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  1. TEs drafted in the top 10 since 2000 (I expanded it to 10 since a list of the top 5 is blank) 2019 - TJ Hockenson (8) 2014 - Eric Ebron (10) 2006 - Vernon Davis (6) 2004 - Kellen Winslow Jr (6) Now for those that consider Pitts more of a "receiver", here's the list of WRs taken in the top 6 since 2000. 2017 - Corey Davis (5) 2015 - Amari Cooper (4) 2014 - Sammy Watkins (4) 2012 - Justin Blackmon (4) 2011 - AJ Green (4), Julio Jones (6) 2007 - Calvin Johnson (2) 2005 - Braylon Edwards (3) 2004 - Larry Fitzgerald (3) 2003 - Charles Rodgers (2), Andre Johnson (3) 2000 - Peter Warrick (4) Even here it's not a tremendously impressive list considering we are talking 21 years of draft history. There are possibly 4 eventual hall of famers on the list, but I don't think any of them have actually won a super bowl, let alone had any meaningful and prolonged playoff success. I guess Watkins has a ring, but that's on his 3rd team as a role player, not a stud WR.
  2. lol at trying to equate the importance of a QB with that of a TE yeah, kelce is a tremendous player. remind me of how many playoff games he won before the chiefs added mahomes? (answer = 1 between 2013-2018). there is a reason teams don't draft TEs with premium picks. they aren't a premium position and more often than not, the best ones aren't even 1st round picks. now granted brady shows that you can find a great QB outside of the top part of the draft. but there is a reason teams place an emphasis of drafting QBs high. it is the most important position in the game. now i'm not sure if any of the guys available in the draft are franchise QBs. but taking a TE with the 2nd pick is sheer stupidity for a franchise with no definitive answer to the QB position. even if you could guarantee me that pitts has a career equal to kelce (probably hall of fame caliber), i still wouldn't use the #2 pick on him. of course, there are no such guarantees
  3. i'm not sure why it's hard to believe that a team could trade up before the draft to #3 to position themselves to take any of the top 3 QBs on their board. it's not like that has ever happened before or something...
  4. is this a real idea for a thread, or did the OP just want to set a record for the longest thread title and chose some ridiculous hypothetical to set this record?
  5. kelce (a 3rd round pick) had 6 catches for 43 yards in their SB win. of the list of offensive players to lead to KC to that title, he ranks 4 or 5th after mahomes, d. williams, t. hill and even watkins in that game. he also had the league MVP throwing him the ball. gronk (a 2nd round pick) is a great TE, but he happens to play with possibly the best QB to have ever played the game. in the 3 SB wins he's played in, he's never had more than 6 catches. again, a valuable player, but not really "THE" reason his team won any of those games. now should we go over the list of QBs who've made a great impact vs. TEs who've made a great impact or review the history of TEs drafted in the top 5? heck, i don't even like taking a WR that high. but a TE???? faghetaboutit....
  6. there's an equal chance of a player being a bust from almost every position. however, i can't think of the last time someone said "team x won the super bowl because their TE carried them." heck, i'm not sure how many times you can say that a TE carried a team to a regular season win, let alone a super bowl.
  7. my only thought is - matt barkley is still in the nfl???
  8. can you show me where i came anywhere close to calling him barry sanders like? the jets added a decent, low priced RB who has proven to be able to produce out of a committee. he knows the system and he is signed to a very cheap, 1-year deal. no one is saying he solves the RB position. but he helps make the team better. don't know why people can't just accept that instead of engaging in ridiculous straw man arguments
  9. well he averages over 4.2 yards per carry in his career (4.33 excluding last year) and between 2016-2019 averaged 917 yards from scrimmage and 8.75 TDs a year as a committee back. Perine's career long carry is 20 yards whereas coleman has multiple carries of 50+ yards. he has a playoff game where he went 22-105 with 2 TDs (1/1/20 vs. Minny), whereas perine's "best game" is 11-40 (1 TD)
  10. i understand clowney has had a better career. however, he is no longer the pass rushing threat he used to be (witness 3 sacks total over the last 2 years). for that matter, he is no longer the player he used to be. and he likely isn't signing a $1MM deal for 1-year to be a situational pass rusher.
  11. doubt clowney signs for just over $1MM on a 1-year deal to be a situational pass rusher. then again, over the last 2 years, clowney has 3 sacks; curry has 8
  12. last year was a mess for coleman with injuries. between 2016-2019, he played in 58 of 64 games and scored 35 TDs (8.75/year), while averaging over 900 yards from scrimmage a year as a committee back i don't know what he has left in the tank, but for $2MM on a 1-year deal in an offense he is already familiar with, that does not suck
  13. do the panthers have multiple 1st round picks to offer, or would it be one each in 2021-23 plus 2nd rounders?
  14. Leigh Fordham sold me out 46 days and the coal ran out Please come round here another day Sit yourself down when you're ready to stay She dug down when they took the town Lookin' for clues but they couldn't be found Leigh found out she was ready to roam 47 days and the coal came home Taste the fear For the devil's drawing near
  15. coleman is nothing special, but i'm gonna go with the guy who has been his coach over fans. the jets need more depth in the RB room. doesn't preclude them from drafting another back, but i'd like to add a veteran before the draft.
  16. the question is when is jordan reed NOT hurt? you sign him, you HOPE he plays 10 games
  17. i haven't read much by way of details, nor the entirety of this thread, but i'm always a bit dubious when we have all these civil suits and they haven't gone to the police. if what he did was so wrong, report it to the authorities. and sure, if it's just one woman, and a he said-she said with a high profile star, i understand the hesitancy. but if 10+ women are all alleging some type of "assault" then why the hell is the lawyer not bringing the police into the situation?
  18. apologies as i may have mixed you up with another poster who has been harping on how it was dumb for the jets to let go of leo now that he put up double digit sacks, etc... i think it would be premature to call lawson an "elite pass rusher", but i think he has shown the skills in this league to flourish in the right scheme and with the right coaches. i also think it is premature to think that a player can't improve after 3 or 4 years in the league, especially when their circumstances change (i.e. moving to a new team/system/coaching staff). lawson has a lot of potential. he's definitely being paid for this potential versus past production. i hope the jets can add more to the line (hyder from SF seems like he would be a good fit) to further enhance the pass rush. and of course, you need better play from the secondary. nothing wrong with questioning the pros. in this case, i think the jets made an excellent investment in lawson. time will tell of course.
  19. your guy leonard williams averaged 3.5 sacks/year over the first 5 years of his career (4.25 over the first 4 years if we leave out his 2019 season where he got 0.5 in a season split between the jets and giants). broke out for 11.5 in his 6th season. you seem to be a very knowledgeable poster, but i'm gonna go with JD, saleh and his staff on this one and think he can up his production, especially when lined up next to Q.
  20. do you really think juju would have had to settle on a 1-year, $8 million deal last off-season? really? what was the league salary cap last year? this year? are there larger or smaller contracts being handed out this year versus prior years? answer these questions and realize how wrong you are i award you negative points for being dumb
  21. of course, JD may have known juju wasn't coming here for $8 million or anywhere close to that (he turned down more from KC and balt), and he pivoted to cole, who reportedly was in demand by other teams
  22. in pittsburgh, he was the 3rd best WR. he may have chosen to stay there for reasons of his own, but with d. johnson and claypool (to say nothing of j washington), he isn't going to be "the guy"
  23. boy, that is a dumb take. you do realize there was this whole pandemic wreaking havoc on the country as a whole and the league played an entire year without fans, leading to a shrinking of the cap in the interim. comparing contract offers pre-covid and now is just plain stupid
  24. what does this even mean? he took less than offered by the chiefs and ravens. you think joe should have just overwhelmed him with a godfather offer?
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