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  1. all you Mangini worshipers your boy will be on the MKS now. i wonder if Tanney will thank him for all the great players he drafted. LMAO.

    i still think Tanney drafted those guys, i wish they talk about the old days and maybe we could really know who was responsible for those draft picks

  2. great article.

    i doubt anyone thought Becton was going to play more than half a year so how could losing him effect our ceiling. as the article says you dont need an elite OL. just a good one. and the person who will most determine how good it is is Zach Wilson. 

    its no coincidence that the best QBs have a really good OL. its because they get rid of the ball quick. if Zach gets quicker then this line will be fine.

    and as far as the running game MC1 avg 4.3 ypc. Coleman 4.2 ypc last year. Elliot with Dallas avg 4.3 and there OL is supposed to be really good. we got 3 returning guys and Laken is better than the Doctor he is replacing. Brown will probably be the same as Moses. i am not worried about this OL

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  3. they have Tanny covering on the MKS this week and yesterday he said he would not sign him cause he hasnt participated in a offseason program yet this year. then he brought up Ryan Kalil as an example. also said there is a reason nobody has sign him and its Aug. 

    i hope hes wrong but its something to think about

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  4. 34 minutes ago, Hex said:

    In some cases the injuries in TC allow for the team to make the proper adjustments before the actual game starts instead of the player getting hurt 5 minutes into the first game when making adjustments are harder. To me it seems like Becton's injury was either going to happen during training camp or week one like it did last year.

    So I consider training camp to actually be useful in that it not only helps players practice but if there's any problems (Injuries included) they can be resolved before the actual season starts.

    As for Lawson, using his injury as an example of anything is like using Tom Brady as a reason to draft you QB in the later rounds. It's an outlier.

    you beat me to it.

    there are going to be some decent and even good players available in the coming weeks in TC cuts. its better to know we need a starting RT now instead of thinking Becton is fine cause he played all the preseason games. by the time week one starts all the better Tackles will be signed by other teams.

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  5. 1 hour ago, slats said:

    All along I’ve thought indefinite/at least a year for Watson. Be interesting to see if this is all setting the stage for Watson to accept the 12 games and $10M fine and let him and the union claim some small victory, though. 

    i think it stays at 6 games. at most they add maybe 2 games and a big fine.

    if the NFL really wanted a year or indefinite suspension Goodall or one of his lackeys ( ex. assistant Com, VP of whatever... ) would hear the appeal but instead, they get a ex AG. i think he agrees with Robinsons ruling and gives the 6 games for the same reason she did. remember he is not going to do his own investigation; he is going off of what Robinson said and she wanted to give him more but couldn't for the reasons she gave.

    then the NFL says they tried. they wanted the big punishment but 2 respected officers of the law both ruled for 6 games. and i believe the NFL doesn't want Watson suspended longer than that. i think they told teams that if he wasnt charged in criminal court that it was ok to trade and give up a bunch of 1st rd picks. that they wouldn't punished him big. its no coincidence that he doesn't get traded for over a year then as soon as he isnt charged he gets traded within a week or 2.


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  6. 15 hours ago, Untouchable said:

    If Brown isn’t a Jet by tomorrow then I’m going to be a hot little potato 

    yeah i was wondering why we haven't signed him yet since hes been here for a couple of days now. makes me think that maybe he has a medical issue and didnt pass 

  7. 14 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

    Are you kidding... @freestater is all about that... so is @Jet9 and numerous others... I think you are underestimating the number of people that want JD and Saleh out.

    now!! before the season starts. their crazy. he could have drafted the core of a winning team with those 4 1st rd picks. he at least has to get the end of this year to see how they work out.


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  8. 35 minutes ago, Big_Slick said:

    JD's top OL moves.
    - Becton over Wirfs.
    - Traded a 1st and two 3rd round picks to move up to pick #14OA for an IOL. Shows a lack of positional value.
    - Taking CB at #4 and passing on Ickey. LT has greater positional value and was a much greater need.

    with Diggs and the guy in Miami whos name escapes me atm we need a shut down corner more than LT. plus Fant is good enough this year and we probably sign Brown now. plus there will be good OL available in the next few weeks who get cut because of the salary cap. 

    LT is important but its not QB. you dont keep using top 12 picks every 2 years on LT until you get it right. i like AVT but i agree i hated using 14OA on a IOL.

    if we didnt have 2 top 5 WRs in our own division you might have an argument there. but without Sause there going to abuse us for 4 games a year. and remember last year without Becton we had the 14-15 best OL thats plenty good to win in this league.

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  9. this does suck. but i have no regrets about not drafting one early. i would not trade Sause, Wilson, JJ or Hall for any OL that was available at those slots because OL are a dime a dozen. you can always find a good replacement.

    and guess what we have one already here. what perfect timing that Brown is here. sign him up. 

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  10. 40 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

    She found that he deliberately and intentionally exposed himself to women he knew didn't want him to and deliberately and intentionally touched them with his penis knowing they didn't want him to. 

    That you don't think that's particularly bad just says that you're a piece of human garbage who shouldn't be allowed around women without supervision (or better yet, handcuffs). But thanks for at least saying it out loud. 

    hey FU. dont start with the namecalling. 

    how does she find it deliberately and intentionally when she also finds it happens alot of penises touch them.? of course they didnt want that to happend but it happens to them alot. 

    and if you read my post instead of just jumping to call me names you would have read that i said it was BAD for a mans penis to touch a women, until you find out it happens all the time. it seems like an occupational hazard for these women.

    this report contradicts itself.

    1.Importantly, much of the alleged conduct is not, in and of itself, challenged as wrongful. The use of Instagram to advertise a business or to engage a business, for instance, is commonplace.

    but then she says

    Mr. Watson reached out to women whose professional qualifications were unknown and unimportant to him.

    ok well thats probably going to happen when you go to Instagram to find your massage therapist.

    2. There is evidence in the record that Mr.Watson’s focus points (the lower back, glutes, abs, and groin area) are legitimate focus areas for professional athletes.2

    but then says...

    He insisted on having the therapists focus on areas of his body that not uncommonly triggered erections.

    so its legitimate to have the groin area as a focus area but its not ok to ask them to focus on a area (groin) that triggers erections? yeah that doesnt contradict itself at all.

    3. Moreover, it is not unusual for therapists to inadvertently contact a male client’s penis while treating these legitimate focus areas, nor for male clients to get an erection during a massage.

    but then....

    I find this sufficient circumstantial evidence to support the NFL’s contention not only that contact occurred, but that Mr.Watson was aware that contact probably would occur,

    i think this one is more that he lied and said it did not touch them. with the NFL trying to prove that he lied about his penis touching these women they actually helped his case by proving that many men penises touch these women. and as Robinson continues to state, this is a crime in the NFL, not in the real world. that is why he wasnt charged in criminal court with assault.

    even though it looks like im defending Watson i am not. i just expected to find some smoking gun to prove Watson was some evil person and all i found was a lot of contradicting and pretty thin circumstantial evidence. 

    i dont like the whole penis touching a women either, but 12 women got interviewed by the NFL and apparently, they told them that its not uncommon for that to happen with men. and they continued to do massages up until Watson. so apparently, they accepted it as part of the job... until Watson. in this context its not that bad. its not like your penis touching a co worker in the office (clothed) which is horrible as compared to a naked guy with a towel whos groin your massaging. 






  11. 3 hours ago, Doggin94it said:

    What you're missing is that Butterfield doesn't give a **** about sexual assault

    sexual assault as defined by the NFL, not what we know it to be. 

    she did not find evidence that he touch any women in a sexual way, or had sex or forced sex, no rape. he was found guilty of having his penis touch a body part which under the NFL is consider sexual assault. and then she states that this is a common in massages. 

    just thought i would point this out since neither the media or anyone on this board has done. since the report came out i have been hearing about sexual assault. i read the report last night expecting to find evidence of some horrific stuff but nope, its just penis touching the body. which is bad until you find out it happens all the time.

    the appeal will stay at 6 games with a big fine. 


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  12. the NFL store is garbage.

    i just bought Jets sweatpants. the Jets wording looks cheap like they put it on at the county fair with a iron. as soon as i open it the letters are all cracked. i should have returned it but its just going to be worned to knock around the house. i just expected better from a official store. i probably could have got the same quality off a guy on the street for 5 dollars.

  13. 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

    Not what I got from her quote


    and that is what is strange about her statements. she was suppose to check on the facts and seams to say she knows he did it. but yet they had the same facts in criminal court yet they didnt have enough evidence to charge him.

    its almost like she knows the public will be upset at her decision so she is saying i believe he did it, yet she doesn't have enough evidence to give him more games. yet they can charge someone with just circumstantial evidence. which makes you wonder if there is such evidence why didnt he get charged in court.

    her statement leaves more questions then answers. 

  14. yep 6 games is what i said. and its over. the NFL will not overrule this decision.

    the NFL and the union both agreed to have Sue Robinson an ex-Judge give the punishment in this case. this was her 1st case so all this talk about what player got what games before has no meaning. Goodell made those rulings. 

    and the NFL only gave her 4 or 5 cases. not all 26. someone said Watson should get a game for each woman... well he did. 

    if Goodell appeals this he would be appealing it to himself. bad optics. he would be undermining a women Judge that he agreed would make these decisions. more bad optics. it would make any case Robinson hears from now on look like a sham. like he gets to pick and choose the decision he likes. 



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  15. 6 hours ago, slats said:

    A lot of frustration goes into being a Jet fan. As Jet fans, we all get it. An eleven year playoff drought and coming off a failed highly touted rookie QB only to replace him with someone who -shall we say- hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire has all of us frustrated, and these are topics worthy of discussion. 
    However, if your primary -or exclusive- interaction on this site is; Zach sucks, Becton sucks, Saleh sucks, etc., and you feel the need to call out, criticize, or insult fans of the team who have simply chosen not to give up yet on some of these guys, you are going to get time off. Some of us are actually looking forward to seeing what happens with all the new additions in the second year with this staff, fully aware of the concerns surrounding that big three and others. We’re not gonna have a few repetitive trolls ruin the site with their spamming every thread with their deeply held negative opinions. 
    Again, we’re all for constructive criticism and there are plenty of ways to have those conversations. Just please keep it civil and keep the repetition to a minimum (odds are that we already know your opinion all too well). 
    This really should be a time for a little optimism. A lot of new talent here, the team is 0-0, let’s see what happens, shall we? 

    great post

    and this is why i havent been around since the draft. i figured this place would still be arguing the same old stuff from the end of the season. but after the draft its a new season. especially after the draft and FA period we had. there should be nothing but excitement. 

    i will see you guys in 2 weeks after the Eagles game when we really have something to talk about

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  16. 1 hour ago, slats said:

    The Browns didn’t know anything of the sort. No way they could know about the additional accusers coming out after a very public HBO episode about the matter, for instance. League could’ve intimidated that “as it stands,” a one year ban was the likely maximum penalty, but with the additional accusers and a few women refusing to settle so far, it has the potential to continue to get worse. The league doesn’t care what Watson did, they only care about how they look. Court of public opinion is gonna weigh heavily in this decision. 

    i disagree.

    they had to know some of these women would be interviewed so that should have not come as a surprise. and i believe that the NFL has told these teams that if Watson did not get charged in criminal court that they would not punish him too bad. i dont think it was a coincidence that after that trade talks heated up and he was traded a short time later. unfortunately for the Browns i dont think the NFL put that in writing but i still cant see a team giving up those draft picks unless they had some sort of insurances that Watson would play at least half a year. and  i dont think that the interviews or the settlement which both had to be suspected changed that by anything. 

    1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

    Exactly, it’s not the difference in 24 and 26 it’s the fact it may get worse that bothers the league. If all 26 settled, he’d get 6 appeal and miss 3. Situation is still stormy so the league won’t drop anchor @Klecko73isGod until it’s calm. 

    is it really 26? the last 2 women arent even filing anything. sorry but you dont get to say this man did something bad to you and then say you dont want to join the lawsuit. it would be quite easy to add 2 more names to the civil suit.

    and is it even 24? 

    think about this. out of 23 women the DA only brought 10 to the Grand Jury. and the Grand Jury only wanted to hear from one women.

    out of 24 women the NFL is only zeroing in on 5 cases. people with more knowledge of what happened then we do are telling us that most of these cases are nothing. i read an article about a cop who investigated Watson who wanted to charge him with prostitution because he paid some of these women for sex. 

    makes you wonder how many are like that. ..... what?? Watson ask you for sex? inappropriate behavior. we got woman #15...... what? Watson touched your shoulder?. inappropriate contact, woman #20...... Watsons penis touched you by accident when he turned over? thats not an accident thats assault!!! woman #24

    but when they get to the DA, the courts or even the NFL the go nowhere cause there is nothing there.

    but like Slats said its the court of public opinion. Buzzbee is a hell of a lawyer and deserves every dime he gets. cause if he just went with the 5 that had legitimate cases it wouldn't seem so bad. so when Watson gets 6-8 games there going off 5 cases not 24. 

  17. 2 hours ago, johnnysd said:

    Again it does not need to be proven. It just needs to be more likely than not. Not sure why people dont get this

    isnt that crazy though. OJ beat his criminal case yet a civil court found him guilty and all he has to do is paid them money. is that all that civil court is? to get paid.? cant send nobody to jail.


    4 hours ago, Mogglez said:

    im not surprised and expect to see more women join the lawsuit now that the criminal case is done. like Johnnys said above you dont need proof. maybe thats why they didnt join the criminal suit. but now the more women there are the more likely it would seem that Watson did it. its time to get paid. unless im wrong thats what civil court is all about at the end of the day. i know some women said they didnt want the money or whatever but nobody is going to turn down the money.

  18. 20 hours ago, Biggs said:

    So thinking about the NFL role in this fiasco.  It's pretty clear the Browns structured Watson's contract to avoid a harsh monetary fine for suspension.   I would suggest the Cleveland Browns owner should be suspended or forced to sell the team for trying to dilute the NFL's power to protect the league.   If you believe the league should act and take a serious line on Watson they should take as serious a line on an owner trying to minimize the leagues power to protect itself. 

    Any suspension of Watson should also include a suspension and fine of the Browns ownership.

    your joking right?

    how can you do anything to the Browns when the NFL allowed Watson to be in the league. if you remember nobody traded for Watson until after he was not charged in criminal court. and the NFL allowed it to happened. and the NFL approves every contract in the league so they cant punish them for a contract they said was fine.


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