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  1. 10 minutes ago, Warfish said:

    I'll start:

    1. Our D-Line isn't remotely as talented as some fans like to think.  They are atrocious.

    2. Apart from Mosely, the LB Corp. is atrocious.

    3. Generally, the DB's, while young and growing, are mostly atrocious.

    It's just a weak, low-talent group all around.

    This was the price of drafting mostly Offense (which I 100% supported) the past few drafts and trying to backfill the D with FA's who, sadly, haven't panned out.  Our best Defensive FA got hurt before the season started, for example.  That makes a difference.

    Trouble is, all that investment in the Offense hasn't paid any dividends really either:  Wilson is the worst QB in the NFL so far, Davis isn't remotely a #1 so far, Mims is trending to bust, the O-line is average at it's very best, etc.

    Hence where we are.  Worst D in the NFL, close to worst O in the NFL.

    In theory, we'll improve with time and patience, as the young team grows and learns and new pieces are added and hurt players return.

    But it's far from a sure thing.  



    The Jets also have $40MM worth of players on IR. Mostly defense. 

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  2. Just now, rox said:

    -   The Jets enter this game allowing an NFL-high 31.4 points per game. They’ve allowed the most total yards to opposing offenses and are coming off of a game in which they yielded 260 rushing yards to the Colts — 211 of which came before first contact with a Jets defender, according to ESPN statistics.

    It was an alarming display and left you to wonder what the deal is with the defense considering that Saleh came here with a defensive background. You’d figure the defense would be ahead of the offense, which has been led by a rookie quarterback, Zach Wilson, and a backup, Mike White, who’d never played an NFL down entering the season.

    - -    https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/jets-defense-in-danger-of-being-in-company-they-want-no-part-of/

    Saleh and Ulbrich are brilliant defensive minds. They will clean this up. 

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  3. The names:

    Mark Sanchez 

    Geno Smith 

    Christian Hackenberg 

    Sam Darnold 

    Zach Wilson 

    Similarities: All these kids had talent, but were very raw.

    Sanchez didn’t have many college starts, Geno played in a gimmicky college offense, Hackenberg was a total reclamation project, Sam was one of the youngest QBs ever drafted, and Zach came from mid major program. 

    Fast risers: 

    Sanchez and Wilson were similar in this regard. Both weren’t really on anyone’s radar heading into the season, but had big seasons and were able to climb up draft boards as a result. They also both aced the pre-draft process and their agents did a great job hyping them up through the media. 


    Conversely at one point in time Geno Smith, Christian Hackenberg, and Sam Darnold were considered potential #1 overall picks. Hackenberg and Darnolds stock was at its pinnacle after their superb freshman season. Geno turned in a great first half of the season at WVU in 2012 and was mocked at the top of the draft as well. All three of these kids entered the NFL on a down-note and their stock took a big hit a result. Geno faded down the stretch that year, Hackenberg was terrible his last two seasons at PSU, and Darnold turned in a bad sophomore season and was exposed during his bowl game vs OSU. 


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  4. I feel like it’s the only situation ever where the journeyman backup is more popular amongst the fans than the 2nd overall pick. Is it Darnold recency bias? Is it the fact that ZW made a few bad throws early in his career? 

    I’m concerned if White is successful it might hurt Zachs feeling and in turn hurt his development. 

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  5. 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

    It's true, but they also had Bridgewater signed for 2 guaranteed years as well - including this season - and got out of that a year early by eating it. 

    I can see taking a shot on Darnold for a 2nd rounder, I guess. What I can't wrap my head around is then doubling down on him by guaranteeing him $19MM next year, before his first practice with the team, and more importantly to see him up close handling adversity in live action.

    Purely from a risk/reward standpoint - risking a guaranteed $19MM for a potential reward of $9MM savings on the franchise tag - that was a poor gamble. Never mind they could've worked on an extension at any time during the season if they liked what they saw. The whole thing with acquiring Darnold was it was a relatively low risk pick to try him out and see if they could find a FQB without expending a high pick this year: low risk, high reward. Then they threw that in the garbage.

    Now they've got a loser QB, whose upside is still purely imaginary at this point, and next year they're down a 2nd, a 4th, and $19MM for the privilege.

    I found that strange as well. I don’t think the Jets had any intention of picking up that option. 

  6. 5 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

    He never made the big jump from year 1 to year 2. He stayed the same player he was as a rookie. He still is today. 

    Yep except I think he’s a worse player now than he was as a rookie. That’s where the Jets deserve some blame. 

    As a rookie he showed some promise. Remember when he went toe to toe with Rodgers and Watson and held his own? 



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  7. 19 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

    Who cares if Josh Johnson signs with another team. I think the Jets can protect a certain amount of practice squad players anyway. 

    If you want Flacco here as a "mentor" or whatever for ZW, then you have to send Josh back to the practice squad unless you are going to carry 4 QBs.

    Johnson is a 35 year old journeyman QB. Who cares if he goes to another team at this point. He has no future here.

    Who cares if Joe Flacco signs with another team? He’s not part of the future either. At this point I’d say JJ is probably a better fit given he’s had all off-season to work in this offense. 

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Lith said:

    You can protect up to 4 guys each week.  I assume we would protect our 3rd QB, whether that is JJ or Flacco.  After the way JJ played last week, I think I keep him on the PS and release Flacco.  We already saw that Johnson can run this offense in an emergency.

    Flacco trade was a very curious move at the time.  Even moreso nonw with the benefit of hindsight after seeing both Johnson and White run the offense.  Only thing i can think of is they feared Wilson's injury was worse at the time and they feared Luke Falk-level play from White or Johnson.  Even so, there was not reason to rush into the move.  The made it on the day after the Wilson injury.  Trade deadline was still a week away.  I can't imagine they would have lost him if they had waited a week.  HIndsight is 20/20, but there was no reason to give up the pick and make the move so quickly.

    Tend to agree here. You can argue having Flacco on the roster could be good for Wilson, but now that they hired Beck that argument is a wash. 

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