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  1. 15 hours ago, JetsLife said:

    Those are some scary stats for Gase's offense.

    I once believed in the refrain that Gase was hamstrung by a 3rd-string QB in Falk. Well, IINM he was the one who wanted Falk. Whereas a team like Pittsburgh is currently a playoff team, behind back-up, 3rd string and 4th string QBs all season.


    Like Gase was hamstrung by Tannehill in Miami ???  It was the other way around.  

    Although it is obvious how bad of a match Gase is for the Jets HC job, the Johnson's wont pull the pug until he proves it in the win/loss column this season and next season...

  2. 14 minutes ago, peebag said:

    Again, I did not like the Gase hire and I don't think he's done a good job with the Jets but this is what you stated:

    Nowhere in your statement did you say you were talking about the Jets or Dolphins nor did you state names of anyone who on the record that says they hate/dislike Gase.

    Also what are suppositions did I make that you disagree with?

    Who/What else could I have been talking about other than Jets or Dolphins with respect to Gase ??? 

    It seems his big supporters have been Peyton Manning and Chris Johnson.  Not too many others.

    Pretty much any sports commentary including opinions supported by statistics can be dismissed as supposition within an argument.  You can pick any of my posts or yours too.  It applies across the board. 

  3. 6 minutes ago, section314 said:

    I always do, and that post was no exception. Jetnation is a contact sport.😁

    I dig... I like a juicy thread very much.  IMHO, the threads that get a bit hot are usually the best ones.  People really start thinking and talking... 

    Bill Parcells:  "What do you get when you squeeze and orange???"  

    Meaning... You get the juice that is inside of people if you squeeze them. 

    Or more eloquently, you could say... 

    You'll see a lot more of what a man or woman is made of and what is really on their mind when they are embroiled in a competitive duress.


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  4. 8 minutes ago, peebag said:

    Listen, I'm not a fan of Gase but now you're just making sh*t up.

    It is a matter of record that Dolphins fans and many players had a genuine dislike for Gase.  While he may not be a bad person by any means, there is more then enough circumstantial evidence to suppose that he is both toxic and incompetent as a professional HC.   From where I'm standing and after reading some of your suppositions, your response is both sanctimonious and hypocritical. 

    You are free to defend Gase at length.  Even if I find your reasoning to be questionable, I won't react and call you a liar.

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  5. 3 hours ago, Jetster said:

    I don't really care what happens tonight other then Sam Darnold getting out of this game alive but there isn't a team in the NFL that could succeed with what the Jets have gone through this year, including the freaking Patriots. 

    These IR & injury lists are like scrolls for god sake. It's funny watching games with playoff teams & the announcer will say, it's been tough on the QB since their all pro guard went down. It will be interesting to see tonight if they put the list of players NOT PLAYING for this damn team. It's surreal really. 

    These coaches have to be to dumbfounded every time they get an updated injury list. Greg Williams has 1 sh*tty CB (Roberts) that started the season. I know injuries usually balance to the mean but my goodness, WTH is happening here? I would concentrate on putting together an entirely different approach to strength & conditioning going into 2020. However they prepared & whatever they're doing to maintain health sure as hell isnt working! 

    Gase is toxic and players don't like him.  Toxic managers and administrators in *any* business always have a relatively high number of employees calling  in sick or just plain quitting...

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  6. 15 hours ago, AL047 said:

    The Jets are currently picking #8 in the draft for now, but it may change.

    The Jets needs are as follows:

    1) A whole new offensive line - 2 tackles, 1 guard and 1 center; they also need depth behind the starting line.

    2) CB's is a need and was a major weakness for the defense. 

    3) Pass rushing OLB a weakness on defense which wasn't addressed since John Abraham was traded.

    4) WR is a need because Darnold needs his weapons. Enunwa is damaged goods and Anderson is questionable because its not sure if they will sign him or not?

    5) MLB - Williamson is damaged goods and Mosely is questionable because of his health. They need to get younger at that position and need depth.

    What should be the first pick of there's in the 2020 draft? We definitely know they need a Olineman, CB and a pass rushing OLB. (those are major needs} The Jets have 7 picks in the 2020 draft, what do you think they may draft? I also believe they will make a few trades during the draft to add a few picks to either the 2020 draft or 2021.



    New head coach.

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  7. 46 minutes ago, Copernicus said:

    Something is so not right with Gase/Bell/and the Jets. As the season is playing out it is becoming more clear that they are not on the same page. From Bell going from top offensive threat in the NFL to lack of carries and involvement in the offense, to the obnoxious amount of carries the RBs got on Sunday without Bell,  to the flu that was serious enough for the Jets to make Bell inactive but not serious enough that he would be able to go bowling. Something is not right here. Is Gase the bad guy for not playing him enough throughout the season? Is Bell the bad guy behind the scenes and the bowling incident and lack of awareness of being scene in public is the start of exposing why Gase seems to not like him?

    How do you think this plays out? 

    Yeah... It is Gase... 

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  8. 15 minutes ago, rangerous said:

    there may be something good in all this.  by keeping with his scheme gase is finding out which of the current players fit best so it should be easier to cull the team.  from what i see, running game aside, the receivers are getting open.  darnold is making good passes and is getting dropped a lot by wide open guys.

    It is hard to find good, proven players.  Especially very talented ones like Bell.  You don't piss away good players.  You take advantage of them by putting them in the best position to utilize their skills.

    Gase thinks the best place for Bell is on the bench.

    Gase is a moron.

  9. 3 hours ago, rangerous said:

    when a team is 5-8 and possibly heading to 5-11 there aren't many keepers and usually quite a few holes.  these trade rumors shouldn't surprise anyone although losing young proven players for the crap shoot that is the draft must be carefully considered.

    There is nothing wrong with Adams or Bell.   The problem is Gase.   He is in possession of the ultimate HC flaw.  He's glued to one way and one system regardless of the manpower he as to work with.  A good coach *NEVER* picks up where he left off last time, or left off last season for that matter,  Parcells would always say it.  "We are starting new."  Even if just a few starters on your roster change during the off season, you have a *NEW* team and you have *NEW AND DIFFERENT* opposition.  

    This guy Gase has his offense in a shoe box and he thinks he can 'port it over to where ever and when ever he goes.  Not only does he think he can do it, this guy is *ADDICTED* to it.

    He does not know what the hell to do with LeVeon Bell and it is becoming obvious that he does not know or care what to do with Sam Darnold.

    Johnson is hoodwinked mostly because he too does not know his ass from his elbow.  

    What that means for us ???

    Another year of dysfunction, and quite probably the destruction of young Sam Darnold.

    The Jets finally get some luck and what could be a true franchise QB falls into their lap, but stupid sh*t management decisions will see it all flushed down the toilet.

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  10. 50 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

    I personally want the Jets to be good again.  I don't know if that is accomplished by keeping Adams and Bell or trading them.  I'm willing to trust Douglas to make that decision for now.

    That's my hard hitting take.

    It wont be accomplished with Gase as the HC.  Another blunder by the Johnsons.  They have been *DUPED* by a charlatan. 

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  11. 3 minutes ago, phill1c said:

    Rex isn't the Rex you seem to think he was. And I would take Gregg Williams over him, every time.

    In fact, he was always being too aggressive when it wasn't appropriate and doing stupid things like making Richardson play OLB in pass coverage. Blitzing everyone on 3rd and forever...just really had one trick, the overload blitz, and nothing creative or smart otherwise.

    The Jets literally lost games because of his stupid defensive calls. [they probably won more than a few too]

    I guess you don't remember the Jets performance in both playoff runs... 

  12. 10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

    The Jets traded what was considered their best DLineman in Leo Williams.  They're using guys like Nathan Shepherd, Fatukasi, Kyle Phillips and an old Steve McClendon to remain the NFL's best defense against the rush.  Rex isn't the guy coaching them.

    you mean OC's realize they can pass on the Jets because of scarce manpower on the back end of the defense and a poor pass rush due again to manpower issues.  GW is a fine DC, but he's not Rex

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  13. 48 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

    Well, we saw Rex coach Richardson and Wilkerson . . . 

    Yes... And that was when they were both playing well and talking like guys you want to keep around.  Rex said he *NEVER* had problems with either one of them.  When Rex was not there, they went up the spout.

    There is real benefit to having a HC who the players like and relate to.  Unlike BB, Rex is a humanist and a real teacher.  Belichick has "laundry boys" and Rex has students.  

    Look at Jim Leonhard now... Considered the best DC in college.

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  14. 36 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

    Rex was a predictable coach and it showed playing against good to great coahes. Everyone knew that on 3rd down and 5 (or more) that he was going to blitz, they all knew he was going to play man. 

    You know how many times I seen teams like Baltimore run a bootleg on a crucial 3rd down in order to nullify the blitz while running a crosser to nullify man coverage? 

    What's worse, Rex expected every player to be Darrelle Revis when it came to cover skills. 


    Rex Ryan's defense was like a hammer. If you didnt have the ability to scheme against it you'd get hammered. However, if you the remedy you would kill him damn near everytime you played him because he was always a hammer. 


    The Ryan era was better than the prior era's, however, I always wondered what would have been if 2009/10 Mangini would have remained out coach and Rex would have simply been DC. 

    I probably would have seen a SB appearance in my lifetime. Or maybe im being too critical on Rex. Either way, what I can say is that Rex had a pretty stacked team those first 2 seasons that he really wasnt responsible for, once that turnover came and we had to rely on players that came in under him, we started to see that things wasnt working out. 


    The Rex defensive identity was indeed often centered around pass pressure, but there was a lot more to it than that.  Rex also schemed very good against the run while applying such pressure.   Flexibility was the true key to what Rex liked to do.  You saw a lot of blitzing, but you also saw a variety of coverages from play to play.  Press man, man, zone, loaded zone, and combinations of them all. 

    If you remember the victory that Rex and the Jets had over Manning and the Colts in the 2010 playoff run. Rex did not call max pressure too often.   Rex won that game over Manning with a lot of max coverage packages that confounded Manning the entire game.

    The "stacked" team that Rex took over went from a middle of the pack defense to the best in the league.  

    The Jets didn't make it into the post season with Rex after 2010 because of roster issues, not because of bad coaching.  Rex was a very good HC, but a very *VERY* bad defacto GM.   He was telling Tanny what to do and Tanny didnt say no.    

    Never let an emotional reactionary administrate the staff decisions.  

    The Rex/Idzik year was blatant sabotage against Rex by Idzik. 

    In the end, I blame Johnson for the Rex regime missing the post season.  Johnson should have realized that Rex was not a good guy to send out to the grocery store.  

  15. A quick thought on Rex... 

    Along with being a singular talent for calling defense, Rex was/is possibly the best position coach for defensive lineman that the league has seen in a long time.  He did wonders with the players in Baltimore and he also elevated the games of players like Mike DeVito and Pouha.  

    IMHO, if Rex was still around, think of what could have been with players like T. Wilkerson,S. Richardson, L. Williams, Q. Williams.

    Rex is good at both motivating and teaching technical skills.  I'd venture to say the Jets would be getting a lot more out of those picks if Rex was running the show...


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