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  1. 3 hours ago, rangerous said:

    when a team is 5-8 and possibly heading to 5-11 there aren't many keepers and usually quite a few holes.  these trade rumors shouldn't surprise anyone although losing young proven players for the crap shoot that is the draft must be carefully considered.

    There is nothing wrong with Adams or Bell.   The problem is Gase.   He is in possession of the ultimate HC flaw.  He's glued to one way and one system regardless of the manpower he as to work with.  A good coach *NEVER* picks up where he left off last time, or left off last season for that matter,  Parcells would always say it.  "We are starting new."  Even if just a few starters on your roster change during the off season, you have a *NEW* team and you have *NEW AND DIFFERENT* opposition.  

    This guy Gase has his offense in a shoe box and he thinks he can 'port it over to where ever and when ever he goes.  Not only does he think he can do it, this guy is *ADDICTED* to it.

    He does not know what the hell to do with LeVeon Bell and it is becoming obvious that he does not know or care what to do with Sam Darnold.

    Johnson is hoodwinked mostly because he too does not know his ass from his elbow.  

    What that means for us ???

    Another year of dysfunction, and quite probably the destruction of young Sam Darnold.

    The Jets finally get some luck and what could be a true franchise QB falls into their lap, but stupid sh*t management decisions will see it all flushed down the toilet.

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  2. 50 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

    I personally want the Jets to be good again.  I don't know if that is accomplished by keeping Adams and Bell or trading them.  I'm willing to trust Douglas to make that decision for now.

    That's my hard hitting take.

    It wont be accomplished with Gase as the HC.  Another blunder by the Johnsons.  They have been *DUPED* by a charlatan. 

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  3. 3 minutes ago, phill1c said:

    Rex isn't the Rex you seem to think he was. And I would take Gregg Williams over him, every time.

    In fact, he was always being too aggressive when it wasn't appropriate and doing stupid things like making Richardson play OLB in pass coverage. Blitzing everyone on 3rd and forever...just really had one trick, the overload blitz, and nothing creative or smart otherwise.

    The Jets literally lost games because of his stupid defensive calls. [they probably won more than a few too]

    I guess you don't remember the Jets performance in both playoff runs... 

  4. 10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

    The Jets traded what was considered their best DLineman in Leo Williams.  They're using guys like Nathan Shepherd, Fatukasi, Kyle Phillips and an old Steve McClendon to remain the NFL's best defense against the rush.  Rex isn't the guy coaching them.

    you mean OC's realize they can pass on the Jets because of scarce manpower on the back end of the defense and a poor pass rush due again to manpower issues.  GW is a fine DC, but he's not Rex

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  5. 48 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

    Well, we saw Rex coach Richardson and Wilkerson . . . 

    Yes... And that was when they were both playing well and talking like guys you want to keep around.  Rex said he *NEVER* had problems with either one of them.  When Rex was not there, they went up the spout.

    There is real benefit to having a HC who the players like and relate to.  Unlike BB, Rex is a humanist and a real teacher.  Belichick has "laundry boys" and Rex has students.  

    Look at Jim Leonhard now... Considered the best DC in college.

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  6. 36 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

    Rex was a predictable coach and it showed playing against good to great coahes. Everyone knew that on 3rd down and 5 (or more) that he was going to blitz, they all knew he was going to play man. 

    You know how many times I seen teams like Baltimore run a bootleg on a crucial 3rd down in order to nullify the blitz while running a crosser to nullify man coverage? 

    What's worse, Rex expected every player to be Darrelle Revis when it came to cover skills. 

     

    Rex Ryan's defense was like a hammer. If you didnt have the ability to scheme against it you'd get hammered. However, if you the remedy you would kill him damn near everytime you played him because he was always a hammer. 

     

    The Ryan era was better than the prior era's, however, I always wondered what would have been if 2009/10 Mangini would have remained out coach and Rex would have simply been DC. 

    I probably would have seen a SB appearance in my lifetime. Or maybe im being too critical on Rex. Either way, what I can say is that Rex had a pretty stacked team those first 2 seasons that he really wasnt responsible for, once that turnover came and we had to rely on players that came in under him, we started to see that things wasnt working out. 

     

    The Rex defensive identity was indeed often centered around pass pressure, but there was a lot more to it than that.  Rex also schemed very good against the run while applying such pressure.   Flexibility was the true key to what Rex liked to do.  You saw a lot of blitzing, but you also saw a variety of coverages from play to play.  Press man, man, zone, loaded zone, and combinations of them all. 

    If you remember the victory that Rex and the Jets had over Manning and the Colts in the 2010 playoff run. Rex did not call max pressure too often.   Rex won that game over Manning with a lot of max coverage packages that confounded Manning the entire game.

    The "stacked" team that Rex took over went from a middle of the pack defense to the best in the league.  

    The Jets didn't make it into the post season with Rex after 2010 because of roster issues, not because of bad coaching.  Rex was a very good HC, but a very *VERY* bad defacto GM.   He was telling Tanny what to do and Tanny didnt say no.    

    Never let an emotional reactionary administrate the staff decisions.  

    The Rex/Idzik year was blatant sabotage against Rex by Idzik. 

    In the end, I blame Johnson for the Rex regime missing the post season.  Johnson should have realized that Rex was not a good guy to send out to the grocery store.  

  7. A quick thought on Rex... 

    Along with being a singular talent for calling defense, Rex was/is possibly the best position coach for defensive lineman that the league has seen in a long time.  He did wonders with the players in Baltimore and he also elevated the games of players like Mike DeVito and Pouha.  

    IMHO, if Rex was still around, think of what could have been with players like T. Wilkerson,S. Richardson, L. Williams, Q. Williams.

    Rex is good at both motivating and teaching technical skills.  I'd venture to say the Jets would be getting a lot more out of those picks if Rex was running the show...

     

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  8. 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

    I have to say, New York sports fans have to be the most tolerant.  I have never seen a fan of a NY team give an opposing  fan crap for rooting for their team and there is always ample opportunity 

    I agree fully. Been to Jets, Giants, Nicks, Yankee's game.  NY fans get kick out of it when opposing fans go over the top.  I have never seen any out of town fan get his/her balls busted.  There was one time were I saw retaliation, but it was well deserved and non violent.  

    At a Jets Dallas game, there was a drunk Cowboys fan breaking balls big time.  Dez Bryant caught a pass on Revis and this guy was going nuts.  He got in the face of a Jets fan who had a Revis jersey and yelled in his face.... "REVIS ISLAND HAS BEEN INVADED"... The patient and tolerant Jets fan just kept cool.  Later on in the game Tony Romo served up a game changing interception right to Revis and the Jets fan was looking right at the drunk Cowboys fan chanting 'REVIS, REVIS, REVIS".   The Cowboy's fan dumped a bucket of popcorn over his head and then the yellow jackets took him to the drunk tank... LOLZ

  9. 1 hour ago, SAR I said:

    With this same roster, Herm Edwards, Al Groh, and Rex Ryan would be 1-8.  Adam Gase is 5-4.  That's beyond impressive.

    SAR I

    I think the coach we should be giving credit to is Greg Williams... He is the one who is running a until that is performing above and beyond the talent level and doing so week after week.  He is not running the defense he ran with Cleveland or the Saints.   He is running the best defense he can as related to what he has to work with.  Adam Gase needs to watch and learn, if possible... 

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  10. 5 minutes ago, SAR I said:

    With this same roster, Herm Edwards, Al Groh, and Rex Ryan would be 1-8.  Adam Gase is 5-4.  That's beyond impressive.

    SAR I

    Have you completely lost your mind ? Or are you an associate of Adam Gase ??? Gase is the definition of the HC that jams square pegs into round holes.  You actually think a Rex Ryan team would have LeVeon Bell folding laundry on game day ???

  11. 55 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

    When your 22 year old QB goes 20/36 for 270YDs, 2TDs and 1 INT in a winning cause......and the fanbase is furious that he didn't play well, you KNOW you've found your FRANCHISE QB. 

    Darnold has the tools. BUT...  Gase is going to be Darnold's undoing...  Gase is a charlatan...  Gase has DUPED Chris Johnson...  

  12. 33 minutes ago, SAR I said:

    If the Jets held onto Teddy Bridgewater and he played in the Browns, Eagles, and Patriots games while Darnold was out, we would be 8-5 and the 6 seed with head-to-head matchups against the Steelers and Bills ahead of us.

    That's the type of season this beat up and injured Jets team put forward, and you view this season as a loss?  Quite from it.  One should leave this season thinking we have a HC and a QB and depth at LB, TE, and CB, unexpected surprises towards 2020.

    SAR I

    You think the Jets have a HC ??? That Charlatan ??? 

  13. 26 minutes ago, DonCorleone said:

    Quinnen Williams. I know he is young, but he reminds me an awful lot of Leonard, only not as good a run stopper. 

    Yep.  Forget any of the nonsense about him being a young player that needs to be developed.  Not even Rex Ryan could train him up.   Far from being the impact player you would expect from such a high first round choice, he is not even as effective as a JAG.  Mike DeVito  and Pouha were both better inside d-linemen.   His rookie contact is cheap, so if you cant get a 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th round pick for him, just keep him around until his contract is over and he drops off the map

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  14. 23 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

    May not be an exactly ground-breaking observation to conclude that when he has bad protection and bad play-calling he doesn't play as well.

    My observations add up to more than that, I think.  Darnold can be a top NFL QB.  It is not just pass pressure in his way.  It is Gase.    I dont credit Mac with the Darnold pick.  Darnold pretty much fell into their lap.  The Jets had a piece of luck for once... 

    And to what ends will that luck serve the Jets ???

    It is a Shame that Darnold will most probably be wasted by Gase either through inept handling or perhaps he will be traded before the 2020 draft.

    The current situation is far worse than most see or want to admit.

    Gase has *DUPED* Chris Jonson and the Jets are heading further and faster down the wrong track.  

    The biggest shame of it all is that the Jets finally got a franchise QB that you can build a team around.   With Gase backed by Johson, it is going up the bloody spout... 

  15. 5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

    the Jets traded 3 second rounders and Quenton Nelson for Sam Darnold. There's the new line WF. All the resources were poured into Sam. 

    Nelson btw was a gold jacket player before the draft and everyone knew it 

    the logic was a QB 1 would make everything better

    unfortunately i spent an awful lot of time looking at the TV yesterday wondering if Fitzpatrick, quenton Nelson and 3 2nd rounders win more games 

    Here is a thought that is going to get a few more butt fumbles...

    Unless I am very wrong about Adam Gase and Johnson's faith in him...

    Ok... Sit down first... 

    Ready ???

    I *think* they may trade Sam to one of the teams at the top of the draft order that need a QB so the Jets can take Justin Herbert or another as of yet undiscussed QB

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  16. 8 minutes ago, Maxman said:

    You didn't see Darnold audible yesterday? Because it happened and it resulted in a first down.

    Can you post the make\model\price of your TV. Those shots you are getting that help you read facial expressions and interpret them sound sweet.  :)

    Yes... Yes... It is all supposition.  I get it and I was expecting such replies.  Your position is well founded.  I will tell you something else.  This is for sure.  Any way you slice it, Adam Gase is a $hit heel... 

    And this leaves me a miffed...

    The word that we all heard was that  C. Johnson loved Gase because he was "coaching to where the league was going.  And he also had great chemistry with Sam Darnold.  Two peas in a football pod.

    I'm confused about the Gase -Danold relationship.  

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  17. 14 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

    Uh, wouldn’t he let him audible if he was trying to make him into Peyton Manning? Isn’t that what Peyton Manning does?

    No... Darnold would not be inclined to be Peyton Manning and audible to one of four plays that Manning ran with the Colts and with Gase.   That offense has four basic pass plays.  All from the pocket.  All based on timing and proficiency.  Darnold would  want to move the pocket and watch his targets progress.   Gase is trying to force an offense on Darnold that is un-natural to him.

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