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  1. 14 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:


    Some good points in here.  But suffice it to say that Rex being better than what we've had since doesn't say much at all.  

    True that.  And sad.  I think that Mangini might have continued to improve if he stayed longer.   He was the opposite of Rex.  Great administrator and roster guy, but not a good in game coach.  He was learning on the fly.  After a few more seasons, he might have gotten a lot better as he learned and grew into the big chair.  I also liked Bowles and thought he should have gotten a year or two more.  A smart coach who is a bit laid back like Bowles takes longer to sink into an organization than a firebrand like Rex.  The Bowles teams were never a laughing stock like the Gase teams. Gase was horrible with no chance to go anywhere but down.  Saleh is likeable when I hear him, but I'd like to see better results.  Losing games as a new HC with a new QB, youngest roster in the league and a new OC is expected, but there should be more signs of intelligent design at work. 

    Adding here that I heard Steve Young comment on the Jets today.   He said that with all the new pieces the Jets have there is no way that anyone can say where the problem is.  

  2. 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    Really?   They didn't figure him out?  You didn't notice all the overload blitzes Rex ran that offenses were fully prepared for?  You didn't notice how veteran coaches like Belichick, Marvin Lewis, and Tom Coughlin routinely blew him out in his latter 4 seasons here?

    And if the roster was the ONLY problem with Rex Ryan....Explain why he failed so miserably in Buffalo?  The same defense that was top 5 under Jim Schwartz suddenly was outside of the top 20 under Rex Ryan, and you had veteran DL on that team complaining about the issues with the scheme.

    I can't comment on Buffalo with any specific authority.  I didn't follow them when Rex was there.  I don't think you followed them either.  If you did, you'd know that the overload blitzing decreased markedly when he was with the Bills.

    Analysis: Why Rex Ryan's defense failed in Buffalo | Buffalo Bills News | NFL | buffalonews.com

    I've read and heard many former coaches and players comment on Ryan's tenure with the Bills.  Ed Reed who coached under Rex suggested that the coaching staff Rex assembled didn't work well together.  The explanation I tend to agree with is that there was a conflict in philosophies among players and coaches that became an impediment to progress.  

    His lack of success with Buffalo had nothing to do with the "league figuring him out".  

    His decline with the Jets had nothing to do with the "league figuring him out" 

    More along the lines that he was bad at picking assistants and players and zero to do with X's and O's

    I always laud Rex for his ability to scheme, but I also believe he was too much of an emotional reactionary with regard to making player/roster/staff decisions.  Great in game coach, bad administrator.

    Still... With a strong GM in place as a backstop against allowing Rex to wreck his own roster, I'd gladly take him over what we have now, or Gase or Bowles 

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  3. 19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

    They were outscored by 97 points that season.  Arguably the least competitive 8-8 season of all-time.  And thus it was no surprise when basically the exact same team went 4-12 the following season.

    Rex gave us 2 fun seasons.  Then the league figured him out and he sucked from 2011-2016.  He couldn't even get an interview for the U of Miami HC job a few years back.

    Let it go.  

    The league didn't figure him out.  The manpower on the roster was the issue.   Rex was largely to blame for that.  Although not widely reported, Rex has been approached for DC jobs.  He wont consider any offer other than HC,  That is why he is not working as a coach now.  He was the best coach the Jets had since Parcells.  

  4. 2 hours ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

    The lies, the obfuscation, the outright deriliction of duty continues....Kay, LaGreca, Rosenberg not buying the insipid excuses anymore...Saleh stating that even with concussed Elijah Moore, Mims is continuing to 'show progess and is working hard' to try to get on the field...this is insane what is going on and clearly we are being lied to.


    Could it be possible that they are protecting Mims ??? Perhaps he is dealing with health/mental health/cognitive issues that they don't want to go pubic ???

    Just a very wild guess/suggestion... 

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  5. 1 hour ago, bgivs21 said:

    You're right, something needs to change and it's up to Saleh. 

    Personally, I think the best and easiest option right now is to trim down the offense. It seems as though the CS has tried to cram way too much into a limited amount of time and guys are just not understanding assignments. Trim it back, focus and perfect certain packages and expand from there. 

    Agree.   Perhaps a 2 TE offense with at least one ball carrier in the backfield for blocking/chip.  The are not going to win games, so they should at least save the QBs career/life  Lots of running with extra blockers up front and high percentage short passing, screens, slants, hitches, pay action, misdirection 

  6. 11 minutes ago, BP said:

    Was that the year they acted like they won the sb in Miami? Gatorade bath and speech by woody when they finished at 8-8? 

    lol momentum into next year!! Hahahaha 2014 was a train wreck

     With a roster that was almost as bad as the current roster.  2014 is the only year I recall with a lack of manpower that rivals this year.

    JD sends Darnold off to reset the clock on the QB money, but what the hell did he do with all the money he saved ??? ZERO big name stars on that roster that make big plays and win games.  No elite offensive line stud FA signings. 

    The entire roster is below JAG status.

    And.... The low cost newly drafted players are all duds.

    JD has been a total failure. 

    Johnson hires Gace

    Gace Hires JD

    JD hires Saleh

    Saleh hires OC 

    And the who's at the top of that chain ?

    And the news never gets better because Johnson wont fire himself

  7. 16 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

    I would say his schemes are outdated. A by gone era.  Offensive minds have figured him out.     

    Rex didn't have a clear base scheme.  He had a philosophy of flexibility at all three levels of the defense and unpredictability.  He did do a lot of press man in combination with overload blitzing which was a peculiarity of his that was made possible by Revis and at times Cromartie, but other than that unique tactic, there was no base defense.   Along the defensive line you would see 3 to 7 man fronts in various alignments/assignments.  Both 2 gap and 1 gap. The LBs would play on the line, at the second level and in coverage.  The DB's would press, play zone, loaded zone, cover 2, Tampa 2, cover 0, etc. 

    He adjusted on the fly as needed and kept most every game winnable even with QBs that had a propensity to turn the ball over regulary.

    The players loved and responded to him and the Jets were fun.

    His downfall was his bad judgment with roster decisions. Tanny was weak willed and let Rex shoot himself in the foot. 

    I want Rex as HC with Mangini as his director of player personnel 

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  8. 1 hour ago, KO91 said:

    Want to determine who is going to fall on the sword for this disaster. My guess is it’s LaFluer. 

    I don't know who's going to be blamed and axed, but I know who it should be.  Look all the way up at the top and you'll see the one who's clearly responsible for this mess and all the failed regimes that preceded it. Too bad that person won't fire/divest himself 

  9. 1 hour ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

    Wasn’t Riggins still around and also some other talent?  At least there was something to watch during Holtz’ short time.

    This putrid garbage I watched again yesterday had me saying out loud that the 2021 Jets are not an NFL team, and this is occurring year after year now.  It’s rare that you see a team get totally MAN HANDLED ie. bitch slapped, like you see these Jets do on a very consistent basis.  

    Also, maybe it’s just me, but I felt like I was watching players just going through the motions and not even looking like they cared at times yesterday.

    So the team isn’t just bad, it’s horrific, and now you can throw in not even likable.

    and the uniforms look pathetic as well.  the jets are a total loss. 

  10. 3 hours ago, doitny said:

    what else is left to do. hate them. hate JD? then i got to root against them so i can get rid of JD.

    and we did get owned yesterday, no doubt about that. but did Carolina owned us? rough first half but the 2nd half gave us some hope. 

    did NE own us? Zach doesnt throw 4 INTs and its a close game. rest of the team played well.


    hate has nothing to do with it.  this is about product quality.  the fans should hire a law firm and sue the jets for product liability.


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  11. 1 hour ago, Grandy said:

    We're cursed, like legitimately.

    The best thing the Johnsons can do is hire an exorcist, priest, or any competent user of voodoo magic to be our next GM/HC/Target of anger. Texans were ahead of their time man. 

    Also scrap these garbage uniforms already. Can we at least look good while blowing horse c*ck? I mean, the Mets have that going for them.

    New owner needed.   That wont happen, so get used to the rest of the decade seeing the Jets continuing their run as a word class laughingstock 

  12. This is clearly the worst Jets team I have seen.  Worse than the Gase teams.  Worse than the Kotite teams.  The roster is horrible. The coaching is bad. The defense does not scare any of the opposing QBs. The design of the offense makes little Schotty Jr. look like Walsh.  The new QB is already going up the spout.  

    And like I always say.   It starts at the very top. 

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  13. I used to have season tickets.  Not any longer. I *was* a third generation ticket holder.  It went from Grandfather, to my father to me.  

    I was always put off by having to pay full price for two preseason tickets.  Then the PSL's came along.  Seemed a bit disrespectful and rapacious.   But, I went along with it because I still had fun at the games.  

    Then, they signed Michael Vick.  That was the end of the line for me. 

    I cancelled my tickets and pawned my PSL. 

    The greed didn't drive me away nor did the poor on-filed performance.  I was disgusted by an owner/gm that thought it was a good idea to bring Vick on board.  Considering what I knew about his exploits, I could not bring myself to rout for them. 

    I also know several other long time ticket holders that walked away after that. 

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