 2020 4th rounder gets it done? Or do we have to potentially move a 3rd?
    • Any other year other than 2014 I would say to stay away from David Amerson knowing what he is, this year, bring him int to compete, why not?
    • Waiting and being patient probably the smart move, its New York though, Tru goes down Monday and we expect someone in here by Monday night 😂
    • Please don't **** with Jamal lol 
  2. 7 hours ago, varjet said:


    I am having a tough time believing that Derrick Jones was worse than the other guys on the roster. 

    I too was rooting for Jones due to his size and speed and our need for man to man corners. Sometimes you just have to trust that the coaching staff who is around him during practice. It seems like he couldn’t get any playing time due to poor practice play.

    With Bowles he couldn’t get off the bench til week 16 on a garbage year. Now I tend to believe to just throw him in anyway and see what he can do. But even in that year, it wasn’t like he was flashing in practice. This new GM/coach has zero ties to Jones so it was important for him to have an impressive camp and preseason. He flashed in previous preseasons but again I think this player has poor work ethic or something in that range to have Greg Williams pull the cord on him after just one pretty bad preseason game. 

    I’m hoping this position is like the center one. Every day we thought JD had no plan to address that position and just to roll the dice. He ended up having a plan. 

    We are third on the waiver wire and the guy has some contacts in this league. I see an overhaul at this position to make it competitive. Not sure we are going to see a great player come out of no where or retirement but we sit third on the wire and teams haven’t really even started making major moves. 

  3. 5 minutes ago, Lith said:

    I think this is the type of situation that gives us an idea of what Douglas/Gase really think about the team's chances to win this season.  If Tru's injury is serious, thay have to go out and get a solid CB on the trade market; regardless of the cost: player, pick or both.  But only if they think we are set to contend.

    If they think the team is about Sam's development and we are still a year from contention, then you manage with what we got, add an exprienced guy or two who get cut in a couple of weeks, hope for the best and conserve resources to go all in next season.

    It may be one thing to listen to what these guys say in pressers, but their actions tell a lot more of what they are thinking.  Kiinda like when they added Kalil despite telling us how confident they were in Harrison all pre-season.

    1. Coty Sensabaugh
    2. Sam Shields
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  4. 12 minutes ago, varjet said:

    Except maybe the Cardinals.  A Peterson for Leo move probably has more potential.  Peterson is better than Leo, but older.  

    This makes sense as well due to the lack of depth at DL for the cardinals and the depth they have at corner. They would have to throw a bag at Leo this year though. No way you give up Patrick Peterson, play this season and try to pitch Leo not to go somewhere else in FA. 

  5. 9 minutes ago, Greenbloodblitz said:

    I did say realistically... could we find two or three second-tier players for Leo and a 2nd?

    What ever team looking at Leo knows he is on the last year of his deal. He is basically a one year rental, or a trade and sign kind of player. Not sure how many teams still have that kind of cap in need of a player like Williams.

    That means you have to give up draft capital for a guy who can potentially leave in FA next year. 

    All off season depth has been a concern at corner, its no surprise we are in this mess with Johnson's injury history last year. I don't think because Tru goes down you react with trading away a team captain. I understand there is a need for corner and you might have to give a pick up a pick in next year's draft for a stop gap vet for this year, but unless its a player like Ramsey, which is highly unlikely, roll the dice with Leo this year with this coaching staff. 

  6. 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

    Tom Coughlin wants him gone and you throw in a draft pick if you have to. 

    With this being Leo's last year on his contract, you would basically be giving up draft capital for a one year rental on a player that you are going to have to pay big now or next year to avoid losing him in FA.

    Henry Anderson maybe ? lol  

  7. 11 minutes ago, Bomberjet said:

    The rashest, lamest move in my mind was ridding of D. Lee for a 6th rounder. Gase  should have kept him . He would have thrived with the  defense, in camp at the least,  and would have made perfect trade bait for CB, imo. 

    I'm starting to questions Gase's methods - he's acting too irrational and those smelling salts make a case for his head not thinking straight.


    I agree we should have held on to Lee longer but not until camp. It would have been nice to see what JD could have done with him. Not sure what corner on the trade block would make Lee perfect trade bait but who knows? how much more than a 6th we would have gotten, just sucks its the chiefs, basically makes it a 7th. 

    Yes Gase can act irrational at times and might be a nut for the smelling salts (which for some odd reason I love) but he was put in a rare or unique situation with the GM getting fired at the time he did and became the interm GM, which we saw in MIA, isn't his best quality. With JD in place and the front office we built around him, Gase should just basically be just coaching up Sam and the offense while being good at in game time management and roster decisions.

    2 late round picks for 2 jags < Joe Douglas and Front office. Take it for what it is, without Gase, not sure JD is here today. 


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  8. 10 hours ago, GREENBEAN said:

    Yeah who knows?  I heard he appealed but don't know how it all works. 

    Ok cool yah I just found that article about the appeal. Thanks ! 

    It’s saying they gave him 4 instead of 2 because the woman at the scene claimed bodily harm due to the crash. 

    If he can return week 3 for the patriots and then follow that up with our week 4 bye, that would feel way less crushing. 

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  9. 9 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

    He’s a tough guy to lose man. I’m
    Still hoping he can appeal the suspension down to two games. Is that even still a real possibility?

    For him to do that Herndon would have to schedule a meeting with the NFL to hear his request for a reduced suspension. I haven’t heard or read of any meeting being scheduled.

    The crash and wreckage is actually really bad but I feel like he doesn’t do that bad on his field sobriety 🤷🏻‍♂️ but I guess once there is video evidence not sure what he can argue or leverage for a reduced suspension


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  10. 3 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

    Watching the first team offense last night was something i wasn’t quite used to seeing being a jets fan. Gase is extremely creative with his formations. Shot gun formation every play, 3 wide to one side of the field, using RPO a lot of the time. I can’t wait to see what it’s going to look like when Le’Veon is inserted into this. What’s the ceiling for this offense this year? Top 10? Top 5?

    For only adding a couple installs we looked on top of it play calling wise. We even went up tempo using a no huddle approach on the third and 2 touchdown. Not only is it no huddle, but they do a designed roll out with Darnold to the right and Crowder was wide open. 

    I found my self day dreaming about Bell being in there as well while watching the game but man, Ty Montgomery is going to have a huge role in this offense. There will be a lot of packages where you will see him and Bell on the field at the same time. From the pass defensive side of it, that has to be frustrating. It will be easy for Darnold to see the weak linebacker coverage and exploit it. 

  11. 2 minutes ago, nycdan said:

    Maybe the plan is to convert all of our 3rd downs so we don't need FGs?

    That plan sounds insane to me lol 

    Would be cool to see a coach come in the league and just say **** it, anything 4th and 5 and under and we are going for it and live or die by that. 

  12. I am on board with wanting Jason Myers back just not at 4 million a year. I don't see it as the jets "cheaping out". Assuming we bring in one of these veteran kickers any day now, I don't think the drop off will be significant if Jason Myers were in there from that veteran kicker. Sure you cant attempt as many 50+ yard kicks as if Myers were in, lets hope we don't have to even do that this year. 

    Bring in a guy who can consistently hit PAT's and 40 yard kicks. Pay him 1 million per year, the drop off from Myers to that kicker shouldn't be huge if used correctly.

    Saving 3 million with walking from Myers and another 3 million from Roberts is a smart move. Replacing them with Chandler Catanzaro not so much.

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  13. 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said:

    All I see is our OL blows. :)   KO is an animal by the way.  Shell is not. 

    Winters gets pushed back far on this play. Shell  gets beat on the edge but when his guy breaks free he runs into Brian Winters and his mess lol. Dude is blocking by just being i the way 😂. In all seriousness though Darnold has great feel to when to move in the pocket. This is just another great example on how he feels pressure from his right side and steps up at the perfect time to make the play. 

    Really gonna miss Herndon these first 4 games. Guy just has great awareness against cover defense and knows exactly how to find the open spot. Runs up the middle and just keeps falling back about 10 yards until the linebacker stays in his zone and leaves him. He just does it so naturally and on third down. He is a perfect fit for Darnold on extended and scrambling plays, keeping his eyes with the quarterback and moves in what ever direction Sam scrambles. 

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  14. 13 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

    Top 10 Roster Battles to Watch

    (Only 1 of each pairs will likely make the team)

    1. Frank Luvu vs Harvey Langi OLB (Extremely unlikely both make the final roster - IMHO, the #1 battle on display tonight)
    2. Davis Webb vs Luke Falk QB #3 (If we even keep 3 QBs)
    3. Daniel Brown vs Ryan Griffin TE (1 probably gone when Herndon returns)
    4. Tim White vs Greg Dortch WR/KR  
    5. Ben Braden vs Alex Lewis "9th" OL (If we keep 8 OLs, both could be gone, if we keep 9, one will likely make it)
    6. Kyron Brown vs Parry Nickerson CB (possible both could make it, but I doubt it)
    7. Bilal Powell vs Elijah McGuire RB (1 or the other will be gone )
    8. Foley Fatukasi vs Bronson Kaufusi DL (5 Defensive Linemen seem set - LW, QW, SM, HA, NS - if we keep a 6th, it will probably be Foley or Bronson)
    9. Brandon Bryant vs Godwin Igwebuike S (Neither might make it, but 1 or the other will have a leg up after the Giants game, especially if Maye is out for an extended period)
    10. Wyatt Miller vs Calvin Anderson OT (Neither is going to make the 53 man roster - this is a battle for a spot on the Practice Squad - does either one seem to have real potential?)

    Is Alex Lewis playing tonight? I thought he was inactive due to lack of practice time. 

    I feel like Luvu might even lose a roster spot to Cashman. Does he play outside lb? 

    Is there a 0% chance Trent Cannon gets a roster spot. My guess is we cut him, does have great speed though. Maybe a PS player this year. 

  15. 57 minutes ago, Legend Killa7 said:

    I agree but what if the ones go three and out?  on't want that bad taste in you mouth, especially against that bad Giants D....

    I expect a very vanilla approach with the offense only installing a few installs at this stage. However, a play action bomb to Robby Anderson would be fun to watch on the first preseason game! Almost would be worth the three and out lol 

  16. 5 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

    Probably only get two drives from Darnold and the starting offense before it’s time to see what Dortch and Tim White look like in live action.

    You think they give him 2? I could see us getting the ball first and giving Darnold one drive for this game and that’s it. 

    With Bell out, the rb position will be interesting to watch. Who gets more touches, Cannon or Eli ?

    Jachai Polite coming out party ?

    Tom Compton, Edoga, Harrison. Really hoping we can see come great play from the back ups this preseason. 

    Rontez Miles with the ones ?!? Sheeeesh

    is Cashman the real deal?

  17. 1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

    Opening day against the Bills is HUUUUGE.  If we don't win that game I can envision a very slow start.

    Lol it almost like saying week 1 is a "must win game" which its not, but I do agree it's huge being a divisional game at home.

    The first 6 games are difficult but there are definitely some pros to the way the schedule is set up for it. 

    • 4/6 are home games
    • Both away games (NE and PHI) are very close to home. 
    • Bye week in week 4, giving us extra time to prepare for Philly
    • 3 out of 6 of our game are divisional games, we are used to playing these teams and should play better
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  18. 2 minutes ago, JiF said:

    That's why I was so high on going after Golden Tate (granted not knowing he'd get suspended), Sam needs to have that trust with at least 1 guy.  Hopefully him and Anderson can continue to build on the chemistry they had last year and Crowder can be his snuggle bunny.  The good news this year is if Enunwa goes down, we're not running an Andre Roberts type out there who provides nothing in the receiving game. 

    You think this might entice JD to bring in maybe ...

    1. Michael Crabtree
    2. Pierre Garcon
    3. Mike Wallace 

    Or take a shot on a guy like Martavis Bryant? 

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