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  1. 5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

    I stated this weeks ago:

    #4 - best olineman in the draft

    #10 - best wr in the draft

    #35 - best te in the draft

    #38 - best rb in the draft

    Almost agree with you. There really isn’t a RB in this draft we need to take at 38 that we can’t get something similar much much later. Therefore, 35 or 38 I would go defense and take one of the 2nd tier edge guys.

  2. 45 minutes ago, Phillyjet said:

    The Jets have such a long way to go to even be competitive, it's crazy.  QB play, defense, playmakers. The gap is wide. Very wide.

    You might want to rethink defense. It was non-existent at the end of the bills game. They let a team, starting from their own 25 with 13 seconds left, get a FG. Amazing.

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  3. 2 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

    That's not how it works in the NFL...as a GM you are accountable for your picks and it's on your ledger....you don't get to blame the coach that got his walking papers. 

    He got it wrong. He got a lot wrong in 2020 draft. So what? Many teams passed on Davis. 

    JDs career is tied to wilson and the 2021 draft class. If he gets the upcoming draft/FA right and wilson makes some strides, only losers will continue to harp on 2020 failures. If he gets it wrong, everyone that hates JD will revel as he's fired at the end of the year. Either way, this will be settled soon.

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  4. 2 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said:

    Good question.

    Here is a list of the last 30 picks taken #4 overall.  A pretty interesting mix of Hall of Fame type player, very good multiple brawl bowl types and others.

    I’d use a Former Jet on this list as a pretty good measuring stick.  Brick’s career at #4 is a good pick.  Dewayne Robertson not so much.

    2021 Kyle Pitts Falcons 1 4 4 TE Florida
    2020 Andrew Thomas Giants 1 4 4 T Georgia
    2019 Clelin Ferrell Raiders 1 4 4 DE Clemson
    2018 Denzel Ward Browns 1 4 4 DB Ohio State
    2017 Leonard Fournette Jaguars 1 4 4 RB Louisiana State
    2016 Ezekiel Elliott Cowboys 1 4 4 RB Ohio State
    2015 Amari Cooper Raiders 1 4 4 WR Alabama
    2014 Sammy Watkins Bills 1 4 4 WR Clemson
    2013 Lane Johnson Eagles 1 4 4 T Oklahoma
    2012 Matt Kalil Vikings 1 4 4 T USC
    2011 A.J. Green Bengals 1 4 4 WR Georgia
    2010 Trent Williams Redskins 1 4 4 T Oklahoma
    2009 Aaron Curry Seahawks 1 4 4 LB Wake Forest
    2008 Darren McFadden Raiders 1 4 4 RB Arkansas
    2007 Gaines Adams Buccaneers 1 4 4 DE Clemson
    2006 D'Brickashaw Ferguson Jets 1 4 4 T Virginia
    2005 Cedric Benson Bears 1 4 4 RB Texas
    2004 Philip Rivers Giants 1 4 4 QB North Carolina State
    2003 Dewayne Robertson Jets 1 4 4 DT Kentucky
    2002 Mike Williams Bills 1 4 4 T Texas
    2001 Justin Smith Bengals 1 4 4 DE Missouri
    2000 Peter Warrick Bengals 1 4 4 WR Florida State
    1999 Edgerrin James Colts 1 4 4 RB Miami (FL)
    1998 Charles Woodson Raiders 1 4 4 DB Michigan
    1997 Peter Boulware Ravens 1 4 4 DE Florida State
    1996 Jonathan Ogden Ravens 1 4 4 T UCLA
    1995 Michael Westbrook Redskins 1 4 4 WR Colorado
    1994 Willie McGinest Patriots 1 4 4 DE USC
    1993 Marvin Jones Jets 1 4 4 LB Florida State
    1992 Desmond Howard Redskins 1 4 4 WR Michigan
    1991 Mike Croel Broncos 1 4 4 LB Nebraska

    30 years and only 2 DBs. Yet every mock has Kyle Hamilton or Derek Stingley to the Jets. Unless you’re telling me one of these guys will be Charles Woodson, I don’t want to see this crap anymore.

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  5. I just can’t see a DB in round 1. It would be such a departure from everything JD and Saleh have done, a complete 180.

    If Thibs is there, he will 100% be the pick. If the worst thing we can say about him is he’s a bit of a know it all jerk, I’m good with that. The best athletes of all time were jerks: Brady, Rodgers, MJ. It’s just how they’re wired.

    I do like the idea of Ekwonu, however, not if Thibs is there at 4. Doubt he falls to 10 but I do feel like a good OL will be available at 10. Cross if want Becton insurance, Green if you looking for a guard that has enough versatility to play tackle.

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  6. 1 hour ago, rangerous said:

    i hope douglas is also amenable to trading down from the 4 pick.  i don't know the college players but from what i've read it seems like moving back a couple of spots isn't going to mean much.  but trading the 4 pick for a lower first rounder and then one for next draft will keep that cupboard full. obviously if there guy is there at 4 they need to just pick him and be done with it.

    I think Douglas has shown he's open to anything if the value is right. 

    As far as maneuvering in the draft and with players on the roster to create additional assets, he's the best jets gm I've seen in my lifetime in that respect. 

  7. The fact that he’s been working with the nutritionist since the injury and he’s still drawing the ire of the coaches is not a promising sign.

    If I’m him, I go into F the world mode and come in at 330lbs to prove all the haters wrong. But that’s just me, not sure if the kid has the drive. He’s a good kid and ultra talented player, hope he pulls it off and makes everyone eat their words (pun intended).

  8. 10 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

    FWIW, given the uncertainty with Becton I think it's much likelier that we grab a G/T swing type guy in the first (Neal at 4, Ekwonu at 10) than a C. If Becton comes back healthy and looks good, you can set the OL as Fant-AVT-McGovern-Neal/Ekwonu-Becton for 2022 and then (depending on how comfortable you are with Becton/Neal at LT) let Fant walk in 2023 or extend Fant, run that same thing back in 2023 and let Becton walk as a FA with Neal/Ekwonu kicking out to RG. 

    If you use that pick on a C like Linderbaum, you're basically betting everything on Becton coming back strong at RT and then either being able to handle LT long term. 

    Of course, FA could change all of this if, for example, we sign Moses for a few years or pick up someone else, but with the roster as it stands now, I don't think Douglas accepts that level of uncertainty at RT and long term LT.

    Totally agree. I'd add green in the mix too.

  9. @Doggin94it, all valid points.

    With McGovern, OP believes in his talent strongly enough to cut McGovern. While that a huge risk/questionable move, there certainly is value to adding a young center that can grow with zach. You can't downplay the center/qb relationship, the 2 guys that touch the ball every snap.

    That said, if that's your plan, you must take linderbaum at 4 if you cut McGovern. You can't risk that he'll fall to 10. Which means your draft and plans get screwed up.

  10. 2 hours ago, bostonmajet said:

    I haven't actually seen smoke, I have only heard some blow hards who 'know things' and 'hear things'.  I have also seen where there is no media input, media will make up stories or listen to unreliable sources. They may be 100% correct. Even so, it doesn't make Becton lazy.

    These are some of the same people calling ZW out as selfish by sneaking it on 4th and 2. There was no body talking, so the media made stuff up, which forced the coaches to speak up.

    How many times has the media created smoke only to find out there wasn't really a story? yes, they could be right, but they could be wrong. I am hoping for wrong, but they could be right.

    Dude. His coach called him out. On TV. In front of a live audience. Lafleur and Saleh.

    This isn't media making sh*t up.

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  11. 21 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

    LOL - some of these posts. Let's examine what was said.


    1. "sources with knowledge" - really - are we going to take anything he says after that seriously? If we are see #2.

    2. the knee did not heal as quickly as they had hoped - okay, again assuming this guy isn't making up the story, he had legitimate setbacks. but hey...

    3. because he was unable to work out, or re-hab, he put on weight - so, it wasn't that he didn't want to rehab or chose not to - and if you believe this guy he put on weight (which was an issue he has had in the past).


    Now, even if you were to listen to and believe this guy - where did he say that Becton was LAZY. Again, if we he is saying with his phantom sources, he couldn't work out or re-hab do to the knee not progressing fast enough; as a result, he put on weight and now he has to not only rehab the knee (which is harder to do with the extra weight) but he has to get back into shape. To be fair, if his knee needed extra healing time, even if he didn't put on weight, it would take longer to get back into shape. He also said that the jets hoped that he would be ready physically and mentally - could it be that his knee is healed, but he doesn't trust it as the last time he was put in injured, the injury got worse?

    But yeah, soft sources and never called him lazy, but hey...

    Here's the deal. I've been a fan of this team and of football in general for a long time. In that time, I learned not to buy rumors and sources. However, I also learned where there is significant smoke, there is at least some fire. 

    With Becton there is significant smoke. You don't need to be an insider to see it. His coaches have alluded to issues, his teammates have alluded to issues. Chances are, they guy has some issue. Is it as cut and dry as "he's fat and lazy"? I dunno, but there's clearly something wrong here. To deny that is delusional. 

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  12. 51 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said:

    Question for the class: 

    Would you trade a 2nd round pick, and swap #4 for #7 (ATL) for Calvin Ridley?

    Does your opinion, or compensation change if Kayvon Thibadeaux somehow slips to #4? 

    I would do that but I need some strong assurances about his mental health. I don't think there is any chance JD trades either 4 or 10 straight up for him.

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