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  1. 16 minutes ago, rangerous said:

    i went to Germane once.  Good beer.  the whole point is give gase some time to get the right players for his system before knocking it down.  you seem to have a clue about what's needed on the oline.  just how many of the guys who started in game 1 of last season are worth keeping around for the next season?  imo they can all be seriously upgraded and until that's done, it doesn't matter what kind of blocking technique they use.

    I'm willing to hold out hope that Gase wakes up and builds an offense that fits Darnold instead of Peyton Manning.  We'll know by halftime 2020 regular season game one.   He has smarts and dedication, but as of yet, we have not seen wisdom. He has to make a destiny for himself apart from clinging to a boiler plate from his glorious past. 

    Like Parcells said.  You never pick up where you left off last year.  You start new.  

    Look how many fans talk about Bill Bellichick's "system".  His coaching style does not change, but what specific system does he use ??? None.  He changes the system according to the roster,  2004/5 Pats offense, vs. 2019.  Different animals. 

  2. 56 minutes ago, SAR I said:


    People say Mark was a flawed quarterback, but the reality is that with the (supposed) dominant D and the (supposed) all-weather ground and pound RB Mark was just perfect.  For the way we were constructed, for the strategy Rex announced to the world, Mark was great.  Led 6 fourth quarter comebacks in 2010, elevated his game in the playoffs, was the best Jet on the field in back to back Championship games.  He had that clutch gene.  He could win the big games.

    SAR I

    Ties in to what I was saying about Sancez having concentration and focus issues.  He did concentrate and focus if the occasion itself was intense.  Either needing a big come back in a short amount of time or the pressure of a playoff game.  Those instances kept him out of complacency.  His head was often not in the game. 

  3. 17 minutes ago, SAR I said:

    Chad had 1 burst (2002) and the lemmings love him forever.

    Mark had 2 bursts (2009, 2010) and the lemmings hate him.

    SAR I

    I liked Sanchez in general, but he was clearly a badly flawed QB.  I think Sanchez had those two bursts because the defense kept them in the running and Rex/Schotty went to great lengths to protect Sanchez from himself.  I still believe all of Sanchez's limitations were mental.  Not that he wasn't smart, but he didn't concentrate/focus all the time.  His head wasn't really into the game.  Nice arm, great feet, likable personality, but he had some sort of attention span or concentration issues.  The butt fumble was one of the more visible results of that and so were all the short outside passes to his left that wound up in his own end-zone for 6 points going the wrong way.  All about awareness and concentration.  We are watching a DB in clear position to jump the rout and Walter Mitty Sanchez is on a beach in CA in white swim trunks hanging with super models.  

  4. 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said:

    2010 was the year, 2009 was a team a year away that overachieved.  But yes as well as Sanchez played in the playoffs that first half not just from him, but the WHOLE team including coaching staff fell asleep at the wheel in the first half of that Steelers game shame.

    The fist half of the Steeler playoff game totally pissed me off.  Defense was missing tackles, playing like scrubs and so on.  Rex should have burned a time out during the middle of the first quarter when the defense was on the field and called the entire group over to the sideline for an intense ass-chewing.  It was really the right time for that sort of intervention.  

  5. 1 hour ago, 20andOut said:

    Wait so you are saying Gase is stubborn and addicted to one system, which you then say he changed as soon as Darnold made some suggestions?????????????????????? 

    And yes the Caine Mutiny is an excellent movie.

    He didn't change his offense completely and permanently, but he did start tossing in things that are not characteristic of the offense he seems to be stuck on.  It was obvious that Darnold was doing better executing plays that are more suited to his skill set. 

    The larger point that I am making with Queeg and the Strawberries as it applies to Gase, is that both Queeg and Gase are holding on to what they succeeded at with in the past even though it no longer applies to their current situation. And, the compelling fact is that neither Queeg or Gase was/is short on ability and smarts.  They both malfunctioned due to the defects of their qualities.  Queeg because he had combat fatigue/PTSD, and Gase because he is probably in over his head and is clinging to a security blanket.  That security blanket being an offensive system/philosophy that he saw success with in the past.  Just like Queeg saw success in the past with his great "chease investigation".  So... In their insecurities,  Queeg starts looking for strawberries and Gase keeps running an offense that is not appropriate for his current roster.  At least,  with Queeg, we can give him a pass cause he's got PTSD.  No excuse for Gase other than being a stubborn child in over his head.

  6. 14 minutes ago, pdxgreen said:

    Was just looking this scene up the other day.  One of the greatest scenes in movie history and totally turns the film on it's head.  Surprised that movie doesn't get brought up more when they mention films about military service.  As much as people like to talk about more modern dramas... this one is just as insightful.

    One of my favorite movies of all time and one of the best acting performances in cinematic history.  

    The first Bogie movie I ever saw was African Queen when I was a kid. That was long before I even know who Bogie was.  Loved that movie. I didn't think that the "Mr. Allnutt" could ever be anyone else other than Mr. Allnutt.  A few years later I saw The Caine Mutiny.  The way Bogie played Queeg was so good, I didn't even realize it was the same guy that played Mr. Allnutt.   If I had seen Caine Mutiny first, I'd be certain that Bogie was Queeg and could only be Queeg and no one else.   He played both roles *that* well.   Truly the Joe Montana/Tom Brady of acting. 

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  7. 15 hours ago, Lupz27 said:

    You sure your not talking about Brian Schottenheimer?

    When Schotty was with the Jets Callahan was running the line for the most part. He used a combo of man and zone. I liked him a lot. What I remember most about the Schotty offense when he was with the Jets was the almost haphazard way the Jets offense went from doing one thing to the other.  For example.  They would be running the ball well from a pro set and then, for no apparent reason, they would start running an unbalanced line.  Then they would go empty backfield, then two tight ends, then spread, then tight set.  It was said that the Jets tendency was that they had no tendency Lie they were just pulling plays out of their ass with no thought to it.  All of this was done to protect Sanchez.  Keep the defense off balance, bewildered and wondering what the hell the Jets were going to do next.  It made no sense unless you consider just how badly Sanchez wanted to throw the ball to the DB jumping the routs.  

    I wish the Jets had a better QB in 2009 and 2010.  True, Sanchez did OK in the playoffs with the Jets, but if they had a more dynamic offense that scored more points, Rex and the Jets might have gotten that ring circa 2009 - 2010.

  8. 27 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

    Just woke up. You're right. Forgot about the connection to previous investigation. With that said, the analogy is pretty terrible. Back to bed now...

    Not an analogy.  I was illustrating the parallel between Queeg's reverting to previous behavior and Gase leaning on a scheme that he saw success with in the past.  It was something different for a change.  A novel way to make point. 

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  9. 14 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

    Thinking to go Offensive Linemen for the past half-decade plus? 


    Not a joke at all. 

    Pardon... When you replied to that post, it looked like you agreed with having good pass blocking AND choosing QW too.  As if you were in favor of the QW pick.  It appeared contradictory.   



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  10. 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

    I don't know anything... So, please, tell me which one the Jets current offensive lineman would have been good at, and why.  Thanks in advance.

    That question is not germane to the compelling issue here.  You can have five poorly performing lineman in a zone scheme with plays drawn up for a static pocket or five poorly performing lineman in an aggressive man scheme executing plays drawn up with a lot of line shifting and motion. 

    Which would be better for Darnold ???

    Which would be better for a QB with a great arm, quick release and lots of lead in his ass ???


  11. 7 minutes ago, TeddEY said:

    Which offensive system doesn’t rely on competent run or pass blocking?

    I suppose you don't know the difference between a man blocking scheme and a zone blocking scheme ??? I also assume you don't understand why you would want a static pocket with one QB vs. a line that is built and tasked to move laterally much more often than a line that is built and run for a drop back passer with lead in his ass ???

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  12. Gase Is Intelligent, Hard Working & Dedicated, But Is He Pathologically Addicted To A System That Does Not Fit His Current Command ???

    Like many others, I have been very critical of Gase...  

    I'll try to look on the bright side, since we are stuck with him.

    He is clearly intelligent and hard working, but he as been stubborn.  I think most can see that he is married to specific offensive system that he feels comfortable with.  Or, perhaps, addicted to.  Like Captain Queeg trying to relive past successes by looking for the missing strawberries...

    The system that he seems to be addicted to consists of a zone blocking scheme with a static pocket and a very basic and short set of pass plays that depend on absolute precision from the QB and pass catcher with respect to timing and ball placement.  The exact system you want to run with a QB that has the skill set of Peyton Manning.  The blocking scheme is also a lot better for a powerful straight ahead runner.  It does not favor a cut-back runner or any other type of ball carrier that reacts to opportunities (BELL)

    After Darnold had his "talk" with Gase, the following game, we saw a different offense.  We saw a lot more aggressive man blocking up front.  We saw the pocket move.  We saw Darnold move.  We also saw a lot more production.  Darnold looked comfortable and confident.  Not like a fish out of water as he had been in the system Gase seems to be queer for,

    I have NO DOUBT that Gase can design and run an offense that is much better suited for Darnold and Bell rather than sticking with a zone blocking and a static pocket,

    The question is, will he ???

    It is time for Gase to realize he has to stop looking for the missing strawberries...


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  13. 16 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

    Our OL was great with Mawae and Mangold. 

    Free Agents 

    Connor McGovern  Broncos

    B.J Finney Steelers

    Ted Karras NE 

    Ben Garland SF 

    Here's how ya do it.  Good scouting.   I *GUARANTEE* there is an interior lineman in the draft who's name is not yet known to the talking heads.  This individual will be drafted between round 4 and 7.  He has all the physical tools and intangibles to follow in the footsteps of Schmidt, Fields, Sweeny, Mawae & Mangold...

    Is JD a good GM ??? Does he run a good scouting department ???

    If so, that as of yet unnamed individual will be a Jet in 2020. 

  14. 3 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

    Welp, 6 games suspended with contrition is the going rate for swinging a NFL helmet to the head. 

    I would never expect anything judicious from Goodell.  He's best and most often executed "football move" is stepping on his own dick.

  15. On 2/8/2020 at 11:25 PM, Maxman said:

    Kelvin Beachum back on a two year deal

    Left Guard - free agency

    Center - Round Two of the draft

    Right Guard - free agency

    Right Tackle - Edoga

    1st round pick = Jerry Jeudy

    Have you completely lost your mind ??? Edoga at RT ?  

    Do you harbor ill feelings towards Sam Darnold ??? Perhaps you have Sammy D. voodoo doll that you have been sticking pins in ???

    From where I am sitting and watching (on my arse at home), Edoga is not going to be a staring outside offensive lineman.  He may or may not work out as an interior lineman should the Jets try him there, but I would not start out with the plan to have him as the starting RT.

    I'd be somewhat happy with this...

    Lets start with LT. 

    1.  FA to fill the LT or RT spot.  I prefer Castonzo.  The fact that he and his agent are saying he may retire is a sure sign that he is open to change teams for a big fat contract.  I want to see JD make him a fat offer.  Plug him in at LT and you have a top notch pass blocker and top notch run blocker for at least 4 years.


    2. Jets get VERY lucky and Andrew Thomas falls to # 11.  He is the only guy in the draft I want at LT.  Especially with Darnold as the QB.  You want lineman that will work well in an aggressive man blocking scheme with lots of ability for lateral motion.  The pocket MUST move to take advantage of the best Darnold has to offer.

    At Right Offensive Tackle.

    2. Draft Wirfs for RT.  I specifically want him on the right side.  I don't want Wills on the right side and I am not high on Mekhi Becton.  Take what the talking heads are saying about Becton and toss it out the window.  Anyway you slice it, at the pro level he is a developmental project with "potential".  He has all the impressive measureables and sure does look amazing on tape when knocking over defensive lineman that wont even make it on to a pro team as an undrafted FA.   Anyone remember VLAD ??? This is VLAD II.

    Guards and Center

    Rounds 4-7 will afford them PLENTY of good prospects if their scouting is anything better than nonexistent.  Again, I'd prefer the more athletic and versatile interior lineman that can move and play in a man-blocking scheme.  Between picking up two interior lineman in the draft and the committee they all ready have on the roster, they will be able to field two solid guards and a center.  I would not be worried at all if they retain Harrison as their starting center.  I think he did a fine job and will look a lot better once they fill the other positions with quality. 

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  16. 36 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

    We believe Deacon Jones now?  He is full of sh*t.  I think he was counting half sacks as 1.  The independent count has him at 22 (twice) , same as Gastineau, but in a 14 game season.  Of course he could use the headslap.   They have Coy Bacon as number 1. 

    Deacon gets credit for inventing the term "sack" and Gastineau and the Sack Exchange and LT got it registered as an official statistic.  As Jack Youngblood said, teams always tracked them - he got paid for them which is probably what makes Deacon think he had 26. 

    Who is the real single-season NFL sack king?

    Pretty good article.  

    IMHO... Aside from the numbers being tossed out, 22, 22.5, 26, etc... 

    The best way to decide on who is the true sack-master comes down to the eye test.  Leave the controversial statistic on the side for a bit.

    Deacon Jones and Strhan were obviously very skilled players that put in a major effort when ever they were on the field.  Both of them were really splendid players.

    When judging on, speed, quickness, power, fancy moves, upper body strength, leg and lower body strength, The whole packaging put together in action on the field to get results...

     Gastinuea wins in every category.  

    There was never a better pure pass rusher than Gastineau.  

    It is fair to say that Deacon Jones and Strahan were more complete football players given that Gastineau was known to ignore the ball carrier on the way to the QB, but neither of them were as skilled as Gastineau with respect to the pass rush.  Not even close...

    I don't need the stat.  My eyes saw it all...

  17. Shame on Strahan for colluding with Favre to win an award/title he didn't truly earn.

    Shame on Gastineau for bringing this up now long after he congratulated and even kissed Strahan on TV.  Be the bigger and better sport and stand pat on what you did.  Everyone knows Strahan's record is a media given fraud.

    I suggest this.

    Take the record away from Strahan... And...

    Give it to


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