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  1. 57 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:
    Urban Meyer mentions Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields and Zach Wilson as potential No. 1 picks. “This is monumental moment for this franchise.” He adds: "That's going to be one of the most important decisions I make in my lifetime....I see some elite QBs out there right now."
     


     

     

    building up drama to boost ratings for the draft and draw attention to a franchise no one really cares about

  2. 2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

     

    Not sure why you're waiting.  There is no #1 in FA they skipped.  That's not the argument put forth.

    The argument is that Davis is a not a #1 WR, cannot carry on Offense the way a #1 WR can, and that the Jets Offense needs a #1 WR if they are going to climb out of the basement they've been dwelling in for most of the past decade.

    That is the entirety of my argument.  If you disagree, great.  We'll see how it works out, Davis is a Jet, soon he'll be catching passes, and we'll see how many catches and yards and TD's he scores in 2021.  

     

    so what is the solution? we agree there was no #1 in FA (i'm skeptical of golladay, but some may consider him a #1 based on past performance).  guys like davante adams, julio jones, tyreke hill, de'andre hopkins don't hit free agency and aren't available by trade often (no idea why houston would trade nuk, but that's a completely different discussion).

    everyone agrees the jets needed to improve the WR corps.  davis makes the team better than they were on sunday.  i'm hopeful he is a player who finally is ready to break out, but more likely, he will not reach the true #1 status.    i think it was a solid addition, but as an avid fantasy football player, i'm not exactly rushing to add him to my team next year. 

    not a particularly big fan of juju (who i think will get overpaid based on name value).  he's not a #1 and really has been pretty bad since AB left (gets some TDs, but big ben throws the ball a ton and they have no running game - kind of the opposite of tenn).  wouldn't mind also adding samuel, but he's achieved less in his career than davis.

    so davis may not solve all the problems, but i think he can help.  it's easy to criticize.  but it's harder to come up with a realistic alternatives.  what exactly did you want the jets to do to address the lack of a #1 WR?

  3. 24 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    Actually the only reason Davis was "as effective" as Evans, less oh about 8 TD's lol, is because opposing teams were busy worrying about Henry and Brown and Smith most of the time, giving Davis more opportunity against lesser players in coverage.  

    But ok, you guys have clearly convinced yourself we're good at WR now.  So sure, lets see how it works out.  One of these seasons the hype/hope crowd has to be right about somebody, maybe this is your year.

     

    not sure why you are discussing mike evans.  last i checked, he wasn't a free agent.  now if i had my choice, yeah, i'd take mike evans over corey davis.  but it seems you are making a disingenuous argument that davis put up big numbers because defenses were busy dealing with henry, brown and smith, while ignoring that evans benefitted by playing on a team loaded with skilled players (godwin, gronk, fournette, jones, miller, brate, etc...)

    still waiting to find out which stud #1 WR the jets passed up on in free agency.  golladay and his balky hip is the only one who maybe fits that bill.

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  4. 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

    Mims is unproven needs to stay healthy all season. 

    Good on paper. 

    Need to add a  #1 WR 

     

    ok, except other than a banged up golladay, there aren't any #1s available.

    and we all know that if the jets sign golladay to a large contract, that hip will be a lingering issue, because....the jets

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  5. 16 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

    Lets go through them!

    Bills - Diggs (good team)
    Dolphins - No (Parker is close but nah/borderline playoff team)
    Patriots - Lol

    Ravens - No (good team)
    Browns - OBJ (didn't need him to win)
    Bengals - Higgins is nice but no (bad team)
    Steelers - DJ sorta becoming one but too many drops (good team)

    Titans - AJ Brown (good team)
    Jaguars - No (bad team)
    Colts - No (good team)
    Texans - Fuller? (bad team)

    Chiefs - Hill/Kelce (good team)
    Raiders - Waller count? (mediocre team)
    Chargers - Allen (mediocre team)
    Broncos - No (bad team)

    Cowboys - Cooper (depends on Prescott)
    Giants - No (bad team)
    Eagles - No (bad team)
    Washington - McLaurin (medicore team)

    Packers - Adams (good team)
    Bears - Robinson (mediocre team)
    Vikings - Thielen/Jefferson (bad team)
    Lions - Golladay (bad team)

    Falcons - Jones/Ridley (bad team)
    Panthers - Moore (bad team)
    Bucs - Trio (good team)
    Saints - Thomas (good team)

    Cardinals - Hopkins (mediocre team)
    Rams - Kupp/Woods (mediocre team)
    Niners - No (mediocre team)
    Seahawks - Metcalf/Lockett (good team)

    It's a mixed bag

     

    those are not all #1 WRs.  some may have name value, but guys like lockett, kupp, woods, dj moore, mclauren, cooper and keenan allen aren't #1 WRs. they are solid WRs and probably a step above a guy like davis.  but not someone the opposing team needs to focus a game plan on.

    truth is there really is only a handful of true stud #1 WRs - adams, hopkins, hill, diggs (at least last year), julio jones, metcalf (maybe), michael thomas (although sucked last year), allen robinson, aj brown, and maybe golladay (at least before last year).

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  6. 14 minutes ago, Bungaman said:

    For the folks complaining that we didn't even sniff around Linsley, consider that our new OC Lafleur was around him in GB, and saw him up close over time. Perhaps he had some input as to whether Linsley was a guy worth burning a lot of money on, and the conclusion reached was that he was not.

     

    wrong lafleur, but perhaps he has talked with his brother (the GB HC) and had some insight into the type of player he is, which impacted the valuation the jets set on him

  7. the only FA WR who could profile as a "#1 WR" was golladay, and he has some major injury concern.  you'd think he'd be one of the first guys scooped up and a talent-poor team like the lions wouldn't let him walk.  tells you there are some flags with him.

    let's play a game - name that receiver

    WR A - 5'11", 195 - 77 rec., 851 yards (11.1 Y/R), 3 TDs

    WR B - 6'3", 209 - 65 rec., 984 yards (15.1 Y/R), 5 TDs

    WR C - 6'1", 215 - 97 rec., 831 yards (8.6 Y/R), 9 TDs

    none of them really jump off the page as a stud #1 WR, but rather all are solid #2s.  yet the perception, at least for one of them, is that he is a #1 (who will want to be paid like one).  i don't see it

  8. 2 minutes ago, kmnj said:

    ok start with the post two down

     

    2 down from what?  and that would be 1 post, made AFTER you commented how jets fans were hyping this guy

     

    so, still waiting for 6 examples of hyping this guy, made BEFORE you said jets fans were hyping this guy.

     

    tell you what, let's make it 5...

  9. 14 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

    You have to look at Sewell. He's considered the best LT to come out in years.  Cincy would jump all over him at #2 as would Miami.  The trade would really be Becton for Cincy's #5 and a 3rd. You're looking at it like we are losing our #2. Becton was taken at #11. Sewell will go top 5.  What's the point value between 11 and 5? Its 900 or which equates to a mid 1st round pick.  In other words, to move up from 11 to 5 you'd have to surrender a mid 1st round pick.  Essentially you're switching a better prospect out for the other and I'm sure they'd be able to add a pick or two to the deal.  As for the QB's in this draft, there is no sure thing. And you'd still have the #5 to take one of Fields, Wilson, Lance. They all seem to be pretty much on the same plane, young, raw, unproven.  Of course Cincy would have to first trade for Becton first before the draft.

     

    the jets would take a $15MM cap hit to trade becton.  seems like a huge was of cap space when they have a pretty good LT prospect already in house and under contract and can use the #2 pick of their choice of QB, rather than whoever is left

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  10. 14 hours ago, jgb said:

    That splat sound is Darnold’s trade value crashing through the bedrock.

     

    not sure why people think darnold has much trade value.  

    for the same reason the jets aren't sure what to do with him, why would any team give up something of value for him based on results and his pending free agency and/or 5th year option cost.

    i don't think the value of darnold changes much (if at all) because stafford is on the market.  it's not like a team that is looking at stafford (most likely a team built to win now and wants a veteran QB) is going to be in the market for darnold.

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  11. 10 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

    We’ve seen this movie before. We hire the hot coordinator, over and over again.

    I hope this all works out don’t get me wrong but I ain’t holding my breath. 
     

     

     

    your options are generally hire a coordinator with no HC experience or a retread who more than likely got fired from him last job.  we've gone both routes in the past and it's not exactly like there was a "bill parcells" available (and of course we had to trade for parcells).

    saleh at least seems to be at the top of the "hot" candidate list this time.  not sure bowles had 7 teams looking to bring him in.  

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  12. 1 hour ago, SAR I said:

    No, it's not like that.  It's like someone with sleep apnea who is afraid of the media giving him the Gase treatment.

    Nothing qualifies Joe Douglas to make the coaching decision for the Jets.  He's had a fine NFL upbringing, but he needs 10 years as a GM to differentiate the right head coach from the wrong one.

    SAR I

     

    huh?

    so your position is that no GM can hire a head coach without 10 years experience.  or does this criteria only apply to GM's who fire adam gase???

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  13. 1 minute ago, SAR I said:

     

    Joe Douglas is a fine scout and someone who looks like he knows what he's doing behind the scenes.  But Douglas' press conferences the day after Gase was fired were very concerning.  No eye contact, looking down, looking uncomfortable, saying things that meant nothing, it wasn't pretty.

     

     

    i didn't see it but what you describe sounds like a belichick press conference

  14. 2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

    Indeed.

    my point is although I don’t think Meyer or any coach is choosing on one factor, but

    #1 w Lawrence is taking a substantial chunk of the pie

     

    i cannot say whether or not meyer would have gone to jax if they picked 2nd instead of 1st

    that said, i am very confident that meyer would not have been the jets coach if we had the 1st pick.  i don't think douglas had any interest in him, and i highly doubt meyer had any interest in coaching the jets, even with TL and the #1 pick

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  15. 47 minutes ago, HessStation said:

    I’m just giving what was consensus top 3

     

    ...and that it’s of no coincidence that the #1 pick is the one team that got one of them. 
     

    pretty simple. We can branch off on theories all day which is pretty irrelevant 

     

    it's also no coincidence the team located in florida who has no GM in place got meyer

  16. 30 minutes ago, HessStation said:

    There was a tier 1 of Harbaugh, Meyer and Cowher. Like many said the #1 pick would net one of these guys based on Lawrence. 
     

    glad we got that win tho

     

    perhaps you think "many said" that the #1 pick would have netted one of those coaches.

    but there is absolutely zero indication that this is reality.  harbaugh did not want to leave michigan, cowher has no interest in returning to coaching, and meyer was never going to come to NY (and that is a good thing)

    but i'm glad many jets fans have yet another thing to bitch and complain about, even if it's not actually rooted in reality

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  17. 11 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

    Do you not think the Jets would be a more attractive destination with the No. 1 overall pick in their possession? 

     

    there is no chance urban meyer would have taken the jets job.  you think he wants to have to deal with the NY media market, let alone coach where he can't golf year round, let alone go to a team that has a GM already established who will be calling the shots?

    if you know anything about urban crier, you know the jets were never a desired destination of his.  and to me, that's a good thing.  not sure why we are sure a guy who has never been part of the pro game and who has already "quit" twice citing "medical reasons" when the going got tough, is the guy we want to turn around the jets. 

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