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  1. Always a bit sad, yet renewing at the same time. Yesterday in place of NFL football unexpectedly got my non-streaming viewing culture on - wow. Wasn't prepared for that culture immersion of Paula Zahn highlighting NYC arts, CBS Sunday Morning, etc. - felt like a new man after.

    One more NFL Sunday left. Then everyone is at 0-0. And then on to those joyous late winter/early spring sports rites, Spring Training and March Madness.

    Back to our Jets - a hopeful, great read on Joe Douglas: https://nypost.com/2020/01/25/joe-douglas-effect-is-palatable-as-jets-overhaul-gets-underway/. Keeping fingers crossed big time Ozzie Newsome's GM skills particularly drafting, have rubbed off on Douglas majorly. Hear our prayer, NFL Gods.

  2. Good news is apparently this is a deep draft for o-linemen; tho we'll see in a few years.

    I hope Jets trade down multiple times ... other than OT you can generally build a good o-line rounds 2-5. Assuming you know how to draft.

    And the Jets must upgrade their offense overall. With KC's potent quick-strike offense, any contender to their AFC throne must be able to light up the scoreboard. Give me an offense averaging 27 points to start with, from there fill in at pass rush and beyond best you can. Hopefully Chris Herndon rebounds well and becomes a real weapon next year.

  3. 20 hours ago, Biggs said:

    I agree he was great and is a HOF player but please that kind of hyperbole is insane.  Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson didn't play that long ago.  He's in a group of great HOF CB.  It would be hard to pick the top 5 and you could make a serious argument that Revis isn't one of them.

    Can’t remember where I read or heard it many years ago, but it was a respected venue: Revis’ 2009 season was by any measure the most dominant performance by a CB ever, the best single season ever. That alone is worthy of at least some hyperbole.  

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  4. 21 hours ago, ghost_in_pads02 said:

    I know you are trying real hard to let this be something to make jet fans feel good about. But if any pat fan is sick cause jimmy g is in the SB..cause " that could been uswith him"

    They are just as foolish as this thread. All due respect.

    And it's all good you have found your "franchise qb", but that's half the battle..what good is a franchise QB if you dont have any kind of team to build around him..

    See..teams like the 9ers and the Pats last year could afford to have their QB do very little...cause they actually built a team around their QB...for the jets though...

    That remains to be seen..I mean there are rumors about sending off your big name free agent in Bell...like that would be crazy..this board acted like it was xmas cuz you landed a name..and now in just a year..he might want to go someplace else..??

    Like I said before...the Pats without Brady do not have to worry. They still have BB and a owner who let's football operations ppl handle that...even if it is trading away a capable replacement for brady...as it was said in here already..

    It was the right thing to do at the time...I am not worry about this teams future.

    I been a fan before Bledsoe got there and BB is still here..so I am good.

    Exactly re the Pats: hate saying it but I’ll believe they’re in trouble only when it happens. Be it under BB or a BB-handpicked successor. No doubt BB will aim to leave the Pats in good shape long term after he exits the scene. But before that: Pats were still very relevant ‘08 with Cassel at QB. If Stidham is the real deal the Pats will remain a serious factor. 

  5. On 1/20/2020 at 9:23 AM, Jet Nut said:

    How does it change the fact that the Pats let go of a QB who is in the SB two years later while the QB they held onto might be taking his declining, bottom of the league game out west.

    Umm, Brady still put up impressive numbers this season. His problem was his supporting cast - cumulatively they weren’t good. If/when Brady goes to a team with a strong supporting cast (including NE if they load up offensively), he’ll be lighting it up again. 

  6. 2 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

    Dudes talking out there ass in this thread . Revis only good for 3 years Lmaoo . He didn’t make plays? like he didn’t lead the league in turnovers in his 9th year .  Like he didn’t have the best season ever for corner in 09.. 

    the way hate turns into lies is hilarious. These 2 been going at it for years really nothing to see here. There both great at what they do . Just different styles. 

    if you want to hate him for making most money out of his career so be it. To pretend he was only good 3 years is a joke 

    Exactly. Sherman began talking smack at Revis years and years ago saying he was better than him. Back then Revis was dumbfounded why Sherman was essentially attacking him for no reason - Revis had never said anything negative about him.

    Also no small thing: as Mevi$ as Revis got nailed for - 1) do any of us try to bargain for less $ in our profession? Owners make many millions and sometimes billions in the case of an old AFL family the Raiders’ Davis family and players shouldn’t try maxing out their value? 2) like each new great at a position Revis helped raise the salary for those who followed, such as Sherman. 

    Both great corners, but as someone said Revis at his apex was better than Sherman’s zenith. 

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  7. On 1/14/2020 at 6:22 PM, NYJ1 said:

    The "EYE TEST" when it comes to Gase tells me one thing....

    He simply did NOT have talent to work with. That's a fact.

    Then, I come to the realization that the talent situation is so bad that, NO ONE, not just Gase, could be successful coaching this team. Not even a young Bill Parcells. 

    So ultimately no one knows if Gase is a good HC. Everything on this site is merely one's opinion. Not even my own opinion matters.

    What must happen is the GM must start doing his job.

    Yes an extremely small sample size but he had a healthy offense week 1, at home, with 4 first half turnovers that put up all of 8 points (a whopping 10 if he had a good kicker). Back then it was pointed out that 8 points off 4 first half turnovers was a historically low scoring output. For me that’s when the red flags surrounding Gase started their way back up the flag pole. 

    Yes not mentioned in the article cited by the OP, but there’s the broader context: Gase’s recent Miami offenses had been awful. This wasn’t a proven commodity HC-OC Andy Reid going from Philly to KC. It was a questionable HC-OC Gase going from Miami coming to NY. Worrisome side note there: Philly & KC have been among the better organizations the past 10 years and KC scooped up Reid; Miami and the Jets among the worst and Jets scooped up Gase.

    Anyway, hopefully he can change the trend next season with better talent, most critically up front. And re-discover even just some of the Denver magic and to a lesser extent his solid results in Chicago. 

  8. On 1/14/2020 at 3:14 PM, Bleedin Green said:

    While I certainly get your overall points here, I think the "noise in the data" excuse loses a lot of its merit when that needs to be attributed to the poor performance in every year of his professional coaching career, with the sole exception of when he had Peyton Manning playing/calling plays at the line.

    He's obviously getting at least one more year around here, so I'll certainly be rooting for him, but there is a pretty significant amount of evidence to suggest there's unfortunately little reason for optimism.

    I think his offense put up pretty good numbers his one year Chicago, between Manning & Denver and Miami.  

  9. The second point is the most damning.

    What kind of offensive mind essentially gives up on drives facing 2nd & long? It happened ad nauseam this season with throwaway predictable run plays for Bell. It reminded me of when Chrebet was hurt watching Paul Hackett’s predictable, lame offense with friends: he said they were constantly calling out plays before the snap. And mind you these weren’t professional NFL coaches. Much of the same this past season with Gase. 

    It’s unfortunate because I think he has the ability. It’s just too often he reverts to his tendencies, utilizes fear ball. And great defensive coaches and defenses eat him alive.  

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  10. 4 hours ago, Jetster said:

    Face it Jet fans. We will never see real NFL football until we're back to being contenders. This new NFL is riddled with loser teams going through the motions of another season. Players SAVING themselves for free agency. 

    Remember Robbie Andersons alligator arm impression in Buffalo? Seasons are nothing if your not in the playoffs. Buffalo got the taste & that changes everything. They believe they're on the way to yearly appearance. 

    Just the intensity of these playoff games goes up a notch as players strive for another chance, another game. Watching some of the regular season games in the NFL was like watching preseason football. Sam needs to taste the playoffs! He needs to have that feeling he had when playing big games at USC. There is no other way to ARRIVE in the NFL than to make plays in the biggest games. 

    10 years. 10 years since one of the greatest upsets I've ever witnessed watching the NY Jets beat the Pats at Gillette. That's like going for 3rd grade to graduation for god sake. There will be no better time for Joe Douglas to turn this team around than right now with the Pats finally teetering, Miami in rebuild & a beatable Buffalo team if we can fix the Oline. Healthy our defense can stand with the Bills offense. 

    We need playoffs THIS YEAR! Sams 3rd year in the league. It's time, no more excuses. I'm one of the fans that believes in Gase & what he's trying to establish here. But another 6-10, 7-9, 8-8 season will crush my enthusiasm. A lot of us older guys are getting tired, and cranky. We have our QB, many, many teams have turned things around in 1 year, why not us? The AFC East is a shell of its once strong past. The Pats have owned it for 20 years. It's f*cking wide open right now & we better be contenders for the Crown. 

    Don't enjoy being the bearer of realistic news, in this case bad news ... but prep to be cranky (hopefully not but ... ):

    1) Schedule. As easy as this year's schedule was, next year's is as difficult. This season was a window to, at minimum, claim a wild card berth. Better yet contend for the division and the No. 2 seed like Buffalo did. Alas when Buffalo was 7-1ish contending for the division title we were 1-7 - and poof there went the '19 season window.

    The 2020 season - no more easy street: NFC West, Chiefs/Chargers/Colts away, if Brady returns then a powerful NE again, twice. Hell even if he doesn't return they still have Belicheat & McDaniels - NE will be a factor. And Buffalo twice which has re-established itself.

    We could have a second-coming HC, of Andy Reid's offensive prowess combined with Belichick's evil defensive genius - but the number of holes the Jets roster has, 9 wins in '20 won't be easy. And often that's not enough for a WC.

    2) Our HC-OC, senor Gase. Until proven otherwise, he's not yet the second coming at HC. We saw plenty of exciting & encouraging moments this past season. Unfortunately we also saw more than a few alarming red flags. Yes o-line sucked, the roster was paper thin due to Macc's ineptitude and thus hamstrung by all the injuries. So Chris Johnson, many in here and elsewhere gave Gase a '19 hall pass. Fair enough: then let's see what Gase does in 2020.

    Conclusion: all this said the NFL is such a wild, week-to-week league. Some of this year's contenders are next season's pretenders. Seemingly unexpected crazy s--t can and does happen (see: Titans stomping Ravens). If Joe Douglas manages to build a strong o-line and pass rush in one offseason - then the Jets should have a chance to contend for a WC. In which case it'll be on Gase & his staff to have the Jets in WC contention and hopefully better in December.

  11. 3 hours ago, SAR I said:




    I've got the real thing.  A few apparently slipped to Marshalls instead of going to Pakistan.

    SAR I

    I think you and other buyers of this AFC champions gear jinxed us for the next decade. All that stuff belonged in Pakistan like you said. Do some voodoo chants on said gear so we make the playoffs next year. 

  12. 1 hour ago, jgb said:

    He totally would’ve. “Best player in the draft!”

    You guys are way off. At no. 1 overall he would’ve had a clear shot at Jachai Polite. Lest anyone pounce on him like Macc was worried about with Hackenberg. 

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  13. I imagine this has been mentioned elsewhere in so many words, but I’ll add:

    If this is a deep o-line class, I suggest consider trading down multiple times to add picks in the second - fourth rounds. Load up on drafted o-linemen, sign a FA edge rusher if the talent & price is right, go from there.  

    Fortify the o-line and juice up the pass rush to start, that would give some hope. Both would change the complexion of the entire team: enhances Sam x 2 via better run game and pass protection; hopefully a better pass rush ultimately = less points allowed, less opposing TOP, gives offense more possessions. And so I   

    Elementary stuff the Jets and other losing outfits have failed to achieve. 

  14. General rule: it’s very difficult to buy championships in the NFL, impossible to buy sustainable success. NBA definitely, MLB to a large degree; NFL not so much due to salary cap. Just not enough precious cap dollars to go around to fill out a top tier, deep roster via free agency.

    It’s all about the draft, and a few key free agent signings. And it’s essential to hit big on costly free agents as they eat up multiple players’ cap space. On-field production must almost exceed the contract.

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  15. 4 hours ago, Untouchable said:

    I’m talking about the offensive assistants.

    The only real success there is Pederson. And maybe I’m in the minority, but I don’t consider Pederson a great HC just because of that Superbowl win a few years ago. Guy coaches in the sh*ttiest division in pro football and still barely eeked his way into the playoffs this year.

    Who’s the next biggest offensive success who studied under Andy Reid? Marty Mornhinweg?

    As far as I know, Bieniemy has no playcalling experience outside of two years as the OC at Colorado and has been a career RB’s coach everywhere he’s been prior to 2018. His resume damn near mirrors Freddie Kitchens.

    If Gase fails and we’re looking for another HC a year from now, then the dickbag Johnson Bros need to open up their collective purses and shoot for the stars.

    FWIW the Eagles were injury riddled this year. Especially late in the season their offensive skill positions were the walking wounded. That they kept it relatively close vs Seattle last weekend with McCown - not too bad. 

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  16. Parcells never believed in resting players, equating it to a dangerous non-competitive mindset. 3 weeks off for Jackson (perhaps other Ravens I don’t know) thanks to Harbaugh resting him week 17 - no bueno. Meanwhile Tennessee came to put in a day’s work including their coaching, wow. I think the story of the game is Tennessee utterly out coaching Baltimore. 

  17. Publicly he seems to be a strong believer in Gase, along with our genius owner Christopher Johnson. Gase at best - the jury remains out on, worst he’s a garbage HC-OC. Perhaps Douglas has different thoughts on Gase privately. If not what does this say about Douglas’ judgment?

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  18. On 1/8/2020 at 11:38 AM, Villain The Foe said:

    Im glad Lamar Jackson didnt have the misfortune to be drafted by this terrible franchise. 

    And now the league doesnt even know how to freaking stop this kid and are running scared half to death.

    Getting more specific: Lamar is lucky he didn't get drafted by this terrible ownership. As the Johnson Bros increasingly put their stamp on the Jets post Parcells/Parcells' Jets Tree, so has the franchise gone down the tubes ...

    Jackson has been unbelievable. But Cleveland (a few other teams I'm guessing) slowed him down a bit twice - and playoff football is a whole different animal. Let's see how things shake out this weekend and beyond. Also: on Tuesday talking with some friendly Pats fans while on winter holiday in deep Pats country, I mentioned something many have thought and said: while Jackson is built like a tank - there's some major Ronnie-Lott type hit, knocking him in to next week awaiting him. It brings me no joy saying that, but simple math dictates any RB (what Jackson is when he runs the ball) eventually sustains some devastating blows. Not to mention the overall toll RBs' bodies take. Yes he doesn't get hit like traditional RBs nor carry it 25 times a game - but math is math.

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  19. Well in today’s game you must be able to light up the scoreboard. Seems Jets best chance to do that is vastly improve the offensive line - at least from a personnel perspective. 

    Defensively, IMO the priority should be building a dominant pass rush (easier said than done - premier pass rushers are at a premium). Super Bowl participants almost always seem to possess a potent pass rush. 

    I’d be intrigued to see what a 2020 Jets team could do with a road-grading o line and juiced-up pass rush. 

  20. One big take way from yesterday was the Vikings pass rush. Brees was constantly harassed, forcing him in to several turnovers and the underdog Vikings won. Once again underscoring the critical importance of potent pass rush. A powerful pass rush is a value added, force multiplier for the entire team. Changes the entire complexion of every game.

    As much as the o-line needs help, so does our 4-man pass rush. A blitz-heavy defense like Gregg Williams' generally bites you in the ass over time. Live by the blitz, die by the blitz.

    I'll be a happier Jets fan if Joe Douglas builds a Fort Knox o-line and a ferocious pass rush. For the 2019 Jets' surprisingly strong run defense, their pass rush wasn't good. Not an insignificant factor in their poor 7-9 record.

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  21. On 1/4/2020 at 12:45 PM, Larz said:

    Gase has a history of QBs getting injured from all of his empty sets and long developing routes. 

    He is a predictable play caller that doesn’t factor into his game balls plan what his players do well or poorly 

    Sam looked better in his rookie season , better pocket awareness, anticipation and mental toughness  

    Gase is still living off of that 1 year with Manning  


    the line was a joke but bell, Powell,  crowder and Anderson is enough to move the chains and manage the game with    

    bell was in the slot a ton with the Steelers not with gase

    we saw the gase doghouse effect with ty Montgomery.

    hes trash  


    This could be the case.

    Bottom line for any HC is wins and losses plus in Gase's case, how many points his unit puts up. For whatever reasons, his offenses have been atrocious in the scoring department post Manning/Chicago. This could partly be a function of bad luck/circumstances i.e. deficient personnel and injuries in Miami and here. Yet 4 years of awful results is a horrible look.

    Now Gase partners with his friend Joe Douglas - a respected personnel man around the league - to assemble the talent. There never should be excuses - beginning in 2020 even less so.

  22. 23 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

    Buy!! We had 7 wins in an injury riddled mono year.  We will be better next year after Douglas has a full off season!

    Against a very easy 2019 schedule.

    Jets could be healthy next year and go 6-10:

    For example if Brady returns to NE the Jets could be looking at 4-5 losses alone including their NFC West slate. Away it’s Rams & Seattle. Plus KC away. So perhaps 5-6 losses right there alone.

    Yes I’m being negative but also perhaps realistic. And Buffalo is stout again. 

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