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  1. There are colleges with older sets of corners.
  2. C'mon guys, let's look at things logically. The Jets brought in a bunch of corners. It sure looked to me that there was going to be an all-out-war for roster spots and starting jobs. So I cannot say I am surprised that the other shoe has dropped. But . . . I confess to being stunned at this turn of events. The knocks on Bless coming out of college were based on his injury history and his lack of core strength. Ourlads clearly pointed out that he needed to develop his body better to withstanding the rigors of the NFL. Well, he did that. This is what he looked like coming into last year's training camp: He hits like a freight train. He has been completely healthy and there is no doubt about his professionalism. Just look at that photo. I see so much potential. To cut him in favor of rookies whose professionalism is ALWAYS in doubt until they pull a "Bless Austin" strikes me as unwise. We should have at least seen how the kids held up in regular season games. But we knew there were likely consequences to the Jets front office decisions during the draft. When they loaded up on corners we all saw the writing on the wall. We knew the Jets would not be carrying eight corners. It was too unrealistic. I said it myself. So the NYC kid who went to Rutgers is the odd man out. Odd. I wish him luck. I would call for him to be added to the practice squad, but he is not going to clear waivers. Congratulations to Pinnock, Dunn, MC2 and Echols for their success and welcome to the green. I think it is clear - based on playing time and the tea leaves - that Echols is the new starting corner and the Jets' statements that he is ready to go were honest. Echols did have one hell of a camp.
  3. If you were an NFL head coach like Meyer. Don't you think you would know the answer to those questions BEFORE you wander up to a microphone and create national news? Believe it or not. It's in the CBA. There are lots of disease rules in CBAs. Take MERSA. A classic NFL disease with protocols. Remember, the current CBA was rewritten expressly for COVID. It's in there. A prudent executive would consult the team's lawyers about whether the CBA covers those issues (it surely does). Those lawyers would instantly ask him to say NOTHING about it as it is the topic of ongoing and continuous discussions between the league, teams and the union. Everybody is trying to stay on the same page - even the union - so the games can go on. Again. I agree with the policy. But the ignorance of Meyer is astounding. Every NFL team does a huge business. Let the professionals handle it. The league and the teams have people on staff who do nothing else. What a headache for the Jaguars. A reporter with sand is going to ask the "no win" question of Trevor Lawrence. It is a no win thing for the kid. The NY Post has probably already asked him.
  4. See below. Both of these are fair takes if it were a typical employee/employer relationship. But the NFL is a closed union shop whose rules are set by collective bargaining. and expressed in a collective bargaining agreement or CBA. That contract's details govern EVERYTHING. While I agree with both of you that a team can cut anyone it wants based on what they think is best for the team. A teamwide POLICY implemented by the coach likely runs afoul of the CBA which surely envisioned the issue. Remember, the league is functioning under an addition to the CBA drafted explicitly for COVID. It expanded practice squads and interfered with multi-million dollar contracts with its "opt out" clause. among many, many other provisions. Meyer announced a team policy for the Jaguars and said they had ALREADY done it. You cannot walk the cat backwards through the Crochet maze after that one fellas. There are league and union lawyers who will spend their entire careers learning and applying the provisions of the CBA to individual cases. The thing is like an old Manhattan phone book. Meyer went WAY out of his depth. I have no doubt the league has jumped down his throat. And again, I have no issue with the policy. Only the stupidity of a supervisor wandering into complex labor relations which are way beyond his scope of authority.
  5. Seriously. What on earth is Meyer thinking? Can you imagine Bill Parcells discussing his reasoning about final cutdown? If you even asked the question he wold glower at you and say - NEXT QUESTION. Then he would go LOOK YOU UP AFTER THE PRESS CONFERENCE. What a buffoon. There is literally nothing to gain. Do I agree with him on the merits? Yes. But that literally has nothing to do with it. This is public speaking. Does he think he is running for the Senate? His phone must be ringing off the hook from the league office, his team, politicians and everybody else who wants to make hay out of the situation. Imagine young Trevor Lawrence being asked about it while surrounded by teammates. Some of whom are vaccinated and some of whom are not. Whose side does the 22 year old take? Does he punt with "no comment" and fail to support the non-vaccinated Guard who will be trying to save his life from Khalil Mack on Sunday? Or does he wander into a fray that will make the front page no matter what he says. He is the first pick of the NFL draft, his opinion on the best varieties of determinate paste tomatoes will be printed nationwide. Meyer's JOB in this scenario is to threaten, cajole and manipulate the press coverage so he can develop his young QB. Not cast him into the pit.
  6. Can anyone say Ron Farout? The dude was not even listed in the Buchsbaum guide (a real achievement - greatest guides ever!). We cut the first round pick the following year. Nobody even took a sniff. Ah, the young pup Jet fans. I sometimes wonder if they realize where they are? It is wonderful to see their unrealistic views of the draft. How they measure draft success or failure. The hopelessly unrealistic dreams of trading our trash for elite NFL talent. Their endlessly optimistic views on how our unproven rookies will thrive on the NFL battlefield. Their lack of interest in the back end of the roster which is where playoff dreams are almost always found. There was a time when I believed in such things. That was before the Jets taught me the depth of my mistake. But I love all of them. Both players and fans. Even DWC. Even now, I remain a homer. My message to my fellow Jet fans: "moritūrī tē salūtant".
  7. I do not think that Ertz would be able to help the Vikings. He has been productive as a pass catcher but has been unable to block his position inline for years At this stage of his career, he is a H-back that is frequently injured. The Vikings needed an inline tight end who could be the every down starter. Chris Herndon frustrated Jet fans when his rookie campaign was followed by suspension, injury (after he came to camp out of shape) and a lost season. Last year, rendered an afterthought as the Jet made a commitment to Griffin - I thought it odd at the time - Herndon retook the starting job easily due to his strong interior blocking. That he dropped easy passes was the last straw for many Jet fans. But I have long heard Jet fans complain about his blocking and this lacks a basis in fact. Chris Herndon is a good blocker and would have had plenty of interest from the NFL after we let him walk which appeared to be the plan. As for his poor performance in the early part of last season, c'mon fellas. Do you remember our interior offensive line play early in the year? Sam had a second to get rid of it. Worst football I have ever seen from anybody. We looked worse than Tampa Bay's expansion team (which played good defense). That Joe D got a 4th round pick for him demonstrates what I wrote above. Herndon's actual performance on the field has value. I think fans underrate young blocking tight ends with an all around game and get confused by the flashy stats generated by an H-back who does not have to survive on the line of scrimmage. Herndon is not a "never was." Whether he is a "has been" or "needed a change of scenery" is the next chapter of his NFL career. I wish him well. Why? He never threw his girlfriend down the stairs. He never got arrested with an illegal (fill in the blank). He kept his head down and his mouth shut. Now, at the end of the day, he brought back in value what he had originally cost the Jets minus a 6th round pick. That's a bargain. I forgive him for the suspension. He was 22 years old.
  8. I believe that teams have until 4:00 to put in a waiver claim. Like the 4:00 cutdown time yesterday, it is a hard deadline for NFL teams. But the NFL drips the information out slowly. We can expect the same thing to happen today. While all team business will be done by 4:00, it will still be a few hours before we hear about it. Trades are a completely different story. All of us expect a big trade sometime today. AVT missed the entire preseason and Feeney under-performed. If AVT has a setback, then Feeney and GVR are the starters. That is not going to cut it folks. We need to acquire a veteran lineman and we are going to have to pay. It is the price of the McDermott injury.
  9. Grant Hermanns OT. I think we found something there. The scouting report said that he was a four star recruit out of high school whose college career was beset by injury. They described him as having good feet. That he gives up ground "grudgingly" but stays on the block and on his feet. He looked REALLY good in the preseason. Not only was his run blocking solid - against the Giants he got snaps against their #2s and looked just fine. But his pass blocking was solid and that is unusual for a young lineman. Hoge was unable to adapt and was cut even though he showed real promise as a run blocker. I think Hermanns has good enough feet to play RT. Next year we will let Fant walk. All of us know it. We will try to retain Moses but he may not want to stay. He is on a one-year prove it deal and owes us nothing. We may end up being forced to replace BOTH of them. Grant Hermanns needs a year in the program but is a candidate to start at RT. When I watched the preseason games, our pass protection issues came straight up the middle, just like last season. When those pass rushers tried Hermanns, he stoned them. Same in the Eagle game. When he reset his feet, he stopped them cold. I realize everybody would like to play a first round pick at RT. But the good teams find free stuff. There are undrafted players all over the league. I sure hope he clears waivers. EDIT: I would also like to put in my two cents on the Smiths. Vincent Smith had a fine camp and I would add him to the practice squad, but Jeff Smith would be a nice addition to the Jets. I like his size/speed combination and his long strides when he gets going. I honestly believe that Jeff Smith can help us and is a solid backup at the X and slot. His ability to run gadget plays on the line of scrimmage creates an added dimension for teams to worry about. Not unlike young Mr Moore. Only Jeff is a big tough guy. He is also the emergency QB and swiss army knife as he a notorious plus athlete. After all, he is a converted college QB. I do not expect him to make the team. We still have roster moves to make. If we had traded Crowder, he would have fit nicely into the rotation at WR.
  10. After the team has cut down to 53 players, it can begin to designate players. Recall IR is only available to players who have made the final 53. I believe that teams can make moves as soon as they reach 53 and submit the roster to the league. Here is a good site with all the rules. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-roster-cuts-2021-deadline-rules/t4agmpiuyveo11wc540pj2knw
  11. It's worse than you think. One of the others is Cashman. We will have to keep a linebacker or two on the practice squad in addition to claiming somebody on waivers. On a more serious note, Cashman has always shown talent. I would be delighted to see him put it together after all he has endured. Nevertheless, his injury history - just like the extensive injury history of Tyler Kroft - means we MUST have a competent backup on the team.
  12. I appreciate your putting these roster lists together and keeping them current. Thanks. Claim-a-rama follows cut-a-rama. Here we go, I think things will remain in flux until the third week of the season when our #2 waiver priority yields to the won-loss standings.
  13. Plus he could come home to his river.
  14. Well, all hell will soon break loose. Morgan? Surprised to see it along with Johnson. Cutting to two QBs in COVID land. I dunno. But I do believe that Johnson will be added to the practice squad as the emergency QB (who remains at home) in case of QB room contamination. Griffin AND Brown? I am not shocked but I must note that we are now down to Kroft and Wesco. And Wesco is not really a tight end. As for Brown, the old man will return on special teams for the kickoff on opening day. Count on it. I think it is obvious that we are also in the midst of trade discussions or have already put in claims on veterans. I could see us add two guys. I could also see us add Ben Mason from the Ravens and cut Wesco. I am stunned to see Neasman get cut. We are down to three safeties and Davis missed the entire preseason. It is not that I love Neasman but the Jets really do need three safeties in case somebody goes down. To my knowledge, Davis has not practiced. I guess we intend to test the versatility of our corners. Eight corners? Really? Hall, Austin, Echols, Guidry, MC2, Pinnock, Dunn and Hardee. Aside from the Morgan trade, I cut everybody here (along with a few more). I expect the Jets plan to do just that when they are awarded waiver claims. EDIT: In my haste to head off to dinner, I failed to mention the cut of Grant Hermanns. I would not have done that and disagree with the decision. If he is claimed, we will regret it.
  15. It also illustrates why #2 waiver priority is a very big deal. This will continue to go on until after the third week of the season. We will be awarded every single player on whom we place a claim that the Jaguars pass on. The third team has to wait until we have eaten, and so on. This is the richest time for waiver claims. Joe D will not be getting any sleep until the practice squad is filled. Our #2 waiver priority means getting to 53 is only the beginning of a tumultuous couple of weeks for the back end of the Jet roster. Teams are also trading now, perhaps we can pick up a big salary and a starter. Here's hoping. EDIT: Here is a good link on the rules. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-roster-cuts-2021-deadline-rules/t4agmpiuyveo11wc540pj2knw
  16. Here you go @Bungaman. The short answer is teams have 24 hours to make waiver claims. At 4:00 pm tomorrow, teams can start to sign players who have cleared waivers to fill out their 16 man practice squad. I was harsh in my final cuts and want the Jets to sift the final cut pile with enthusiasm. But I also want to see many of our cut players added to the practice squad. Especially Josh Johnson, Yeboah, Hamelcar Rashid, David Moore and the Smiths. Anyway, this is a good link I was reading to bone up on the rules. Chapter, line and verse. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-roster-cuts-2021-deadline-rules/t4agmpiuyveo11wc540pj2knw
  17. No. Corey Davis to H-back. It is a formation I would run if I were the Jets. Have you seen that guy block? He can do it and would be a matchup nightmare.
  18. Well blow me down. It would appear there is something in the works at tight end in Jet town. I sincerely doubt we intend to start Griffin or Wesco. With Yeboah gone and Herndon in Minnesota, that would leave Kroft as the starter. I expect that somebody new will soon arrive too.
  19. I am not a maven on this but I believe it is the season. We put him on IR. To put a guy on recall IR, you have to put them on the roster FIRST. If it is before final cuts, that is not possible. The only IR is the season. It is why Jared Davis and Conor McDermott will make the final roster before being put on recall IR. The injury to McDermott really hurt. He was the #1 reserve at Guard and played fairly well last season. He can backup at four spots.. Everything but Center. Is he all-pro? No. Is he better than Feeney. Yeah. A lot better.
  20. After your previous post I went looking for the pre-draft picture of Hernandez in full gang colors. I cannot find it. There is a weak one online, I decided not to post it. In the one I am referring to he is dressed head to toe. His tattoos also suggest membership prior to the NFL. It was known at the time that half the league had crossed him off their draft board due to the association.
  21. He also did not throw into coverage. White took what the defense gave him. White simply is more polished. In short, White is not green . . . Wait just a minute . . . .
  22. This is the guy we grabbed on waivers from Caroliina. I sure hope we put him on the practice squad. He put up some good tape. He has power and decent feet. Best of the backup guards this preseason imo. I fully realize we cannot keep a Guard only rookie as a reserve if he is not ready. I see real potential with this guy. Unlike Tristan Hoge, who also impressed with his power blocking, David Moore shows the lateral agility to reset his feet when pass blocking. Hoge really got exposed in his last preseason game. While I wish him well, he belongs in a man scheme. But Moore can play wide zone, he is just not ready. Needs a year in the program. Like Grant Hermanns. With development time, he might be a starter. Strong as a bull and he gets low.
  23. I would cut my backup QB if he was not vaccinated. The NFL is a business. A multi-billion dollar business. Let me get this straight. Does anyone seriously expect NFL teams to allow unvaccinated players to infect the QB room including the starting QB? It is economic suicide. Any business seeks the bottom line. They are going to protect profits. You might say that people will become angry and refuse to buy the product. This is a legitimate point. And it will be taken into account. The business - the NFL - will have a team of economists build an economic model to track how these customer patterns will play out in the real world. And then they will choose the path of greatest profit at the smallest risk. You can say my logic is flawed, but I do not see how. Peace.
  24. You cut them when you claim people. This will happen regularly and you need to be nimble. You have to know who is going before you put in a claim. The Jets have cut past the minimum number in prior years to make room for waiver wire cuts. It is not an uncommon practice. Remember, if you are awarded a player on waivers, that player must go on the roster and somebody must come off it. If you put in five claims, you will need to make room for those players. I am saying we will put in five claims. Guys will stay a week and the process will repeat. The bottom of the roster will be in flux until after the third week of the season.
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