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  1. 5 hours ago, Jetfuel88 said:

    Who do you see as the Jets  starting OL for next season. 
     

    LT- Andrew Thomas (R)

    LG- joe Thuney 

    C- Tyler Biadasz (R)

    RG- Choma Edoga 

    RT- Jack Conklin 

    Edoga may or may not work out on the inside. but he is NOT going to work out on the outside.  Thuney is no better than Harrison or Compton. I would not waste any money on Thuney.  One of the tackle spots will be held by Beachum and the other will go to the first round draft pick.  Two to three of the interior lineman are already on the roster.  One to two will be filled in the draft or perhaps one in the draft and one in FA. 

    LT; Thomas or Wirfs Or Wills

    LG. Compton, Harrison or 5th to 7th round pick. 

    C; Harrison or 2nd to 4th round draft pick

    RG. Compton, Harrison, Edoga or 5th to 7th round pick

    RT. Beachum or FA or possibly 3rd rd to 4th round pick (this draft is VERY deep)

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  2. 5 hours ago, Jetfuel88 said:

     


    I seen the report saying he might come back. But i don’t like his play the past couple seasons. Also always injured.


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    Winters performed poorly the last two seasons and if I was the GM, Id save the cap money and let him go.  Still want to say of Winters... He did his best to soldier on and play with painful injury UNLIKE Osemele.  The medical staff told him he could play, but he decided not to.  

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  3. 3 hours ago, nycdan said:

    Chase Young is a QB now? LOL  He does everything!

    LOLZ... Yes, he is an edge guy, but he is going to go in the top ten WITH THE QB's.  So... 4 QB plus one edge is at least five teams not taking o-line before the Jets pick... 

    Then figure in the teams not likely to take a QB, O-Line OR be in position to take the edge guy....

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  4. Ahhh... More good news.  Yet another QB is entering the conversation as a possible top ten pick.  It could be that all of the following get selected before 11

    Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Jordan Love, Chase Young. (that's five spots filled in the top ten with QBs)

    It is also unlikely that the Lions or Jaguars will be selecting an offensive lineman with their first overall pick.  (so that makes 7 teams in the top ten that will almost certainly not soak up *any* of the three top offensive lineman.

    The Panthers may or may not take an offensive lineman. It is more likely that they will go defense.  That makes 8 teams that will be good to us :-)

    And there is a good chance that one of the GM's for the Giants, Cardinals or Browns will be enamored with the measure'ables of Mekhi Beckton, hence... Leaving one of the top three offensive tackles for us <

    Very good for the Jets.  Thomas or Wirfs or Wills will probably still be on the board at # 11.

    https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/nfl-combine-buzz-on-quarterbacks-jordan-love-and-justin-herbert-could-benefit-je

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  5. On 2/27/2020 at 10:25 AM, PepPep said:

    Rumors are going to fly up until the draft and most will be untrue. I'm actually a big fan of Ruggs and I think he could be one of the best receivers in this class. He's not just a speedster but he has great hands, good size/catch radius, good route running, fights for the ball, makes the spectacular catches. He can pretty much do it all. 

    I'm not on board for this pick if a top OT is on the board, but if the Jets really like him and the top O-linemen are gone, I'm fine with Ruggs over Jeudy or Lamb if the Jets really felt like he was the right player for them.

    https://www.jetnation.com/2020/02/27/jets-fans-less-than-thrilled-with-ruggs-rumor/

    Five scouting-combine performances that should intrigue the Jets: 1. LT Mekhi Becton. How well can a 369-pound man move? 2. WR Henry Ruggs III. Think Tyreek Hill. The Jets have had their eye on him for a while. 3. WR CeeDee Lamb. Curious about 40 time. Might not be as fast as other top WRs. 4. C Cesar Ruiz. Would be a steal in the second round. Can play guard, too. 5. RB D'Andre Swift. Fast and versatile. Would be nice complement to Le'Veon Bell.

     
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    Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer1d ago

    One comment I want to add here about NFL WR's.  40 time is no where near as important as speed and quickness in pads during a real game and how aggressive the player is to the ball.  You want a good 40 time of course, but absolute flat out speed does not make a good WR.

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  6. 2 hours ago, long time suffering Jets f said:

    Let's go Joe sign both of them!

    Neither.  Conklin may have a hard time staying on the field, is not a good pass blocker and Thuney is not too far in advance than the interior lineman they already have.

    Since Castonzo is going back to the Colts and Conklin is a probable waste of money...

    Do this.

    Rely on Beachum for one of the tackle spots

    Draft Thomas or Wirfs or Wills for the other tackle spot.

    Use later rounds to add two more interior lineman.

    That is how it should be... 

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  7. 29 minutes ago, nycdan said:

    I know we need a WR in the 2nd round, assuming we take an OT in the 1st, but damn, I'm really starting to like the idea of Felix Ruiz if he's still there.

    This draft is going to see productive WR's taken all the way into round 4

  8. 34 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said:

    It'd be pretty cool to have a center and a long snapper that are brothers. Make it happen Tanny. 

    Tanny ??? Does that mean you are suggesting that Tanny was prone to emotional reactionary draft and FA selections ??? I  know he was too much of a push over for Rex who destroyed his own tenure with the Jets by horrendous roster management, but I don't think Tanny was the driving force.  He was just the weak willed fellow that let a child go to the candy store on his own... 

  9. 6 minutes ago, section314 said:

    One can only hope he is not currently on the roster, and I'll leave it at that.😎

    With the current state of affairs regarding the offensive line, the Jets will have to be looking everywhere including division III for manpower... 

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  10. 1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

    Sign Conklin and Thuney.  Overpay if you have to

    Not Conklin.  Please, no.  Not dependable and a below average pass blocker.  Keep Beachum and draft Wills, Wirfs or Thomas.  it is OK to spend a lot of money on a OT *if* they deliver the goods, but signing Conklin is pissing away good money...  I was SOOOO hoping for Castanzo and pairing him with Thomas, or Wirfs or Wills... Sh*t !!! Pi$s !!! Damn !!!

  11. On 2/25/2020 at 2:38 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001103031/article/colts-gm-lt-anthony-castonzo-returning-for-2020

     

    Colts GM: LT Anthony Castonzo returning for 2020

     
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    • By Grant Gordon NFL.com
    • Published: Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
    • Updated: Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.

     

    Though the Colts ultimately fell short of expectations in 2019, their offensive line was as formidable as advertised.

    Ranked third among the league's O-lines at season's end by Pro Football Focus, the Colts' band of bruisers received positive news Tuesday from within Lucas Oil Stadium as Indianapolis general manager Chris Ballard told the media that left tackle Anthony Castonzo has officially announced his intention to return to the team in 2020 for his 10th season.

    Castonzo, 31, had hinted at possibly retiring following the 2019 campaign, but has now told Ballard he's coming back.

    The matter at hand will now be re-signing the free-agent offensive tackle, who's played 132 games for the Colts, starting all of them and somehow unbelievably never having made a Pro Bowl. The 6-foot-7, 307-pound Castonzo weighs in at No. 24 on the NFL.com free-agent list.

    The long-haired people mover allowed just three sacks in 2019 as he earned a stellar 84.4 pass-blocking grade via PFF and an 81.3 overall rating -- which tied him at seventh among all NFL tackles.

    Just two days earlier, Colts owner Jim Irsay said there was a "strong likelihood that he will come back," it appears that's just the case.

    And thus, one of the best tackles is on track to return to one of the best offensive lines in the NFL.

    F**K !!!  

  12. 17 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

    Conklin has a checkered injury history and is pretty poorly rated as a pass blocker. I don’t think he should be in the conversation for the amount of money he’s going to command.

    Thuney or Glasgow are probably the way to go when we’re talking about signing o-lineman that will command premium money. We should pursue both aggressively and hope to land one. 

    After that, I think it’s depth lineman in free agency and a serious, offensive-line centric draft strategy.

    Agree fully on Conklin.  I would not pursue him.  I want Castanzo...

  13. 51 minutes ago, Jetster said:

    Granted, they have to want to come to NY, but I don't understand why we can't try & sign 1 stud like Conklin & 2 grinders like Glasgow & Vaitai if they are available. Your not going to protect Sam with a bunch of rookies. 

    A trifecta of Conklin- Glasgow- Vaitai

    We have nobody being paid yet on offense other than Bell & he can be dumped in 2021 if we grab a stud RB with our second 3rd rounder this year. We could take not one but two freaking stud WRs. Ceedee at #1, Best available Center at #2, best WR left with our 1st 3rd rounder (Gandy?) take another Oline project @ 4,  plus Trumaine Johnson will be off the books in 2021 too. 

    For years this team has loaded up on the Dline & defense in general. Time for the offensive side of the trenches to get the most dough planted in it so we can get the best out of Sam Darnold surrounded with playmakers. 

    I know it is not likely, but I have been HOPING the Jets can land Castonzo.  If they can manage that & come away from the draft with either Wills or Wirfs, it would be fantastic.  Like it or not, one if not two of the current Jets interior lineman will be starters in 2020.  Harrison at center would be OK.  He did a nice job.  The Jets will also have ample opportunity to draft a starting interior lineman in rounds 5-7.  This all depends on the Joe D. managing to coax Castanzo to come sign with the Jets... 

  14. 32 minutes ago, RichardTodd27 said:

    Don't be so sure that he'll even be around. Now we're hearing Beckton may go to the Giants at #4. (Good for us).

    My top pick would be Andrew Thomas.  There is still a chance he can fall to # 11.  My second best pick would be Wirfs if he is available and Thomas is not.  If either of them is not available, I'd go for Wills.  Love his agility, but not sure if he has the length to be an ideal LT.  Perhaps he'd be better as a RT.  If the Jets run an offense that is best suited for Darnold, you will see the pocket move very often.  A fluid player like Wills would still be a nice addition.  I would stay away from Becton despite the size and athleticism.  He *may* turn out to be the stud lineman of the draft after a few seasons of learning, but he may also wind up being another Vlad Ducasse.  The Jets simply cant afford to whiff on this pick.  I would not take the chance.  If Thomas, Wirfs and Wills are all gone, trade down or take one of the two top WR's.  

  15. There is no way around the critical situation the Jets are facing.  No way to sugar coat it.  No bright side to look on. The Jets do not have a single starting quality player at any of the offensive line positions.  

    Here is where the Jets stand from an evaluation based strictly on the talent and ability of the individual offensive lineman that they can have on the roster if they so choose.  

    1.  Edoga. does not have the skill set to play on the outside of the line.  It is possible that he can work out on the interior, but that is just wishful thinking.  All considerations for cap space and lost contact money aside, I would not want him on the roster, period. 

    2. Tom Compton.  I rate him as a solid and reliable back-up, but I do not want him as a starter.

    3. Jonotthan. Harrison.  From what I was seeing, I'd actually rate Harrison as their best lineman when playing at center. I'd go so far as to call him a bottom third of the league starter at the center position.  If the Jets have to retain any of their current lineman as a starter, he'd be the one I'd want.

    4. Beachum. Another solid back-up.  I'd rate him as a top tier back-up at the LT position.   He is NOT want you want as a starting LT, but if your franchise LT went down, you wont have to worry about the season going down the tubes due to a dead QB.  I would only want him as a back-up.  He's not a starter.

    5. Shell. Big and sluggish.  So sluggish, he has not been able to take advantage of any leverage such a large RT should be able to bring to bare.  At first, I considered him a developmental guy that could be coached up, but now, I don't even want him as a back-up on the outside. 

    6. Ben Braden.  Has the size, but from what little I have seen, he's sloppy and has heavy feet.  Strictly developmental.  Not even considered as a back-up.

    7. Kalil.  Major, MAJOR props and recognition for a career as one of the best in the league at C.  Please, stay home and reflect on a great career.   His name should not be on any active roster. 

    8.  Kafusi.  Another developmental player.  An intriguing one.  Undersized, but agile and fluid. 

    9. Alex Lewis.  Unaccomplished journeyman of 4 years

    10. Connor McDermot.  Unaccomplished journeyman of 3 years.  Big and strong, lacking in technique. 

    11. James Murray. Barely developmental. 

    12. Qvale.  Good enough to be considered a great back-up, but only within the context of the current Jets stable of offensive lineman.

    13. Winters - Versatile, but once again, only good enough to be considered as an option if you are the 2020 Jets.  

    So, there you have it.  Out of the entire batch, you have one player that could be rated as a bottom tier starter.  That would be Harrison at Center.

    And here is another *pisser* for you.  Mekhi Becton is being mentioned as a possible first round pick for the Jets.  Would that not be a total kick in the ass ??? Beckton is Vlad Ducasse the sequel. 

    How in hell do you find four starters in one off-season ???

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