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  1. 12 hours ago, Mogglez said:

    True, but the Buffalo defense has shown through three games that they are better than last year, which is pretty damn impressive. We, also, needed our kicker to make one of the missed kicks and we're not even discussing week one as a loss.

    Conjecture. If the kicker makes the extra point it's a tie score. Even if he makes all his kicks the Jets are up 3 points - possible Buffalo still surmounts that deficit.

  2. 12 hours ago, Mogglez said:

    I almost never agree with Bob because he can be an insufferable homer, but there's nothing I can disagree with here.

    This will be the fifth time I've asked this forum to give me the name of a coach that can work with the circumstances and roster blows that Gase has had to deal with, while also playing 2 of the 3 best defenses in the league and a 3rd defense that is, also, very good.  I haven't gotten a single name.

    If we still look this bad against the softer part of our schedule, with Sam, Mosely, Quinnen, and DT healthy, then we can have a further discussion on where the team goes next at HC.  Until then, it's pointless because no one can succeed under these conditions.

    Belichick, Andy Reid, McVay, Payton, Doug Pederson, Arians, others I'm not thinking of.

    If you've asked your question 5 times they probably stretch back to Week 2 and maybe week 1. So: I'd bet my house these coaches would have had the Jets offense produce much more with Darnold & Siemian at QB. Because that's the major pivotal position among any slew of injuries - QB.

    Otherwise we've all seen teams like the Pats and others absolutely decimated by injury yet still put up enough offense to attain 11-5 and 12-4 type seasons. 

    The fact is the Jets offense was historically inept at home through almost 6 quarters of Darnold and Siemian. During that period, a competent head coach-OC has his o-line playing much better as a unit, utilizes the weapon that is arguably the best all-around RB to the advantage of the entire offense, and bottom line finds ways to put up some points.   

    Good, competent coaches get their teams to perform in spite of "circumstances." With bad, incompetent coaches there's always excuses until there aren't anymore. 

    Now, I will grant basically no offense succeeds over time with a 3rd-string QB. So Gase and his putrid offense gets a partial pass the past 6 quarters with Falk at the helm. But as you say once Darnold returns, the bullseye is ever more on Gase's back.

    In football and life, we all know underachievers who don't produce with an always ready excuse. Whereas the winners simply win no matter what circumstances they're faced with.

  3. In places like our next opponent - one bad play is a failure. Read the recent online Men's Health mag profile of Tom Brady - this man grinds as hard as any other human being I've ever heard of in any discipline. Because his standard is being the last one standing. 

    That's my standard, too. I think it's the desire of most of us in here and the Jets. But are they doing the things to get them there? Is their head coach/offensive coordinator?

    I get it: even I am semi considering giving Gase a pass due to Maccagnan's ineptitude. Then again, I am not.

    Each game is upwards of 6% of the season and represents an enormous swing win or lose. 6% = 10 losses in a baseball season and by definition 10 losses in a row. Does anyone think that isn't a huge swing in a baseball season? Does anyone think this incessant 3 & out machine this Jets offense is, scoring 11 points total over 8 quarters - is anywhere near any kind of standard? Other than the standard of being one of the most futile scoring offenses in modern NFL history through two games?

    If my negativity rubs some the wrong way, so be it. I like to win and win now - as Parcells did with us in '97 after Kotite's 4-28. A former boss of mine who as a very young man was a huge business success through sheer willpower, hard work, and brain power man once remonstrated to me when I asked about stock options in his company: "I like to focus on results." Meaning: perform, and then we'll see.

    Results say it all. The second in life you start making excuses is the second you are BS'ing yourself. 

    Our next opponent doesn't abide excuses - does Gase? Publicly and outwardly sure he doesn't. But his results don't match up to his mouth and they haven't for more than 2 years now. In the NFL that's a lifetime. 

    I hope Gase proves me wrong, I really do. I'll happily admit to being the first one wrong if so. But as another successful person aka as my father once told me: one of the biggest mistakes he made in business is holding on to a losing strategy well after its expiration date. Gase's expiration date is nearing for me - for that week 1 offensive fiasco alone. 

    *Remember: Gase walked in to this job with everything to prove and nothing proven as a HC.* He'd been a recent failure offensively with everything to prove. Thus far he has proven nothing to me on that side of the ball.

  4. Zero problems both times I entered.

    I enter early though - at least 1 hour before kick off.

    First week it was the Bud Light gate. Second week I think it was my home Pepsi gate.

    Same result: utter poopoo offensively.

    Defense has without a doubt held up it's end of the bargain. Not least having a suspect edge rush, CBs and being on the field seemingly non stop. Good for them. And good for Ficken.

    Gase's Offense including Gase: we're 2 games in to the season, where is your heart? 

  5. Gase is a slick talker. He says all the right things publicly. And he can be funny and engaging.

    But he doesn't coach his offense like he talks. He talks about wanting aggressive, relentless, tireless players - I've seen none of this from his offense 2 weeks in to what will be has last opportunity as a NFL HC. He's OC'ing like some spawn of former Jets OCs Paul Hackett and Brian Schottenheimer when they were with the Jets. Those two coached in a particular and maddening way: they saw the field in only 10-yard increments, and there was rarely consistent ryhthm or flow keeping opposing defenses off balance. It was the very definition of plodding, 3 & out, crap OC'ing.

    That's what I've seen from Gase so far.

    And so that is the Gase riddle: how does this guy keep getting touted, get another HC job, when he keeps failing miserably? I think it's the Manning/other recommendations cologne he somehow still gives off, and that he's convincing talker, he talks the game, says all the right things. No doubt that's what he did in his Jets HC interview process.

    But when you combine that with zero positive results you have what I fear he is: a charlatan. 

    I'm hoping like Schotty 2.0 with Seattle he improves next year - if there is a next year for him. For Darnold will return, and if the Jets offense is still beyond putrid in the latter half and 1/3 of the season - I could see Chris Johnson axing him. It'd be an enormous admission of a mistake on his part, but that alone could be part of why he'd do it.

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  6. Yes perspective coming from me may seem laughable. But I'm relatively sane sometimes.

    Hope:

    1) Former Jets OC Brian Schottenheimer who's Jets coaching I once loathed, is leading a revitalized Seahawks offense. I've begun loathing Gase's offensive coaching similarly. But perhaps once he has more talent to work with particularly at o-line, he too proves competent.

    2) Joe Douglas. I think over time, his presence will equate to a perennial Jets contender. Perhaps next year but more likely beginning in 2020 as others have pointed out.

    Perspective:

    1) As my friend's little league coach told him long ago, after a rough at bat cost his team the game: there's a billion in people in China who just don't care. Same with our Jets plight. 

    2) The Jets sucking frees up our Sundays more, as masochism can get old fast.

  7. I remember my older brother got mono back when he was in high school. And it sounded like and I think I've heard since - you get it from making out with chicks.

    Good job, Sammy lad! 

    I only wish the Jets could do their job and do right by you. We're 1.2 years in to an affordable QB contract, so far it's gone to waste in terms of maxing out that cap opportunity like the Eagles and Rams did recently.

    This said Siemian can make some things happen with a great, non fearball game plan. 

    C'mon Gase! Go all out on offense, run Bell in to the ground and let's shock the world on MNF!

  8. 18 hours ago, NYJ1 said:

    In all of this criticism the players and the GM are getting, Gases role in this debacle is being ignored. Gase was downright awful yesterday. No imagination, no adjustments or too little too late, ZERO attempts to go long, why not throw more screens when you're getting blitzed to death, why didn't Sam get coached up to stop trying to throw over tall defensive lineman that haven't been blocked? His halftime adjustments worked for the Jets only TD of the afternoon but was quickly adjusted to by the superior HC yesterday in Sean McDermott.

    Now I don't want to come across like the guys posting here that think the sky is falling after one game, but objectively Adam Gase was no better than Todd Bowles yesterday.

    Precisely.

    I held a glimmer of hope Gase's abysmal OC performance in Miami resulted from a crap QB situation among other factors. Thus I wasn't at all surprised by his garbage offense Sunday. Offensive.

  9. I thought similarly earlier today: 

    QB Sam Darnold took the blame for the offensive struggles, saying, "I think we just couldn't really get into a rhythm and I put that on myself." He wasn't sharp. He was pressured nine times, sacked four times and didn't complete a ball longer than 19 yards. Half his completions went to Jamison Crowder (14 catches), all dink-and-dunk variety. But Adam Gase has to own this, too. He couldn't figure out Sean McDermott's defense and didn't adjust well. At times, it seemed like former OC Jeremy Bates was phoning in plays from the Rocky Mountains.

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  10. I think Jets win yesterday, perhaps handily. Same if it was any other top HC leading the Jets. Like many I had about 8% confidence in the Gase hire. I viewed him as an OC, at best. His offense in Miami was always pedestrian. Running endless crossing patterns amounting to very little.

    Maybe I’m overrating the Jets offensive talent, not least the o-line. Maybe Gase was crap as an HC-OC in Miami as his QB and offense sucked. 

    Or maybe he coat tailed Peyton Manning, had one good OC season in Chicago, and voila: he’s an offensive genius. 

    With this coaching staff: I’d prefer Gregg Williams as HC and Gase as OC.

    If I had my druthers we’d have a different HC altogether. One issue is perennially excellent HCs can be as rare as perennially excellent QBs. 

  11. When all through the Jets House

    Not a creature was stirring, not even a Bills mouse

    Okay that's all I got on the rhyming. But like I assume most in Jets Nation, I feel as excited for opening day as I have for awhile. While the jury is out on what I consider 2019's pivotal Jets question - is Gase a legit HC-OC combo & leader of men ... I am heartened by the presence of more than a few talented pieces on the roster and the entire organization, including one Joe Douglas. I know he largely inherited his charges, but FWIW his presence alone has me intrigued about tomorrow and beyond.

    As for this season: I think solid time of possession while hopefully averaging 24 points-ish is the Jets best bet. As anyone sees the defense could have some trouble, with its nebulous corners and pass rush (we'll see how Williams can mix & match). If the offense can do that, it should give the lads a good shot most weeks.

    Doable? The answers begin tomorrow. 

    Enjoy Jets Nation!

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  12. If the answer is yes, then every week is a must win. 

    That's the mentality of a champion. It's every time I step on the field, I'm here to win. 

    The salary cap insures a somewhat level playing field. Thus if someone mails it in for a second - you can lose when you were supposed to win, win when you were supposed to lose. It's that line that separates much of the best from much of the rest.

    The championship-caliber organizations see every moment in uniform as must win. 

    Are the 2019 Jets championship caliber? Have the Jets constructed a championship organization?

    If they treat week 1 - 16 as must wins, they are trending in the right direction on the latter.

  13. 1 minute ago, JetsLife said:

    Serviceable franchise QB was in quotations - I meant to indicate they're franchise-type QBs, they're QBs many including their own organizations probably view as franchise QBs - but they're not in the category of the truly elite franchise QBs I mentioned.

    I said Goff & Trubisky are arguably in that group - meaning maybe not, jury is out. Too small sample size. But Goff certainly looked pretty good last year. And with the raw talent he possesses, his very good 2018 season culminating in a Super Bowl berth - there's a legit chance he may become one of the elite. Trubisky - also looks very promising. But overall I concede on second thought I shouldn't have included those two in there.

    Otherwise you cherry picked those two points, completely avoiding my broader points and the hole in your logic. Unless, that is, you're satisfied with being a KC pre Mahomes: your very good roster with no elite QB to bring you to the Promised Land. Me, all I care about is the Jets winning the Super Bowl. And the best odds to achieve that is having an elite franchise QB. Perennial Super Bowl threats have that kind of QB. The remaining teams don't and aren't perennial SB threats.

     

    And mind you are 1000% right the Jets look far from a perennial SB team in terms of their roster; that they're missing various critical pieces. Not to mention an unproven HC. As you accurately pointed the Jets gave up a ton for Darnold, making it all the more difficult to win big this year. We'll see.

  14. 49 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

    WUT

    Serviceable franchise QB was in quotations - I meant to indicate they're franchise-type QBs, they're QBs many including their own organizations probably view as franchise QBs - but they're not in the category of the truly elite franchise QBs I mentioned.

    I said Goff & Trubisky are arguably in that group - meaning maybe not, jury is out. Too small sample size. But Goff certainly looked pretty good last year. And with the raw talent he possesses, his very good 2018 season culminating in a Super Bowl berth - there's a legit chance he may become one of the elite. Trubisky - also looks very promising. But overall I concede on second thought I shouldn't have included those two in there.

    Otherwise you cherry picked those two points, completely avoiding my broader points and the hole in your logic. Unless, that is, you're satisfied with being a KC pre Mahomes: your very good roster with no elite QB to bring you to the Promised Land. Me, all I care about is the Jets winning the Super Bowl. And the best odds to achieve that is having an elite franchise QB. Perennial Super Bowl threats have that kind of QB. The remaining teams don't and aren't perennial SB threats.

     

  15. 13 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

    I don’t dispute that he looks the part. Never said he didn’t. The moral of the story here is that I’d rather have a great roster with the resources to go after a prospect better than Sam next year, than Sam surrounded by mostly trash and a roster that will require a couple years worth of work.

    You don’t have to agree. Jets fans over-index on the impossible nature of finding a QB because the Jets haven’t, but look around the league. It’s mostly a Jets problem.

    Unsure if that’s the case. Legit perennial/new contenders have one rare attribute in common: a truly elite franchise QB. And there are what, roughly 6ish of those going around at any time? In a 32 team league that’s a very low percentage. And by definition means it’s very difficult hitting on a franchise QB in the draft. 

    And without an elite franchise QB, you’re not a perennial SB contender. And obviously that’s always the only thing that matters. Otherwise you’re KC pre Mahomes: perennial very good roster, only to bow out in the WC or divisional round year after year for what seemed liked forever. Now with an elite talent like Mahomes: they came within a hair of getting over the AFC hump last year.  

    There are teams with ‘serviceable franchise QBs’ such as Carolina, Houston, Dallas to name a few off the top. But are they viewed as legit perennial SB threats? Otherwise its teams anchored by elite franchise QBs Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Brees, Wilson, Ryan, Wentz, Goff & Trubisky - and one could argue you with the latter two - far more likely to be the last one standing. 

     

  16. Need we say more?

    Whenever Darnold has the right supporting cast including coaching, his offense will be pretty good. If the offensive line is solid & Gase is a capable OC/HC, then the 2019 Jets offense will be pretty good.

    Because we got the Marlboro Man's grandson running s--t.

      

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  17. Is it me or are the Jets a little mouthy? Especially considering they haven't won anything.

    Jamal Adams is definitely a big talker, but at least he backs it up with his game. L Bell ditto.

    But chirping can filter in to the team. In a bad way. 

    I prefer the 'walk it, don't talk it' way. Just seems mouthy teams don't end up winning it all. 

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  18. On 7/23/2019 at 1:03 PM, BornJetsFan1983 said:

    Man I love fantasy football, anyone interested in joining a redraft start up league or making a Dynasty Jetnation FF league....I never did dynasty but love to try. If there is any interest, just let me know if you want to play - I just need to send you an email invite and then you sign up by creating or logging in to NFL.com. 

    If someone else has already started a league, please just point me in that direction...i played in one last year, someone set Jet nation league on yahoo and it was a lot of fun even though I didn't end up winning. I'm not fan of Yahoo so I was going to set it up on NFL.com.

    Ideally draft 3rd week of Preseason, 1/2 Point PPR, QB, RB RB WR WR WR FLEX TE K Def, 6 bench, 6 team playoff

    Stakes: I'm not sure any ideas? Winner gets to pick loser Jetnation name I dont know. Honestly I just like to play.

    Diehards only please - its more fun if people are playing every week.

     

    If any more spots I'd like to join in. But seems it's filled up? 

  19. On 5/30/2019 at 7:37 AM, Jetster said:

    I was very excited when I saw that we had signed Ty Montgomery in free agency. I threw his time with the Ravens out of the window because the offense created there to get the most out of Lamar Jackson was ill suited to Tys assets as a RB/WR. I followed his career in Green Bay because he was my swing RB on my fantasy team when the Packers got decimated at RB. 

    I could not believe how much McCarthy ran Ty between the tackles. Based on his upright running style he took some tremendous shots from LBs & eventually ended up with a couple of busted ribs. Ty is the ultimate tag team partner for Le'veon Bell. He was definitely a Gase target & im sure Adam loved the fact he could use the same sets while giving Bell some breathers. Defenses will get no breaks having to defend the flats when Ty comes in. I could also see some 2 RB sets, as both can run, catch & block in space (Bell better than Ty). 

    These numbers from his time in Green Bay gives you an idea as to how these RBs will help Sam Darnold:

    What no doubt attracted Adam Gase and his offensive staff was Montgomery's two-pronged production. In the past four seasons, he's averaged 6.10 yards/offensive touch, ninth-best among the 35 NFL players who've had at least 100 rushes and 100 receptions.

    The only Jet to clear 6.0 yards/touch with 100 rushes and catches over a four-season span was RB Bruce Harper, who notched 7.3 yards/touch from 1981-84. RB Leon Washington was close at 5.6 from 2006-09.

    Again. Very underrated signing!

     
     

    Well said. Couldn't agree more. Last night I too was reading that NYJets.com article on Montgomery. I always thought he was a very good weapon for the Packers, not least due to his versatility.

    If he and Gase work out well - it'll turn out Montgomery was the better Green Bay import than Mike McCarthy.

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  20. That is a good thing. A very good thing. 

    He couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag. 

    Hopefully Jets can wrangle a competent GM. If yes, great. If not, more of the same.

    But for the moment, it is a very good thing Maccagnan is no longer in charge.

     

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