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  1. 1 hour ago, JerseyJoe67 said:

    Not sticking up for Zack here but to be honest this team as a whole has not been showing any signs of growth in any capacity under this coaching staff.
     

    Agree with this fully.  Hard to make any evaluation on any single area of the team be it the players or the coaches when *everything* is just so bad.  

    From the beginning, I liked Saleh as a coach.  The more I watch the Jets, the more I am compelled to think otherwise. 

  2. 1 hour ago, DoomProphet said:
     
    Last night I was on guest on "Let's Talk Jets Radio" and we discussed a myriad of topics including addressing the fans who think we are "too negative".
     
    To those fans I say:  I would love to celebrating a winning team but as Bill Parcells famously said "You are what your record is." and at 2-8 there hasn't been much to celebrate this year. I call it like I see them and telling the truth doesn't make me less of fan.
     
    I'd be more than happy to listen to your side if you explain why I am wrong and an intelligent mature way. I would love for you to be right and that everything will be great with the Jets but I need to see results first because this fan base has been promised over and over a better product and the results have been the same.
     
    Let me know what you guys think:

    The best way to be a Jets fan is to have zero expectations regarding on-field performance.  Consider that it is going to be awful as it has been, is and will continue to be, if and until the team is sold and sold to a new owner that can hire people who can successfully run a winning football team.

    Since that is not going to happen anytime soon, or ever for that matter consider game time at home or at the stadium as three hours to relax or have a tailgate.  

    I put the game on either the radio if I'm outside or on the TV if I'm inside, but I always make sure I have something else to do to keep my mind occupied.  Yard work outside or some task or project inside while the game is on.  It's never wasted time.

    With respect to winning on the field, the Jets organization is awful.  It starts at the top and no change there is in site.  

    That is not negative trolling.  It's fact. 

    Combine the games with something else you enjoy and you can't go wrong. 

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  3. 23 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

    I raised this question in the "What is the most embarrassing moment in Jets' history?" post.  There were some great responses so I figured I'd give this its own post.  This is all part of my "relish the pain" approach in trying to change the karma on Jets' history.

    Some names that came up in that other post were:

    Chad Pennington

    Rex Ryan

    Richard Todd

     

    Hmmm... 

    Jetsy in a good way.  Namath.  

    Jetsy in a bad way ??? Well, Chad, Rex and Todd all had some great moments.  I liked all three of them.  Even  Sanchez of butt fumble fame had a lot of good moments. The comebacks, decent play in the playoff games, etc...

    To be Jetsy in a bad way, you need to be able to clearly identify that player with the Jets and that player also needs to have made a big splash followed by an embarrassing face plant. 

    I'd say some good candidates would be: Dwayne Robertson & Johnny Mitchell.   Blair Thomas and Gholston were also notable flops, but neither had the self promoting mouth that Robertson and Mitchell had.   If you fail quietly, it is not very Jetsy.  If you run your mouth, fail and look like a total ass, they you've reached the apex of Jettitude. 

     

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  4. On 11/15/2021 at 11:51 AM, Untouchable said:

    Yeah, but they aren’t.

    Sooo…

    Might as well just hope that Wilson is the real deal and offsets owner incompetence.

    Wilson is a developmental project and he is not being developed.  There is nobody on the Jets staff that is capable of developing a prospect like Wilson.   His fate was sealed when the Jets drafted him. 

    Get use to the Jets continued on-field failure.

    And yes, it all follows the guy at the top. 

    Bad owner = Bad Franchise.   

    Totally inept and clueless owner = The Jets

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  5. 10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    Difference is the NFL has a salary cap, so it doesn't matter how rich the owner is.  In the MLB, ownership having money to spend obviously matters a great deal.  

    Indeed.  The NFL is actually a sport.  Its corporate for sure, but every team still goes to the gaming table with the same amount of chips.  MLB is nothing more than a media exhibition.  No hard cap, no sport.   1000 compliments to the small market MLB teams that still find a way to compete.  

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  6. 2 hours ago, Rob Moore said:

    Keyshawn needs a muzzle.  He’s the epitome of “loves to hear himself talk”.  I also think their show is terrible.  ESPN radio (sports radio as a whole) overall is pretty unlistenable.  Bart and Hahn are the best thing going on espn right now.

    I thought that Michael Kay was the most torturous guy to listen to until I heard Keyshawn.  He cant string more than two words together at a time without that annoying cadence.  If you can believe it, he is even more self indulgent than Michael Kay.   His delivery style is horrendous and the content is just as bad.   ESPN radio in general is a garbage product.  The only time I have it on is during a Jets game if I'm out working in the yard.  

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  7. 15 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said:

    I believe because it was a turnover on downs the play was reviewed w/o needing a challenge. When they came back from commercial they said the ruling had been confirmed at which point Saleh then tried to challenge and obviously couldn't .

    I dig.  Thanx for clearing that up for me.  Makes sense. 

  8. On 11/15/2021 at 1:23 PM, kmnj said:

    I would take fat rex back in a heartbeat -bring in ozzie to run the gm role and let rex coach the jets

     

    The staff I want is Rex as HC and Tangini as the GM.  Magini to pick the players and Tanny to work the cap and contracts.  

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  9. On 11/15/2021 at 10:32 AM, SoFlaJets said:

    I never saw a team go for it on 4th down down up over 30 points before it happened a few weeks ago. And I've watched a lot of football games in this half century 

    Interesting.  This is the first time I'm considering this.  And the officials didn't do a thing when Wilson was targeted twice in the Patriots game and the officials told Selah, FU ! when he wanted a challenge last week.  Hmmm.  Could he be disliked by many insiders for reasons unknown ???

  10. 3 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

    A monkey can call the Jets D because it is predicated on beating the guy in front of you. The only wrinkle is whether the back 7 are in zone or man coverage. It is light on blitzes and relies on a penetrating D line. The Bottom line is that this Jets D has suffered far too many injuries to starters for a D design reliant on talented players to ever coalesce and perform at even an average level.  

    Egg-Zactly.  The defense Saleh is running is driven by the premise that your talent will be making plays for you 1v1.  And, they have very little talent.  A defensive line that gets no pressure on the QB and very little push against the run.  A group of LBS that other than CJ would be 2nd string on other teams.  A swarm of unimpressive DBs/ You see the results.  If you run that defense with barely marginal players, you are going to get wiped out week in and week out.  If Rex or say Bud Carson had the same squad, at least they could scheme up a surprise or two.  

    I dont blame Saleh.  That system can work so long as your GM brings you some talented players.  JD has failed and continues to fail

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  11. 5 hours ago, GloryDays1985 said:

    Saleh needs to tell his brother to stay off Twitter. None of this is helping him.

    Rex has always been known for making outrageous comments-he’s now part of the media so you take it with a grain of salt. 

    I don’t think Saleh sounds tough at all with his response to Rex. Obviously it pisses him off, but part of his job is to absorb it portray professionalism and confidence to the public. 

     

    Agree fully.  Saleh screwed up by inviting Rex to come see him in the yard after school.

    Here is what Saleh should have said.

    "I dont know Rex, but he's a media guy now. That's his job.  We're not winning games now and that's frustrating for us and for the fans, but its temporary.  We've got a good vision that we're building towards.  One that is going to lead to sustained success on the field.  We don't have all the pieces in place yet, but when we do, I think the fans... And Rex... (laugh) are going to like us a lot better"

  12. 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

    Rex might be the most obviously insecure person I’ve ever seen. Fair that you don’t see it, bug to be honest, he’s a perfect case study for what you’re describing.

    Either way… 🤷‍♂️

    Perhaps insecure, but I don't see the lack of empathy or inability to connect with others beyond using them for adulation/narcissistic supply.  

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  13. 1 minute ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

    Rex being paid to be an a$$hole doesn't mean anything to me. He had guys like David Harris, Bart Scott, Jim Leonard, Kerry Rhodes, Calvin Pace, Darelle Revis, Bryan Thomas, and Shaun Ellis. Saleh didn't walk into an established team. Rex would have sh*t the bed with Saleh's roster. 

    Agree on that point.  Rex had weapons and Saleh has a bare locker room.  JD not doing his job.  

  14. 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

    Yes it is.

    I dont see it.  With NPD, the subject does not love or value themselves.  Contrary.  They have a deep, profound sense of inadequacy. Usually due to an unfavorable childhood or some self perceived defect.  They deal with it by adopting an image that they find to be impressive in one way or the other.  Cultivating and maintaining that image becomes obsessive to the exclusion of other social considerations.  So much so that they pay zero attention and have zero empathy for anyone around them.

    Rex may be immature and a self promoter, but I don't see NPD.  His relationships are often very warm and they flow both ways.  You hear it all the time from former players.  If he had NPD, most everyone that ever knew him would hate his guts. 

  15. 3 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

    We are going to have to disagree then. I like Saleh calling Rex's out. Shows a little bravado as opposed to Rex's false bravado. Rex is a two-time loser, and he is the LAST person to be calling out another head coach.

    Rex is employed to make that sort of commentary. And he also has a Super Bowl ring as a DC and has two AFC Champ Game appearances with the Jets. You many not like his style, but he is far from an empty bag of wind. He was also spectacular as a position coach.  He did wonders with Suggs and others on the Ravens.  Heck, he took jags like Mike DeVito and Seone Pouha and coached them up into gritty contributors.  I like both Rex and Saleh, but I'd prefer Rex as HC if I had the choice AS LLONG AS REX WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE THE DEFACTO GM... 

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  16. 10 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

    The beating that Saleh would inflict on Rex would be thorough and emasculating. Saleh runs stairs. Rex eats while he stares at his wife's feet. 

    Neither are employed to be MMA guys.   They are football coaches.  I like Saleh, but he should not have insinuated that he wound gladly welcome a physical confrontation from Rex,  He should have done was stick to how he could make himself look good and Rex look bad with coaching and not fists...

    Win a football game and get adulation and a pay raise.  Win an assault and get a conviction. 

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  17. 9 minutes ago, varjet said:

    Woody deep down loved Rex.  If you paired him with a real GM he would be a lot better.  

    Look at the good cold weather teams.  Many of them play the 3-4 defense.  

    NE, Pittsburgh, Ravens, GB.  It requires good coaching and scheme fit players.   If you want to draft athletes, you play the 4-3.  

    Agree fully.  Rex needs a strong and qualified GM behind him or he will make a mess of his own roster.  That being a given, Rex is a great HC with the Xs and Os and teaching the players and motivating the players and having a lot of fun in general along the way

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