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  1. I just took a look. Ourlads liked him and gave him a 5th round grade. But they warned that he does not "have the movement skills to appeal to zone blocking schemes." He is a bad fit. Guard only too, so no versatility. Pass.
  2. McGovern and Fant are likely goners. We can cut ties with McGovern for $1.3 million in dead money and we will. We can cut ties with Fant for $1 million in dead money and we will. I have not seen play that justifies their $10 million salaries. I expect Moses to leave for greener pastures as he is an unrestricted free agent. We still have Van Roten under contract for $3.5 million on the cap next year. Edoga's contract is also up. Next year we can count on Becton, AVT and Van Roten. On the bench there is McDermott, Clark and Feeney. We also have the UDFAs like Grant Hermanns under contract. I do not know about you, but I would like to upgrade the personnel. McDermott I like. We have to replace Clark as a prospect since we have no idea how he will heal. Becton and AVT ARE the future. It is a fair statement that the Jets need to bring in three starting prospects next year. None of them need be 1st or 2d round picks. Interior lineman seldom are. One in the 3d, another in the 4th and another in the 5th would give us possible answers. The guy in the fifth is likely a "guard only" player. One of them has to be a Center. We should sign free agents too. Even as starters. Perhaps even our own after a salary cut. But I want draft picks on the bench who have a future for this win tomorrow team. I do not want retreads on the bench when our 1s are not average starters.
  3. Cesar Ruiz would start for the Jets at Center or either Guard spot. He is a stud (and a 1st round pick I believe).
  4. I am not giving Joe Douglas cover (nor do I want to fire him - I prefer continuity). But I am pissed that our OL cupboard is bare. Do I give him a pass on expensive free agents? Yeah. Nobody builds a team that way and our expensive free agents have not moved the needle for the Jets. Who was our last decent free agent? LaRon Landry? Expensive free agents are for contenders and we are not contenders. And that is not speculation. You can fill one OL spot with jetsom and flotsom from around the league. The rest has to be draft picks and homegrown players from your pipeline. We had room for four young starters. We brought in one. It is just unacceptable.
  5. I just checked Spotrac and you are correct about Fant and Van Roten. We disagree about McGovern. We can move on for a dead charge of $1.3 and we will. EDIT: We can move on from Fant for $1 million and we will. Van Roten has a $3.5 cap charge next season so he will return. But my point is not really about who is signed and who is not. Nor is my point about the play of the Jets' O-line last week. I did not expect different results. I predicted 21-20 Jets out of optimism and was off by a touchdown. It is really a reaction to the Becton injury and the fact that he got hurt when the interior line collapsed - again. It exposed the fact that we will now devote a whole year of snaps at four spots to players who are not part of anyone's future. Who cares if they are under contract?!? When Clark went down, we lost our chance to begin giving snaps to young players who had a chance to develop into above average starters. You know, the way the rest of the league does it. The Jets are unlikely to improve until we start stocking the cupboard like a 2-14 team. I am not jumping off the cliff. I was never on the cliff. We are not contenders. I predict 5-12 and would have before the draft. We are undergoing way too much change for everything to fall perfectly. It is not about the results anymore. I wear the green and that's it. I am just pissed we have no draft picks on the bench. Wasting another year of NFL starting snaps on "retreads", "never weres" and "has beens" with a future comprised of UDFAs. It is such a low percentage play when you had room for four young starters and knew it going into the draft. I wish there was a flaw in my logic, but there isn't. There is no doubt that help is on the way in next year's draft. But what about this year's draft? A whole year of snaps at four spots into the fireplace.
  6. As I bellowed in another thread about our offensive line woes. I responded to a poster who pasted Joe D for not signing the notable veteran OL who were recently available. Next year's offensive line will feature Becton at LT, AVT at LG and McDermott and Feeney in reserve. That's it. Oh, the practice squad guys are ours. But they are UDFAs. Fant, Moses, Edoga and Van Roten can all leave because their contracts are up. As for the Center, McGovern - he has underperformed his contract and returns only after a pay cut and that is not likely. We are looking at three new starters next season and only McDermott is a valuable reserve. That we lack anyone in the pipeline is just criminal. As I wrote: I love this optimism. I truly do. And I believe a priority must be to build the offensive line. But Jack Conklin, Corey Lindsley and Trent Williams were never going to come to a bottom five NFL team. These are desirable starters with plenty of tread on the tire. Why on earth would they sign with the Jets when they will get comparable offers elsewhere? Especially for an offensive lineman. They know it is a five to six man dance, not one-on-one. When there are weak links getting pushed around, guys get rolled up just like our expensive young Mr. Becton. Had Trent Williams decided to sign with the Jets, the exact same thing would have happened to him. The left tackle cannot block the interior too. I note that the Panther Center - Matt Paradis - refused to sign with us and we ended up with McGovern who was the second best guy on the market. We paid up for him too. Paradis beat the snot out of us yesterday. Bad teams cannot sign the good players unless they back up the truck. After Trumaine Johnson, Bell and - yes - CJ Mosley we know a single player cannot turn things around. We need to draft and extend our own people. The only way out of our offensive line hell is the draft. What I saw yesterday convinced me that AVT may be part of the answer in the long run, but he is not going to be a force anytime soon. The draft capital we spent on him would have yielded three starters had we simply kept to the value board. We would not have had to throw them into the game either. We could have still started Lewis, McGovern and Van Roten. But at least there would be a $$&^ing backup plan. My problem is not with AVT - though I do question the wisdom of starting Becton and AVT after missing all or part of preseason. They were not ready and it showed.. Not that we had any choice whatsoever. Can you imagine if we threw in the backups? And there were answers in the draft THIS SEASON. Just kills me. Look at the Chiefs. They took their C Creed Humphrey in the 2d, their RT Louis Niang in the 3d and their RG Trey Smith in the 6th. They also signed Thuney (he was NEVER coming here fellas) and traded for Orlando Brown. A whole starting offensive line in one shopping spree. A good one too (for gap schemes). Could the Jets have gotten Brown and Thuney? Not if either of them had any say in it. Could we have drafted Humphrey, Niang and Smith? Yes. And it is exactly the sort of heavy - yet shrewd - investment we need if our line is ever going to gel. Now Niang and Smith are not fits for the zone scheme, but there were multiple guys available who were fits and who went in the 3d round. Wonderful Guard/Centers like Menerz and Green and the RT candidate Spencer Brown went in the third. The Bills did not even need Brown and put him into the wine celler for seasoning. These guys would have been bona-fide possible answers for the Jets if our 1s fail. We have no answers, just veterans who are worse than the starters. Another whole season where we are playing band aids like Van Roten and people who are VERY likely to depart in free agency next year in Fant and Moses. A whole year of snaps given to people who will not even be on the $^$&*%$ing team next season. It doesn't have to be this way. Our bench lacks any decent starting prospects. I love what I saw from Grant Hermanns in the preseason, but he is still an UDFA. Yet he is the best young OL prospect on the Jets this season after AVT. That is just unacceptable. We were not a good line. How can you rebuild the #^&$%$ing team if your bench lacks decent starting prospects? Of all the teams in the league the Jets were the one team that should not have moved up early in the draft. We just had too many needs. Those two third round picks and the late first would have yielded all the help we needed. Yes, I know we got back a late 4th (63 spots behind the late 3d we gave up). But the starting interior prospects were gone by then (we could have taken Drew Dalman in the 4th instead of MC1). We had the backs but we lacked interior OL prospects and Ray Charles could see it. Instead, we play Van Roten who is not part of the future. We also start both Moses and Fant and they are going to leave. Just criminal not to have some decent draft picks to insert as plan B.
  7. As I bellowed in another thread about our offensive line woes. I responded to a poster who pasted Joe D for not signing the notable veteran OL who were recently available. Next year's offensive line will feature Becton at LT, AVT at LG and McDermott and Feeney in reserve. That's it. Oh, the practice squad guys are ours. But they are UDFAs. Fant, Moses, Edoga and Van Roten can all leave because their contracts are up. As for the Center, McGovern - he has underperformed his contract and returns only after a pay cut and that is not likely. EDIT: We have Fant and Van Roten signed through next season. We can move on from Fant for $1 million and we will. We can move on from McGovern for $1.3 million and we will. Van Roten would be a $3.5 dead money charge so he will return. We are looking at three new starters next season and only McDermott is a valuable reserve. That we lack anyone in the pipeline is just criminal. As I wrote. I love this optimism. I truly do. And I believe a priority must be to build the offensive line. But Jack Conklin, Corey Lindsley and Trent Williams were never going to come to a bottom five NFL team. These are desirable starters with plenty of tread on the tire. Why on earth would they sign with the Jets when they will get comparable offers elsewhere? Especially for an offensive lineman. They know it is a five to six man dance, not one-on-one. When there are weak links getting pushed around, guys get rolled up just like our expensive young Mr. Becton. Had Trent Williams decided to sign with the Jets, the exact same thing would have happened to him. The left tackle cannot block the interior too. I note that the Panther Center - Matt Paradis - refused to sign with us and we ended up with McGovern who was the second best guy on the market. We paid up for him too. Paradis beat the snot out of us yesterday. Bad teams cannot sign the good players unless they back up the truck. After Trumaine Johnson, Bell and - yes - CJ Mosley we know a single player cannot turn things around. We need to draft and extend our own people. The only way out of our offensive line hell is the draft. What I saw yesterday convinced me that AVT may be part of the answer in the long run, but he is not going to be a force anytime soon. The draft capital we spent on him would have yielded three starters had we simply kept to the value board. We would not have had to throw them into the game either. We could have still started Lewis, McGovern and Van Roten. But at least there would be a $$&^ing backup plan. My problem is not with AVT - though I do question the wisdom of starting Becton and AVT after missing all or part of preseason. They were not ready and it showed.. Not that we had any choice whatsoever. Can you imagine if we threw in the backups? And there were answers in the draft THIS SEASON. Just kills me. Look at the Chiefs. They took their C Creed Humphrey in the 2d, their RT Louis Niang in the 3d and their RG Trey Smith in the 6th. They also signed Thuney (he was NEVER coming here fellas) and traded for Orlando Brown. A whole starting offensive line in one shopping spree. A good one too (for gap schemes). Could the Jets have gotten Brown and Thuney? Not if either of them had any say in it. Could we have drafted Humphrey, Niang and Smith? Yes. And it is exactly the sort of heavy - yet shrewd - investment we need if our line is ever going to gel. Now Niang and Smith are not fits for the zone scheme, but there were multiple guys available who were fits and who went in the 3d round. Wonderful Guard/Centers like Menerz and Green and the RT candidate Spencer Brown went in the third. The Bills did not even need Brown and put him into the wine celler for seasoning. These guys would have been bona-fide possible answers for the Jets if our 1s fail. We have no answers, just veterans who are worse than the starters. Another whole season where we are playing band aids like Van Roten and people who are VERY likely to depart in free agency next year in Fant and Moses. A whole year of snaps given to people who will not even be on the $^$&*%$ing team next season. It doesn't have to be this way. Our bench lacks any decent starting prospects. I love what I saw from Grant Hermanns in the preseason, but he is still an UDFA. Yet he is the best young OL prospect on the Jets this season after AVT. That is just unacceptable. We were not a good line. How can you rebuild the #^&$%$ing team if your bench lacks decent starting prospects? Of all the teams in the league the Jets were the one team that should not have moved up early in the draft. We just had too many needs. Those two third round picks and the late first would have yielded all the help we needed. Yes, I know we got back a late 4th (63 spots behind the late 3d we gave up). But the starting interior prospects were gone by then (we could have taken Drew Dalman in the 4th instead of MC1). We had the backs but we lacked interior OL prospects and Ray Charles could see it. Instead, we play Van Roten who is not part of the future. We also start both Moses and Fant and they are going to leave. Just criminal not to have some decent draft picks to insert as plan B.
  8. I hear you. Game in and game out - for the career - it is hard to argue and I will not try Compared to them TD is a mere shooting star. But to me, HOF players win the ring. Terrell Davis dominated the NFL as the best player but also won Super Bowls. Many speak about Elway, but anyone who watched those post season runs - the only thing that really matters fellas - know who stirred those drinks. Who won those rings. It was Davis. Davis was the only back I ever saw - besides Curtis Martin - who made a HOF career out of carrying guys on his back for that extra yard. In the end, Davis just kept moving the sticks and there was little the NFL could do about it until the knee. In 1997 and 1998, he willed Denver to back to back titles with arguably the greatest post-season performances by an offensive player in NFL history. TD played eight post-season games in his career. He carried the ball 204 times for 1,140 yards, 12 TDs and won them all. A whole season in eight games. In 1997 - 1,750 yards rushing, 12-4 and the ring. In 1998 - 2008 yards, 14-2, NFL MVP and the ring. I remember watching it. Those Broncos teams were not flawless. We know you do not give Tom the ball with one minute left down one score. Well, TD taught the NFL that if you got behind in the 2d half, Denver would run out the clock even though everybody in America knew Davis was getting the ball. It just didn't matter. You could read the play and he would still get the necessary yardage. Just like a trapped Curtis Martin eluding the free runner and making four yards out of absolutely nothing. The WRs on those teams? Flipper Anderson, Ed McCaffery and Rod Smith in 1997. In 1998 it was only Ed and Rod. These were not great teams, you could argue they weren't even very good. Elway never did anything before or after TD. The only notable offensive players were the Center Tom Nalen and the Tight End Shannon Sharpe. The only notable player on defense was the safety Steve Atwater. He was 5' 11" 210 lbs and not particularly fast. Like OJ, he was a one-man team. Unlike OJ, he reached a level in his play that went unchecked by the entire NFL for two whole years. He is in the Hall despite a six year career which is really just four. It was far more than the statistics. He controlled the game in the critical moments with people hanging all over him. It was exciting football to watch. Bill Parcells had rebuilt us from the depths of the ______ era and we met Denver for the AFC Championship after that 1998 season. 23-10, Denver. TD - 167 yards and a score to ice the game. The game was not as close as the score. Without the blocked punt, we lose 23-3. It all ended with the knee in the 4th game of his 5th year. I apologize for bringing it up, but the great TD went down for the count a trying to make a tackle on an interception. Against us.
  9. On the contrary. Barry Sanders would have produced just fine behind our OL. Never in his entire career did he have a decent offensive line or a passing attack. It was kill the guy with the ball and led to some of the most entertaining play since Ollie Matson showed how it was done back in the 1950s. Barry finally tired of it and retired long before he was done. Next to Terrell Davis, Sanders is the best I ever saw (honorable mention Bo Jackson).
  10. I do not know who was responsible for the blown coverage, but Sheldon Redwine - who was trailing the play - was not asked by the Jets coaches to play 30 yards off the ball in the middle of the field. Nobody was on Robby until Redwine saw him running at full speed straight at him. Then it was too late. A corner blew his assignment imo.
  11. A fine performance by Ammendola. I have only two thoughts. First, we should have instantly tried him at Defensive End, Guard, Center and Safety. Hey, the dude was on fire. How bad could it be? Second, you realize what this means? He is our PICKER (I refuse to call him our KUNTER).
  12. I want to know where you buy your weed. 5-12.
  13. And it all happened so fast. Sherwood and Joyner were gone before I even knew they were gone. I may have missed Joyner's entire Jet career. Given the visual picture of events, methinks that Becton and Mann are going to be out far longer than the "minimum." So what is the cosmic significance of these events? Besides the sheer intensity of once again watching our players crumble in game 1? I will tell you what it means. It means that Fant is the starting LT. Ole. It means that once Sherwood went down and Cashman crumbled - incredible, isn't it? - in came Delshawn Phillips to plug the dike. Dude had 12 tackles and is now the starting MIKE. No sh!t. It means that - huge Jet fan that I am - I haven't a clue who starts at free safety next week. If it is Maye, then I have no clue who starts at the strong safety. I have several candidates of course. Most of whom were signed off the discard pile as opposed to waiver claims from the cut pile. In other words, they are thrice sorted trash (once by their team, again for practice squads and finally by the Jets off the street). At least waiver claims are fresh trash. There is a poor success rate of finding starters in the triple trash. But there we are. Alas, life as a Jet fan. Last but not least, it means that Ammendola the great - who should have been promptly tried at edge rusher, center and guard - is now the Jets "Picker" (I decided not to name him our Kunter). At least he added some wonder and laughter to the spectacle. It truly was a great performance.
  14. I love this optimism. I truly do. And I believe a priority must be to build the offensive line. But Jack Conklin, Corey Lindsley and Trent Williams were never going to come to a bottom five NFL team. These are desirable starters with plenty of tread on the tire. Why on earth would they sign with the Jets when they will get comparable offers elsewhere? Especially for an offensive lineman. They know it is a five to six man dance, not one-on-one. When there are weak links getting pushed around, guys get rolled up just like our expensive young Mr. Becton. Had Trent Williams decided to sign with the Jets, the exact same thing would have happened to him. The left tackle cannot block the interior too. I note that the Panther Center - Matt Paradis - refused to sign with us and we ended up with McGovern who was the second best guy on the market. We paid up for him too. Paradis beat the snot out of us yesterday. Bad teams cannot sign the good players unless they back up the truck. After Trumaine Johnson, Bell and - yes - CJ Mosley we know a single player cannot turn things around. We need to draft and extend our own people. The only way out of our offensive line hell is the draft. What I saw yesterday convinced me that AVT may be part of the answer in the long run, but he is not going to be a force anytime soon. The draft capital we spent on him would have yielded three starters had we simply kept to the value board. We would not have had to throw them into the game either. We could have still started Lewis, McGovern and Van Roten. But at least there would be a $$&^ing backup plan. My problem is not with AVT - though I do question the wisdom of starting Becton and AVT after missing all or part of preseason. They were not ready and it showed.. Not that we had any choice whatsoever. Can you imagine if we threw in the backups? And there were answers in the draft THIS SEASON. Just kills me. Look at the Chiefs. They took their C Creed Humphrey in the 2d, their RT Louis Niang in the 3d and their RG Trey Smith in the 6th. They also signed Thuney (he was NEVER coming here fellas) and traded for Orlando Brown. A whole starting offensive line in one shopping spree. A good one too (for gap schemes). Could the Jets have gotten Brown and Thuney? Not if either of them had any say in it. Could we have drafted Humphrey, Niang and Smith? Yes. And it is exactly the sort of heavy - yet shrewd - investment we need if our line is ever going to gel. Now Niang and Smith are not fits for the zone scheme, but there were multiple guys available who were fits and who went in the 3d round. Wonderful Guard/Centers like Menerz and Green and the RT candidate Spencer Brown went in the third. The Bills did not even need Brown and put him into the wine celler for seasoning. These guys would have been bona-fide possible answers for the Jets if our 1s fail. We have no answers, just veterans who are worse than the starters. Another whole season where we are playing band aids like Van Roten and people who are VERY likely to depart in free agency next year in Fant and Moses. A whole year of snaps given to people who will not even be on the $^$&*%$ing team next season. It doesn't have to be this way. Our bench lacks any decent starting prospects. I love what I saw from Grant Hermanns in the preseason, but he is still an UDFA. Yet he is the best young OL prospect on the Jets this season after AVT. That is just unacceptable. We were not a good line. How can you rebuild the #^&$%$ing team if your bench lacks decent starting prospects? Of all the teams in the league the Jets were the one team that should not have moved up early in the draft. We just had too many needs. Those two third round picks and the late first would have yielded all the help we needed. Yes, I know we got back a late 4th (63 spots behind the late 3d we gave up). But the starting interior prospects were gone by then (we could have taken Drew Dalman in the 4th instead of MC1). We had the backs but we lacked interior OL prospects and Ray Charles could see it. Instead, we play Van Roten who is not part of the future. We also start both Moses and Fant and they are going to leave. Just criminal not to have some decent draft picks to insert as plan B.
  15. We are so due. The odds have been in our favor for years. How many short straws can one team draw? Here is to the Ultimate Utah QB and our Morman Missile. May Zack produce Zounds of first downs. and Tons of TDs!
  16. Me too on the above. I add that it really all comes down to Zack. The Jets went all in at QB and moved up to protect him. So far, so good. But Zack will need some help. The key matchup today is Brien Burns against Becton. Burns is a bona fide edge rusher. He is going to get in some licks. If he has a field day, it will determine the outcome. On the other hand, if Becton can stymie him we will run the ball down his $*%*&^*ing throat. If we can run the ball, we can control the clock and it will not come down to 3d and long. For the first time in a long time, I like our chances in the key matchup. Burns gives everybody trouble, but a healthy Becton did some fine work last season. A classic contest of speed versus power. I too think Carolina will score 20. Whether we score more comes down to Zack and whether we block Burns. I choose to be optimistic even though we are on the road. Jets 21 - Carolina 20.
  17. Dear Sir, may I congratulate you on a fine thread. As for the Giant's QB, I do not think it matters how many times he gets sacked today. The real question is "how many times will Danny Dimes fumble?" And: will it cost them the game? Again. heh.
  18. Here is his review from Ourlads back in 2019. He needed to get stronger but can backup at all three spots. After we cut Levin, we needed a fallback option at center and this is it. He is very experienced as a true four year starter at an elite school. Before you scoff at a mere 4th round grade, remember that starters inside frequently come from rounds 3-5. You never know what a guy can do once he is given snaps in the game. 2019 Guide: What Ourlads' NFL Scouting Services said about ROSS PIERSCHBACHER: Alabama, 6035 307 5.22. Four year starter from Cedar Falls, IA. Started 42 games at left guard for the Tide before moving over to center in the spring of 2018. A disciplined player who rarely draws a penalty to hurt his team. Good eyes and awareness to pick up inside twist stunts. Plays with hand strength and violence. Runs his feet on choke blocks. Works to anchor down a bull rush. Bends his knees and keeps his hands high in pass protection. Plays with good technique and body control. Versatile enough to play all three inside positions. Quick enough to snap and pull to the perimeter. The All SEC first-team lineman can adjust on the run. Demonstrates good depth and approach on pulls to kick out and log perimeter support. Experienced in both shotgun and a conventional snap. Needs to get stronger to anchor the inside push of 325-pound plus nose tackles. OSR:37/39. Fourth/fifth round. (A- 32 1/8, H-10, BP-20, 10-1.83).
  19. Definitely true. The scheme is a team defense concept. Nevertheless, the opening post had two facets. One was to guess which Jet corners would start outside and inside. Beyond Hall, it is a mystery. The other was to suggest that - of the chosen starters - which ones would do well guarding who. I agree we will not be in man-to-man much at all. But I think he is right about Guidry being the starter over the others. All true. We will play the matchup zone ala Seattle. However, certain types of players present problems for zone defenses and you have to mix in some man-to-man. Guys like Tyrek Hill drive zones nuts.. Many of the big wideouts must have a large corner on them or they will call for the ball and post them up. And so on. While Echols and Dunn have lots of zone experience in college, MC2 and Pinnock played a lot of man-to-man. I believe they were brought in to add that dimension to the Jets backfield. We are going to need some of it. I agree that we will "see different mixes" depending on opposing personnel. Much as the opening post suggested. It is my hope that going large is going to work against the run on the early downs. But we had a hard time setting the edge during preseason. That opens up the running game inside and out. We will use some man-to-man but the Seattle defense we will run is primarily a matchup zone. It is a philosophy of this defense to seldom blitz and instead drop everybody into coverage aside from the four down lineman. The flip is that the four lineman must get to the QB or . . . We will employ all kinds of zones, not just cover 3. But our defenders will end up in man to man after an opposing player has entered their deep zone.. So I see what you are saying. There is also the truth that you must NOT create a mismatch by ignoring personnel strengths and weaknesses. Certain wideouts have to have a strong guy on them. Other guys are so shifty that man-to-man is unwise. Wayne Cherbet was notoriously difficult to cover man-to-man. It depends upon who you are trying to cover, where you are on the field and what you are trying to take away. Like the other posters, I doubt that we will switch to a pure man scheme. But we will mix it in as needed. I think you are right about Guidry. And about some of the advantages that our starters enjoy as compared to theirs. Nice opening post.
  20. Yes Sir. Go Jets. I am ready for some football.
  21. I will give him the entire year to learn how to adapt our personnel to his schemes. There are so many young players. Coach Lombardi would have trouble with this many rookies. And Saleh is coming to implement the latest thing in NFL defensive coaching. It is not like Rex and "simulated pressure" which was always a bit of a gimmick (yes, I saw it work too). This pass defense is the NFL trend and has spread from Seattle where it began. I feel we are on the right track here. But this season awaits. I do not know about you @Larz, but I am fearful we are going to have problems stopping the run. So much depends on the secondary to come up and fill gaps. There are going to be full fledged growing pains. And more than a few WTF running plays. I just hope it is not the opening play of the season like last year. Please, no cold water until the second quarter at least. We are undefeated and in first place. Zack is MVP. Just look at his PACE!
  22. They can have any of our backs - except MC1 - for their 2d round pick and I will give them back a 5th. I would trade them MC1 too but it would have to be for the #2 straight up. Good trade for both teams. I would be aggressive too. On the phone now. They need the back and are contenders for the title. They know they have to cough. They aren't stupid like the Packers and Patriots who failed to comprehend that the window was closing but was STILL OPEN. It is why the Steelers paid up for Watt. Their window is still open and they know it. The Ravens have to know that they MUST act. Joe D has connections there. We have four serviceable backs and a bona fide #1in Tevin Coleman. If you think he is not a #1, take another look at his statistics fellas. Injury stopped him for one season Otherwise he has been solid. I think many Jet fans underestimate him. I know I did until I saw his career stats. Take a look. Josh Adams can make up for any loss for at least one season. The Jets have not had an open window in preseason since the sack exchange. Do not give me the Rex years, I loved them too but those were 9-7 teams. We should take every opportunity to acquire quality draft capital. We field the youngest team in the league. Just shy of half the team was not on the field for us last year. We share many characteristics with expansion teams or college all-star teams. Both good and bad. We have a lot of young talent but the bullets fly faster in the league. The plan is to throw the youngsters into the deep end of the pool. The plan will not survive its encounter with reality. It never does. We will need a fresh infusion of additional youngsters next season . . . Let's improve the quality of the choices whenever possible. I see opportunity here for both clubs.
  23. Great post. Logical with a thought towards this week's personnel. Bully. I too think Guidry is the most likely starter based on pre-season minutes - or lack therof. All we heard from the coaches was praise along with early indications that Guidry was having an excellent camp. Fellas let's not forget that Guidry STARTED the last two games of the season on the outside and it was not due to injury. It was due to excellent play. It is evidence that the Jets think he is more than just a nickel back. I noted last season that Guidry is a good tackler. A sine qua non for coach Saleh. As for MC2, I think he rotated equally with Echols and Dunn in pre-season snaps. I have not been able to discern a difference in playing time between them but they were clearly running ahead of Pinnock. One of the things I expect the Jets to do if they decide to start Guidry on the boundary is move him on third down. When the Jets go to the nickel, they should move Guidry and put the third corner - whether it is MC2, Echols, Dunn or Pinnock - on the outside. Nickel is a complicated position to play due to the lack of sideline. Boundary is more difficult because the bigger better players can be found there, not because of the complexities of the scheme. That is not true at nickel. Not only is poor tackling deadly inside, but the player must guard both sides. If we are playing matchup zone - and we will - then the possibilities become complex at nickel. You need the experienced player. That player is Guidry. That is what I think. Coach Saleh has truly kept the information from leaking out. Good for him. Good for the Jets too.
  24. No, no, no, no. Instead we wait until Pittsburgh blunders and lets him become an unrestricted free agent. Then we pounce and he goes on to have a HOF career playing more than 20 years . . . Hey Pittsburgh, you owe us.
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