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Unless I am wrong this is at her daughter's wedding ? You feel bad for Zach who has two parents who love and support him which clearly comes across when you hear him speak.

The more I think about this the more I see Dallas and LV being ideal partners and for two reasons. The ND linebacker fits the Raiders wanting to build the defense but only drafting players from teams who compete the BCS final four while Dallas needs secondary help and the TCU safety is local highly rated. Both teams with multiple 3rd's and both owners wanting to be aggresive for different reasons (age and selling tickets) Beyond Jacksonsville taking either I would be surprised if these are not the teams trading up to top of 2nd

Trade with Raiders.. they have back to back 3rd round picks and need the LB from Notre Dame. Move down in the 2nd and pick up a third.

The team that I could see being a match are the Raiders. After reaching last night and having the fan base growning I could see them moving their 2nd and 3rd (they have back to back picks) to move up for ND linebacker. Final Answer - Jets trade 34 for 2nd and 3rd.

although not the three players I called out this was a good move in my opinion. shocked we did not have to give up 34 but vikings needed pics.

I would make the trade to include 2021 2nd if one of the three I mentioned in original post were there (waddle, surtain, slater). To balance it Minnesota could add a 4th rd pick.

Looking at a team with no 2nd round pick and what seems to be a focus on fixing their defensive front. With the 14th pick I think the def tackles and ends may be overvalued there and could see them wanting to slide down a bit. Personally if one of either Waddle, Surtain or Slater are there at 14 I would be ok with 23 and a 2nd but no clue what the trade chart would value that drop at.

Interesting proposal.. Any other team playoff type team and I would say yes, but this team is so devoid of talent and carrying those extra picks into next year gives the flexibility to continue and build the roster.

The Miami Bears...

That organization is trending towards the league to stepping and force a sale good or bad. We thought the Jets could not sign players, watch this train wreck and expect the league to step in. The owner passed and the shield will not let this carry into the season with Jr.

The fastest way JD loses all credibility is roll our Darnold again and have him fall apart and embarrass the owner. The coaching staff has an alibi that he was too far gone yet JD has years of looking at this up close. Yeah, he can roll the dice we have a Tannenbaum V2 but the risk vs resetting with his or their guy far far outweighs this reward. Can we keep this thread to that very likely, near certain conclusion and focus on what to do with this assumption. And the sign everyone in FA is not the answer. Liken to my 15 yr old kid who spent her first $75 paycheck as fast as she could

JuJu and Linsley I am scared of the hip injuries with Golladay and still think JuJu has great value and has shown production. Oh and he is really young.

Don't like to waste time on other teams in this forum unless it directly effects our NYJ. That being said with the Jamal trade this 2022 pick from Seattle could be really good if this Wilson to the Bears rumor continues. Noted below is team letter where no mention of him is made which has all the skeptics and fans in Seattle thinking Carroll is moving on. With the owner passing away Pete seems to be running things and could see this happening very soon. I would think if they are trying to mend the fence his name would at least be somewhere in the letter.

No... I am not trading the #2 pick and the $ value it creates for a top 5 $ qb who is maybe the 15 best in the league coming off injury.

That's a big stretch to associate his desire to work with a relative's success. If you don't think he will be good based on 2019 tape it can be argued but this is like saying Mahomes was born into wealth so you know he will be "crapped out". I will take accuracy, quick release and mobility over throwing it 80 yards every day. He is still young and not getting smaller.

Every thread on this forum is turning into the same back and forth. My point initially was I think this is Wilson based on the reasons I listed and him being a fit in this type of offense. If I am right what are thoughts on other questions asked... or we can debate the same old stuff on every other thread.

Hypothetically if at the end of day Joe and team are split on Sam and Zach it goes to value. I believe Joe will value the cost savings in drafting Zach and what he can do with the $ vs what he could draft with another 2nd round pick.

It no longer is a question of where things are going with the qb position in April. The combination of new staff, salary implications, 2022 QB prospects and skill set of Wilson make it a near certainty the NYJ will draft him at 2. I think Joe and team expect improvement in 2021 to a point where they hope/plan to never be in the position again of being able to draft elite talent (top 5 pick lets say) this high in the draft. Rather than argue Sam should be kept again and again I would be interested in what the forum thinks about how to not have Sam V2 with Wilson. Does he start day

Do we really think Atlanta is ready to move off Matt Ryan ? I do not see it considering the money, new coach and ownership. I think they are looking at Sewell to keep Ryan upright more than someone to replace him at this point. Phiily at 6 has Hurts and will likely give him the year to pass/fail. Think Carolina is the key.

This has always been my preference but doubt 4 is the likely partner. I would look at Carolina at 8 (assuming no watson) as the most logical partner. 1st and 2nd in 2021, 1st in 2022 and 2022 3rd would be enough for me. Looking at the capital this creates for building a roster factoring in Seattle liking taking a step back next year creates all sorts of possibilities. Worst case scenario is Darnold busts in 2021 and we go into 2021 with three 1st's of which all could be high picks.

Accuracy... if you cannot make the throw it makes no difference how tough, fast you are... Leadership - need to be the face of the franchise and respected in the locker room Availability - impossible to predict but need to be on the field Accuracy again... by far the most important skillset a qb has to have

The Jets are in the prime spot allowing Houston to choose any QB less Lawrence. If they took the Miami offer they would only do so by being sold on Tua knowing the Jets would then very likely take the QB or trade out to a team that would. Being in a future division with Allen and Watson this is a critical moment to not only change our team but directly change another as I do not see any other teams in play for Watson that could offer more than these two. Both Firsts in 2021, and 1st in 2022. Swap mid round picks if necessary.

Chase will likely be a top 5 pick so no way he is there at pick 25+.. I would look at OL/WR with those two picks.

This is the only answer logical answer. The trade down is iffy depending on if a Thomas type lineman is available. Having a young da brick on the left edge and round 2 and 3 interior lineman has to be the only way. I also think we put so much emphasis on Gase (please fire him) but we need to look at who is going to be coaching these picks and the strength and conditioning. Pollack was run out of Dallas and did nothing in Cincinnati.