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OCCH23

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  1. Let's hope you're right. There's only two reasons I can think of for why QBs throw a lot: 1) You don't have a good running game (we do) 2) You're trailing most of the game If ZW doesn't throw a lot, I have to imagine that will be a good thing for the team. If he throws a lot but doesn't produce, then we have a problem on our hands . . .
  2. OK so you're agreeing that pushing someone doesn't need to equate with misdemeanor assault, it's more just a way for the cameraman to show how offended he was that there was no immediate apology? That's where we agree to disagree. While I understand the cameraman has the "right" to press charges, I don't think that's the next rational step in the process, and therefore feel the cameraman is showing even less "humanity" than Adams did when he shoved him. (Disclaimer -- if the cameraman truly is hurt then I agree more extreme measures may be called for . . .)
  3. Well that sailed right over your head. Have a great day . . .
  4. That isn't what I was doing. Why do you think you can tell me what I was doing?
  5. LOL so you're ok with someone being charged with assault after stating it clearly wasn't assault. Now that I know you're not interested in a rational discussion it makes it much easier for me to walk away. . .
  6. He was charged with misdemeanor assault, so I guess you have the same problem with it as I do . . .
  7. You're probably right. But when you say a civilized society needs rules, but then say you don't care if he actually pays the price for that breaking that rule, I'm not sure how else I was supposed to take it. To me the only issue is calling it a crime. A poster gave the example that pushing a secretary would get him fired, but didn't mention anything about getting arrested. That's where I draw the line -- Adams should be fined/suspended by his employer, but involving law enforcement is WAY overboard IMO, whether he actually ends up being convicted on it or not . . .
  8. This honestly confuses me (as you're not the only one to say it). So is the act what you believe he should be punished for, or his response to the act? Is he being charged with a crime because he pushed someone, or because he didn't give a good enough apology for pushing someone? I have no doubt this sounds like a sarcastic post, but I'm truly asking -- what did Adams do that "deserves" law enforcement getting involved?
  9. Yeah but none of those wins count, remember?
  10. Neither of which involve the American justice system, so I agree completely . . .
  11. So you're adamant that the law be enforced, but could care less if the consequence is? I guess you're a fan of the "no cash bail" where people commit a crime, get "arrested", and then are out the next day to commit the same crime all over again? I never said there shouldn't be any repercussions. I believe it's important for the league to fine/suspend Adams as a deterrent to future altercations. But I find it hard to believe if you pushed someone in a moment of anger that you'd think it was "only fair" to have to stand before a judge and potentially be found guilty of criminal activity . . .
  12. I downvoted you, but still respect your right to your opinion. I'm just scared to death that pushing someone to the ground (with NO additional actions) is considered worthy of spending the rest of your life with a criminal record . . .
  13. And that's what's wrong with society. I believe the league needs to suspend/fine Adams as a precedent against future altercations, but to potentially have a criminal record because you pushed someone during a moment of frustration? And to have people say that's "perfectly within the victim's rights"? And the scariest part is it will only get worse from here . . .
  14. No, not really. Facing Jackson and Burrow is not nearly the same as facing the Jones brothers (Mac and Daniel), even though both instances would be facing "starting QBs". And keeping track of Hill/Waddle is tougher against ANY QB than sticking with two mediocre WRs/starting QB (Chicago, Jax, etc) Is it a small sample size? Of course. But does that sample size include two of the top end QBs in the league? Neither of which chose to pick on the rookie? Yes, and therefore I'd say his short-term results hold more value than you're choosing to give them . . .
  15. Which one are you counting as a starter - Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow?
  16. Too bad they don't count, since the other teams were playing with backup QBs . . .
  17. I don't have any stat to back this up, but it does seem like most of ZW's long throws come up short (as opposed to sailing long). As you say, strange for someone with "special arm talent" . . .
  18. Zack is from a smaller college, and played against a lower level of competition. It was common knowledge he was going to need time to adjust to the NFL game Zack has had two injuries that have cost him 7 games and weeks of practice time (TL has played 22 games, ZW only 15) Zack has played behind an unstable OL. If/when they gel, shouldn't that make his life easier? Zack is on a team with a bunch of other young players who are also still learning the game. Their improvement should overlap with his, no? Dating back to last year, Zack is on a string of 6 games where there is CLEAR evidence of improvement in his play. You need less "blind faith" to believe in his future than in TL's Zack displays an elite physical ability that cannot be taught -- he was the #2 pick based on potential, not NFL-readiness If you think all those excuses are fraudulent, you may be right -- maybe the guy stinks and time will prove that out. Yet the same is true for TL and every other young QB out there. My point was not that you should make excuses for ZW -- it was just interesting how quick you are to make them for another team's QB instead of your own . . .
  19. I assume you have a list of acceptable excuses for ZW that's just as long?
  20. That can't possibly be what you see THIS year (so far), which by definition means he's taking tangible strides to getting better, no?
  21. According to half this fan base that's exactly what happened yesterday . . .
  22. Which he did a great job of yesterday, but many are saying is not enough . . .
  23. People keep saying how they have to see a 300+yd 2TD+ game from ZW before they "believe", but IMO it's much more important to see a dominant defensive game (which I'm not sure this regime is capable of . . .)
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