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  1. Lamer than the whole Coors Light thing, and if he doesn't end up a Jet... unforgivable jinx.

    How are we getting that guy?  We'd have to move up and I doubt Idzik has the stones for that.  I hate moving up, but I'd do it for a franchise QB.  


    Moving back from 18 has nice possibilities too.  This would be a great draft to move back in if you make a decent deal.  Obviously easier said than done.

  2. Lots of talk of Anthony Barr slipping because of inconsistent film. Supposedly high character, hard worker, only been playing defense two years, was productive and is a freaky athlete. If he interviews well and falls to 18 he'd be well worth the dice roll I think. Khalil Mack would be awesome too.


    The sense that I get - and I'm far from capable of scouting corners effectively - is that the CB's in this draft for the most part are physically talented but unpolished as cover guys or solid cover guys with speed questions (Dennard). I'm not sure Idzik wants to take either in the first especially with a future #1 corner on the roster.


    Safety they'd be better off signing Byrd but could make sense. 

    I'd be shocked but thrilled if either Barr or Mack fell to us.  Doubt we get that lucky.

  3. Wide receiver is very deep.  If they have a WR they truly love at 18, then great, but you may not lose much by waiting, so taking the best player that you can use at 18 makes the most sense.  You will be able to get high quality receivers with all four of the picks they have in the first three rounds.


    They could easily go for a OL, pass rusher, S, CB, TE or QB at 18 if the right player is there.  Anything but a C or a DT if the player is good enough.

  4. -2.

    The Pats will be dead when you cut the Pats head off. They are Dracula and Jets fans have been planning their funeral for a decade and it hasn't happened yet. Kill the Pats.

    This is the thing. We're good. So are they and the Dolphins are potentially right there too.

    This division is NASTY.

    Sign Revis and take it to the next level.

  5. How much of that is guaranteed? :bwahaharoll:

    This guy is gonna blow on the Chiefs. Anybody who thinks KC won't deal with the Jets because of the Belichick-Pioli connection should look again at how Belichick ripped Pioli off and set his new franchise back a couple years before he even got started. Why should Pioli feel any loyalty after this?

    Ha. Totally agree. Matt Cassel was a a product of NE and a steal of a deal for BB.

  6. Imagine this story...

    "Jets Players Kick In To Save Fellow Employees"

    FLORHAM PARK - As is usually the case, when things get tough, you can count of the generosity of professional athletes. Having all they need, our stars are one of the few American subcultures that can spring into action when their fellow citizens are down and out.

    Jets' DE Shaun Ellis may have put it best when he said "these folks are our family. You don't allow your family to have their knees taken out. We're all rich beyond our wildest expectations. We should step up for those who take care of us on a regular basis. We athletes may not be able to help out the entire country, but we can certainly extend a hand to those in our own organization."

    At least someone gets it.

    With millions upon millions unemployed, athletes are in no better position to help than any other individual, but as Ellis eluded to, everybody, who has the means, can at least take care of their own. If all that can help - did help, we'd be a few steps further down this terrifying road to recovery.

    So, we may have partisan gridlock in Washington. We may have scum running our major U.S. corporations. We may more ponzi schemes than recovery schemes. At least we can still count on the generosity of professional athletes.

    When Ellis explained to his teammates, that if they each gave up .02% of their yearly income, they could stop their fellow employess from losing paychecks, the entire team chipped in. Looks like the folks in the marketing department will be able to send the kids to day camp this summer after all.

  7. I don't disagree.

    There's just nothing there that makes me think he's an upgrade over Pouha at this point. It is a need. I want the WR in the first round - every round after that I'd be looking hard at 3-4 DL types.

    Wow, Slats and I agree.

    I want an impact offensive talent with our first pick. The only reason that I'd avoid that is if there is a run and we'd have to reach.

    There is no way I would pass on Maclin or Moreno if they made it to us.

    I'd be interested to see what other people think in terms of what offensive players are worthy of our pick. It seems that as we roll on, the odds of Maclin being there are getting lower and lower. I hate trading up and we lack picks as it is.

    Assuming Maclin is gone, who are the targets we might draft, who are not reaches?

    The offense needs some help. We need another impact player. I know. Another? We have a lot of tough solid guys, but how many Jets command a double team? Jenkins is not an allowable answer!

    Think about it. Who was the last truly scary offensive threat in Jets' history? Wesley Walker!?

  8. Where did I say it made it right? I was pointing out the fact that taping signals is nothing new.

    Some fans are treating this like the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of professional sports.

    The need for or the potential need for an asterisk next to three Super Bowls is nothing to be taken lightly. It's sort of a big game.

    What I really love is how Patriot fans try and make it sound like the Pats gained no advantage by cheating. That's some funny stuff right there. The height of denial.

  9. Jets season ticket holders are paying a high price for an inferior product. You don't care as you sit at home watching the games on TV so why do you post in these threads?

    I feel I can comment as I have season tickets. They may not be for the Jets but they are season tickets.

    I asked BZ this question but he has yet to answer. Do you think the Jets will institute preferred parking (as many NFL teams do) when the new Stadium opens?

    They have for years.

  10. That is so true. I will never forget how embarrased I was for myself & all JET fans when the Steelers came out to a huge ovation & a sea of terrible towels. I was in complete shock.

    Dude, that was the single worst moment of my season ticket tenure. Those damn towels were everywhere. The Steelers had equal support at our building. Totally pathetic.

    At least we rained on their parade and won the game.

  11. I surrendered 4 season tickets and a parking pass for the 2008 season.Ridicule me call me what you will I dont care.I waited 9 years for tickets.I had them for 14 years.The preseason games cost $650 I dont use them.I cannot attend every home game selling them was not an option the takers were few.

    The bill on my counter was $3204.00. I have chosen to not be a part of the Woody Johnson get rich quick scheme.I love the NYJETS I bleed NYJETS green.I will have house parties and attend games and buy tickets on StubHub.com.ITS OVER.

    Go JETS!

    You'll get no grief from me, and next year, I'll probably be joining you.

  12. With Brick, Faneca, and Mangold entrenched on the left side, our running game could be dominant.

    We have major questions regarding QB and the #2 CB spot, but you can't help but be very excited about what this new look O-line and front seven are capable of.

    Dominant running game? Maybe, but I'd settle for good. We also need to protect a lot better and one of the worst offenders still starts at RG. He's not a terrible player, but he was lost in pass protection, especially against New England and teams that mixed up their blitzes.

    Not to totally dismiss what you're saying. Faneca is a great player at the position we sucked at more than any other. If the weak-link theory has any validity, we got a lot better right there. Can his presence have the added benefit of making the kids adjacent to him better? That's sort of the big question. If he improved three spots, then he'd be worth his contract and then some. We'll see.

    As for the front seven, I want to see the D-line perform first. Certainly we've imported some talent and Gholston is something we've desperately lacked. He and Harris, with a solid supporting cast makes for a dynamite LB corp.

    I want to see Ellis play better. I want to see us get closer to our money's worth from Kenyon Coleman. And, as much as I liked the move to add Jenkins, he's played most of his career in a 4-3. He's got an adjustment coming just like Gholston does.

    I agree that most of the players are steps in the right direction, but dominance is not like the next step in the progression when you're working from 4-12. You could rightly point out that a similar roster to the 2007 team went 10-6 in 2006 and you'd have a fair point. Still, dominance, in my opinion, seems a year or so away - if we're lucky.

  13. Alcoholism is something that unfortunately hits people, yet unlike other alcoholics they do not have anything like being an NFL player to support themselves on. I really hope that a team picks him up, like NO or Philly since he's got resepctable talent as a 2nd or 3rd receiver

    Agreed. He can help a team if his knees are up to the task. GB is pretty loaded with young talent at receiver, so it's not an indictment of KR.

  14. The coaching staff turned the page on Chad last year and it's now Kellen's job to lose. Statistically he did poorly last year, and looked rattled at times, but overall I though he did a lot more to win games than Pennington did with the same team. I though it was a respectable job from a young QB on a really bad offense.

    He's no lock, but it's his job to lose. That's my humble opinion. The only reason to go with Chad would be because it's "safer." He's a game manager with a low ceiling who shouldn't lose too many games on his own. But with the owner already committing to Tangini thru '09, there's little reason for Eric to go the safe route. He's much better off investigating the higher ceiling that Clemens offers.

    Well, they might have simply gone to the kid since they had some free games to use as an audition, but I agree with the thrust here, which is that Clemens is better if he's reaching his potential. The question is, will he start doing the things he failed to do last year?

    I really liked what I saw from him physically, but he absolutely must start stepping up in the pocket and throwing on time. That's the one glaring negative difference that I saw (when at the game) between the two quarterbacks.

    Clemens held the ball when it needed to get out. He also slid left and right when you want him stepping up. His escapability was a plus, but he used his wheels too often at the wrong time.

    Most of this, can improve with time. We've seen quarterback that he slept for years and then the light comes on. Hopefully Clemens can get there with a little more playing time. I also think some of his accuracy issues are related to his not stepping up.

    Pennington is a solid fall back option and with a better O line, he could be a winner here in 2008. If I was betting big bucks on the opening day starter, I'd bet Clemens right now, but it's close.

  15. This may help explain how Double B went from a horrendous HC with the Browns to the "greatest ever" with the Pats. Maybe I'm overreacting but he certainly wasn't being called a genious when he was leading the Browns. Then again, I can't remember anyone having success with the Browns. Still it doesn't surprise me that this crayon resignation letter writing piece of sh%$ would do whatever he can to win regardless of the moral implications. He's a weasel!

    I agree with the end the most.

    He was a genius when he was running defenses back in the 80's, but the way the Pats defense always looked like they knew what was coming is no longer some amazing thing.

    Fry the weasel.

  16. Let's see...

    25 guys overweight in December-no fines.

    John Lott leaves in disgust.

    Ty Law looks like the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man.

    And Law and Kendall take days off midweek in season with the coach's blessing.

    And again-Pennington probably was never healthy again after he was hurt in Buffalo in 2004. And he went back out there for Edwards. Edwards apparently wasn't done ruining people after throwing Q under the bus for the Ravens game which they lost due to his total incompetence.

    Read between the lines of Pennington's comments about playing healthy or hurt-somebody asked him to play when he knew he shouldn't have. That's not a player's decision, that's a coach's decision. That person was Herman Edwards. And he did it not once, but twice. And both times he knew damn well he was risking this man's career and he didn't hesitate for a second. Screw Pennington's health and livelihood. Edwards took that son of a coach/gamer attitude and turned it against Pennington's long-term health for Edwards' short-term goals. "Master Motivator" indeed.

    "When Healthy" indeed. Edwards in 2004 and 2005 ruined 2 promising young NFL QBs by his stupidity. How this man looks in the mirror every morning is a miracle of arrogance. How the NFLPA isn't suing him now for both Penngington and Carter is the only bigger disgrace.

    Edwards is a POS.

    Lots of assumptions from a person with a clear agenda.

    Law took advantage? Do you have any clue what he played with? He came back early at age 32 and milked that foot through an entire season and picked off what? 11 balls?

    Plantar Fasciitis is a brutal injury that can take years to fully heal. It's why Law was a risk. It's why he was not forced to overwork himself.

    I would bet that Kendall had a turf toe or something that required rest. I seem to recall a toe injury.

    I play shoulder intensive sports with a bad cuff and have for close to 20 years. You'd be surprised how much one can do. I lost certain arm angles or the strength at certain arm angles, but I'm still solid at about 75% of the things I used to do and with most of my velocity. I never got fixed. Getting fixed gets you that full range of motion and then you need to work and stay healthy to get back the strength.

    You have no proof at all that Edwards caused any increased damage to Penny. None. Besides, the player played. His agent let him play. The doctors let him play. And yes, the coach let him play. There's no reason to believe that ANY OF THEM made a mistake or better said - lost on that calculated risk. Of course stepping on the field in an NFL game is a calculated risk.

    John Lott? Whatever.

    When healthy, Edwards teams played well. You want to blame Herm for the injuries? Fine. But Pennington's injuries were not from any lack of practicing or conditioning. That guy works. Those were freak injuries (hand & Shoulder). Even the two shots that got him this year were nasty shots that could have injured the healthiest of shoulders. And it's Penny's injuries that really demolished our chances.

    As for Chad ripping Herm, I doubt it. Chad is saying, and rightfully so, that he laid it on the line for the Jets. He understands the situation, but he also deserves some respect. I think he plans on helping to some extent, but not this minimum salary stuff. Perhaps they could force that on him. Time will tell.

    Personally, I like the idea of meeting Chad halfway and drafting a young QB and hoping that he can beat out Chad at some point. If Chad holds onto the job, then that’s good too. As long as we are getting good QB play.

    Back to injuries...

    Apart from Chad, it’s ABE’s injuries that have really hurts Edward’s teams. Do you want to blame ABE's injuries on Herm? Don't forget that under taskmaster Al Groan, ABE missed the last six (or thereabouts) games with a muscle pull.

    Edwards has his faults, but your over the top criticisms are way lamer than Herm ever could be.

  17. And Tannenbaum and Mangini are going to attempt to bring back the Parcells-Belichick way to Hempstead. It slipped away the last few years, and accountability went by the wayside, as did the strength program.

    What a bunch of crap.

    I like Mangini, but we don't know anything. We hope it.

    Strength program last couple of years? Bull. The Jets were in GREAT shape last year at the end. That team played three straight OT games on the road versus very tough teams with an injured QB and no Abraham. They showed up in Pitt and gave a 15-1 team a great run.

    My ass they were not in shape.

    People don't like Herm? Fine. But this whack the guy now that he's gone stuff, to pump up what Mangini has not yet done, is cheesy at best.

    Like I said, I like Mangini and wish him the best. I like the move and will be patient. But so far the only thing I have actually seen is a guy who had cotton mouth in his only impression as a leader of a team.

    I will write it off as opening night jitters, but I will also wait for him to prove what he's got.

    Herm had a great work ethic. It's well documented. He used a different approach than Tuna or BB. He let the men be men. Yes, certain guys take advantage. Others appreciate the respect and sell out for the man.

    If you go the other way. Yes, you will scare some into working, but others will cheat the system and suck weight to avoid fines and thus play weaker. The knife cuts both ways. This is why Leberfeld's point of winning is what counts holds true. Approaches mean sh!t. Winning is everything.

    And BTW, when Edwards had a healthy QB, he made the playoffs - every time. Not the fraud some want to portray him as.

    I am fine with him going. Five years is a lifetime in NY. I'll take the 4th rounder and the coach.

    The whole accountability thing is just hogwash.

  18. This figure is not correct and is filled with all sorts of roster bonuses and other bonuses that can be spread out over years if the team elects to keep the player around. The bigger concern is the CBA which would hurt a lot of teams and not just the Jets.

    Mr Sherry is correct. The Jets cap situatiom is misrepped.

    We have constraints but not the problems being portrayed.

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