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  1. The real issue with Cheerleading is the massive number of injuries to young girls and the money making scam that is "amateur" cheeleading competitions.  They get no protections because "Cheerleading isn't a sport, it's leading cheers for another sport".  Fascinating documentary on it probably 20 years ago now.  How all the different companies- Varsity was one I remember, are all actually just different signs on the same building- if you know what I mean.

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  2. I always thought it was cool the Jets never had cheerleaders.  Now it's a lousy way to treat the women this year and could have been handled better, but aside from these ladies ruthlessly pitting themselves against each other for a horrible gig that pays no money, getting perved on for 'development' never seemed like a positive step in any real career path to me anyway.

    edit- I see the reference for opening a dance studio or the like and I do get that, but the Knicks gig is better than this easily and it's not like there aren't other jobs in NY for ladies who look nice and can dance in front of a crowd in a costume, so they won't go hungry all the sudden.

  3. 51 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

    1.  I have no idea what your obsession with Connor Hughes is, but it’s very weird, even for a troll.

    2.  Connor also said that he and the offense put on a show the last two days of mandatory minicamp.  Then he followed it up by saying that, in the first two TC practices, Wilson and the offense looked better than they had all of spring/June.

    3.  Hughes did not play college football at Monmouth.  A very quick Google search would have told you that, but something tells me that you already knew this.

    I would have gone with, "Oh, hi Connor."

     

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  4. 3 hours ago, Mogglez said:

    All of us are!  At the end of the day, if the dude pans out, we have a monster of a franchise LT.  I just hope for his, and the teams, sake that we don’t have to go through the weight fluctuations every year.

    Don't forget that Game 1 last year was the first time the 5 starting olineman had actually played together in a game.  AVT sat out the preseason, as did Becton, Fant played some but on the right, Feeney played RG all pre-season.  So that Carolina game was the first time those guys were together, and it showed.  That has as much or more effect on the play as people thinking Becton is fat.  It took them weeks to figure out stunts.

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  5. I'm still waiting for someone to post an actual picture of Becton being super fat or getting burned by Lawson last year.  I *read* it here, many times, vociferously stated, yet never saw anything showing it at all.  Having a training camp tweet say "Lawson is beating Becton like a drum" without any context of what the oline was working on at that time vs. the go-go dline that was getting put in tells me nothing.  All I'm asking is for some proof of the claim to be presented before people start going to the mattresses about something.

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  6. 19 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    But yet Mahomes is making $45M per, under a $450M deal.  
    Not needing money when you were a kid really doesn’t mean you don’t need money as an adult.  
    They’re at the top of their profession and positions, they deserve to be paid what they’re worth.  

    I completely agree, the thing is that when you grow up with money as an unlimited resource that puts the World at your fingertips as opposed to coming up as a middle class kid.  It's not that the needs are different, if anything the kid coming from money would want more!  But in this case, he knows he is set so he can look on it as just life continuing as it always had instead of hitting the lottery for x amount of years and then having to make it last forever.

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  7. 8 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

    Literally no one said this.  The point of the post was Mahomes is cool with being passed as the highest paid QB.  While being under a 45M per/450M deal

    I totally get the sentiment of it all, but the most salient point was that Mahomes grew up the kid of an MLB pitcher who was doing pretty good, the Mets paid him 7.5 million in 2000.  He never needed the money.  Remember that video on Revis! - edit LOL Curtis Martin.  stopped caring...

     

     

    as an aside, the article I just randomly checked for Pat Mahomes baseball salary had this to say about his earnings:

    "When he played for the New York Mates in the 2000 season, his salary bounced up to 7,50,000. He almost made around $2,6,5800 out of his MLB career."

    Not sure who wrote that, but the 'New York Mates' sounds kinda kinky.

     

  8. On 7/22/2022 at 4:44 PM, Joejet said:

    I think it would be interesting to see why everyone became Jets fans; was it a family tradition, a certain event like the Super Bowl, was it a certain player, or maybe you just have masochistic tendencies?

    I will start with I became a Jets fan at 12 years old when they drafted Joe Namath. I have remained a loyal and long suffering fan since.

    Dad was a fan.  Where I live everyone is a Bills or Giants fan but for some reason we had a group of Jets fans all through high school.  One buddy's kids middle name is Jet.  I was born in 74 so my earliest sports memory is watching the AFC championship with my Dad while he yelled at "Richard Stink" as he threw those 3 interceptions against the 'fins.  Then I was in the NFL SuperPro Club at some point in the early 80's.  I still have the stickers with the old Jets green helmet because I picked the Jets as my favorite team.  Man, it all seems so much more innocent now.  I feel bad for the existence I have brought my kids into! 

    And Dad only picked the Jets because his father and my uncle (13 months older) liked the Yankees and Giants, so Jets and Mets for me! 

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  9. On 7/19/2022 at 1:26 PM, greenwichjetfan said:

    I'm not sure why this is ever a thing to worry about or celebrate. To me, once a player is drafted, it's a foregone conclusion that they'll sign. When was the last time a big name player didn't sign his rookie contract? Was it Crabtree? And before that?

    I recall a guy named Zach not signing his last year and coming to Camp a couple days late for his rookie season.  I wonder if it had any effect on that guys play last year?  I know people freaked about it here.

  10. 6 hours ago, Bungaman said:

    ^This. According to this criteria, Lombardi, Walsh, Landry, Knoll, Madden, et. al. should have been axed immediately after their first year.

    And Kelly is doing exactly what now to earn a living? His skill set has landed him where?

    Bill Belicheck really sucked in Cleveland and should have stayed as a DC forever

  11. 8 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

    Interesting.  A bunch of us are claiming the kids were "too small" for the NFL, but the guys they are picking up to take their place seem like the same damn thing.

      @Raideraholic has been touting Javin White.  That kid was 205 coming out and is listed at 211 now.  Some people are assuming that  Marcell Harris will be a good fit because he was with these guys in SF, well , I have seen him listed around 216 and the Jets roster lists him at LB and 208. 

    Both those guys played safety in college and both currently weigh about the same as Sherwood and Nasirildeen weighed coming out.  Look at the draft profiles for the guys they have at LB - most were college safety or hybrid with the words "downhill" "striker" "box" mentioned.  They seem to be looking at safeties that don't have loose enough hips to play high level DB, but have the speed to go sideline to sideline. 

    White was expected to test off the charts, but was derailed by covid.  His nfl.com draft profile said "Big runners will add yards after contact against him" and that was considering him for safety.  Quincy (225), Mosley (231) and Del'Shawn Phillips (who was with Ulbrich in Atlanta at (230).  The rest all weigh the same or less than Sherwood/Nasirildeen who are listed at 216.  I don't think they are looking for real LB.  We may have to admit that they are looking for hybrids that can run.  At least these guys are usually prime special team types.  Maybe they know they are stuck with Mosley and will look to fill that 230+ thumper spot when his contract comes off the books, but I doubt it.

    I don't necessarily think they are 'too small' forever, they can stay that size as long as they gain some seasoning, learning how to stay healthy for a year and succeed at that role.  At 22 or 21 years old they were not there yet. 

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  12. Those 2 S to LB picks were attempts at homeruns that fell through.  The plan last year was for Jarrad Davis to live up to his draft pick for once and he never did, then both of the kids were too small to actually play inside for real and their bodies broke pretty quickly.  Grabbing Quincy and plugging him in solved so many problems that it allowed them to redshirt the kids the bulk of the season and just roll with 2 old school LB's instead of the new hybrid style.  Now they're hoping these kids have bulked up so they can handle the inside better and build themselves a role.  If not, lost low picks.  If either hit, Boomsauce.  Interested to see what Camp looks like.

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  13. Yes the D sucked and yeah the tackles weren't for loss every time, but if he didn't make them who tf would have?  Half the games he was the only guy out there flying around making plays.  Was he Junior Seau at 24?  Nope, but was he Neville Hewitt or James Burgess either? Hell no! and that's what we've had for 4 years before this.  Sunk cost, quit bitching.

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