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OCCH23

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  1. As I said, I place a higher priority on hundreds of millions of livelihoods over hundreds of thousands of lives, especially when so many of those lives aren't impacted by how society acts (like those in nursing homes). If that makes me a bad person, so be it . . .
  2. If they're saying it's "very rare" that asymptomatic people can pass the virus to others, and also saying up to 80% of the population are asymptomatic, then yes -- this isn't anywhere near as contagious as they feared . . .
  3. According to the WHO's recent comments that appears to not be the case after all . . .
  4. I know it's a tired argument, but are 250,000-500,000 global deaths from the flu a "staggering" number of dead people? Because life didn't skip a beat for them. https://www.medscape.com/answers/219557-3459/what-is-the-global-incidence-of-influenza Everything is relative. You can quote 110,000 deaths, I can quote 0.1% mortality rate for non-senior citizens. Doesn't make one right and one wrong, but IMO people should be allowed to live lives the way they choose, not have that choice made for them . . .
  5. I appreciate the time you put into the response, but respectfully agree to disagree. Gholston did NOTHING and cost us more draft capital than pretty much anyone up there. I suppose you could argue Robertson (since we actually traded up to get him) but he at least lasted 5 years and was playing with an arthritic condition. Hack was by far the "worst" but cost us a late second as opposed to an early first. Like you said, it depends on the definition of "bust" -- I see Gholston's picture next to the word in the dictionary. Some of the posts above me talk about who could have been picked instead, and to me that has NOTHING to do with the "bust" label. I just pray I live long enough to have a debate about the BEST Jet draft pick one day, instead of always being stuck with the WORST . . .
  6. In all honesty I can't think of a "bust" bigger than Gholston -- he checked EVERY box. Can you name a bigger one?
  7. So is 40,000,000 losing their jobs, businessess, homes, etc. So is the rise in child abuse. So is the decline in social services for people who need it most. If you think an 88 year old dying is worse than a 48 year old not being able to provide for his family, we'll agree to disagree (especially when the 88 year old can wear a mask, but the 48 year old had everything taken away from him in the blink of an eye) . . .
  8. This actually illustrates my point. Everyone is so focused on "don't become complacent with your health", but that's something we can control -- let everyone take personal responsibility for their health. But the economic devastation so many are facing? They had NO say in that whatsoever, but most/many seem to have an "it will all work out just don't get sick" attitude. There is REAL suffering going on out there, and it has nothing to do with catching the virus . . .
  9. A more accurate poll would have included age/health. Some people are flat-out paranoid and think the world should stop for a .2% mortality rate, while others have relevant concerns due to their own personal situation . . .
  10. I don't think people realize that anything these governors say are GUIDELINES, not LAWS. They technically can't do anything if/when people break them (other than issuing summons that would get thrown out once they got to court). Having said that, I'm not advocating mass rebellion, but I wouldn't call people who are about to lose their businesses "suckers" . . .
  11. I find it hard to believe any business would have chosen to close for 2+ months simply because of their specific employees health situation, but no reason to go down that road. My original point was I hope they play games with fans, not just so people can choose for themselves if they want to go, but also so 1000's of people will have a source of income back (if they choose to utilize it). If you agree with that, great. If not, then have a great day anyway. Go Jets
  12. I disagree that the millions being affected are being given the same consideration as the thousands getting sick. Those "mistakes that were made" were conscious decisions, not unfortunate side-effects. IMO the priority should be opening the country, while managing the sickness best we can, not the other way around. But I understand this isn't the place to debate it, which is why I'm tip-toeing around my posts . . .
  13. It better be a virtual grad or someone's gonna be in trouble . . .
  14. The "argument" is I'd rather see people in the stands because it means 1,000s will have jobs. Of course I'll take football any way I can get it, I'm just amazed at how many people focus on the .2% who can die from this virus but ignore the MILLIONS of healthy people having their lives ruined . . .
  15. True, my post was poorly worded. What I meant was the only "benefit" of playing games without fans is the owners make more money, whereas if there are fans thousands of people who DO need the money will have a job to go to each weekend . . .
  16. You may not need it, but you have the freedom to choose it . . .
  17. LOL -- apparently .2% of the population is now known as "the entire populace" . . .
  18. I was comparing a season with no fans to no season at all. That's A LOT of TV revenue to pass up and I'd have to think they'd be willing to make any concession to keep it, but what do I know . . .
  19. If they have the season without fans, then it really is just about the $$$. So many people would still be out of work (concessions, security, tickets, etc). It continues to amaze me how worried everyone is about .2% of the population while seemingly not caring at all about the MILLIONS being affected . . .
  20. The problem is the rest of us who DON'T want to live that way are being forced to as well (except the fear part) . . . (Before I get banned that's NOT a political opinion -- just stating a fact)
  21. I'll be more inclined to believe this is an issue when we're presented with real-life examples of minorities being "looked over". I mean, look at how the media jumped ALL OVER the Colin Kapernick thing. Whether you believe that's a race issue or not is irrelevant -- they LOVE putting a face to the cause, yet they don't seem able to do that here? It's always some ambiguous "there should be more minorities!!!" based on general statistics, the same statistics that imply there's TOO MANY minority athletes! I'm not saying those examples aren't out there, just that I haven't seen them, which is interesting seeing as this is "such a big issue" . . .
  22. If you're saying you have a mask that covers your eyes, then we're not thinking of the same mask (or one I've seen the vast majority of people wearing). I was referring more to the fact that it's not an airborne virus -- you don't run the risk of "breathing it in" unless someone gets ridiculously close to you and projectiles in your specific direction. People are MUCH more likely to get it by touching an object that has the virus on it, something a mask does not prevent. I appreciated your question and hope my response was equally mature . . .
  23. It's only effective if the mask-wearing person is sick and potentially sneezes/coughs/spits in the direction of someone ridiculously close to them, or onto something someone ultimately touches. It's useless to keep healthy people from getting sick, or on the millions of people who don't even have the virus . . .
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