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  1. Meddle, Fair enough.

    But trust me, Law's cap hit to the Pats would have been $12 mil this year.

    Right. That's my point.

    We agree on the facts. No problem there.

    My point was that the Pats did lose Law.

    They got unlucky. The injury made it impossible to keep him at that number and they probably don't keep him anyway. Thing is, the injury made it impossible for them to compromise. Without the injury, the Pats could have and likely would have found common ground with Law. But, at this point, after the injury, Law

  2. Meddle, you are much smarter than that.

    Law's cap hit under his contract with the Pats would have been $12 mil this year.

    They offered him 4-years and $24 mil and he said he was insulted (after the Pats made him the highest paid CB in the NFL for the last 5 years) so BB released his a**.

    Would I like Law back on the Pats? Absolutely.

    Will it cripple the Pats? No way

    Are the Jets better for signing him? Absolutely.

    No, my point is that Law left over money. I understand that the Pats could have paid what we paid, but it was a money issue because of the original contract.

    I'm not saying that the Pats have mismanaged their cap. I could not accurately assess their cap situation. It's hard enough tracking one team.

  3. How did the Pats "lose" Law?

    They didn't need him and released his a**.

    It's not like they lost him through a hard-fought FA negotiation.

    Yeah right.

    The Jets are no lock just because they have Law, but he's a loss and the Pats lost him because of the salary he commands.

    We'll see if you don't need him. You may be right. It's also possible that this is the year where you really need a guy like Ty. A guy who can lead - AND play.

    We'll see. If nothing else, it's a great season long story line.

  4. This is bad. The question is how bad is it? Depends on how long he's been playing with it and just how much cartilage is missing.

    There are some options. Even if it's degenerative, there is micro fracture surgery, which, though extreme, has worked for a lot of guys.

    He's pretty young for bone on bone. It's pretty strange.

  5. It is not like he is playing for free.

    His incentives fall into two categories: Likely to be earned (LTBE) and Not Likely to be earned. (NLTBE)

    Seeing Mickens was cut, some of his incentives are most likely LTBE. You have to make room for these types of incentives. This is good for the Jets.

    Now, if they are mostly NLTBE, if he achieves one or more of these, any unused cap space on the year earned can be applied, or it can be charged against the next year's cap.

    If he can earn at most 28.5 million in the first three years and at most he is counting only 3.5 so far, the Jets are going to have to pinch hard to accomodate the last 25 at sometime assuming he plays upto his former level.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the Jets, depending on their current cap situation, could be in a bind if Ty performs back at a Pro Bowl level and/or helps the Jets earn team incentives.

    It appears on the surface to be a good deal for the Jets, but I am curious what the fine print says. These are the Potsons after all and Ty wants to be paid first and foremost. I am wondering if in the long run this turns out to be a Curtis albatross around the Jets necks.

    In the battle of fine print, I will bet on Tannenbaum versus the Postons. Call me crazy - or - just call Lavar Arrington.

  6. The Pats O is better than the Jets O. Simple as that. How many points did the vaunted Jets O put up in the Playoffs last year?

    Since then...

    Lava for Moss

    Dinger for Hackett

    Jolley for Becht

    Blaylock for Jordan

    Jones for McKenzie

    Pennington post surgery (probably a plus)

    Nugent for Brien

    Feel free to argue the effects of these changes, but one thing is for certain. This is not the offense that played in Pitt.

    Pennington said that his arm was so gone, that he'd have missed the next week in NE.

    Now, you may have a QB with less than full arm strength, but at least he can now use the correct arm angle on all his throws and make those throws without pain. Chad's accuracy will return to the pre-injury level. The arm strength will likely take more time. IMO, he should be a more effective player.

    Coles over Moss is huge. Moss has an edge with his return skills, but Justin Miller covers us there.

    I expect Cotchery to develop and McCareins to be more at home in Dinger

  7. Exactly... well said =D>

    Herm has about as much to do with this signing as any of us do. His defense? nope... it's Donnie's. Contract? Nope. That's from Bradway and the rest of the front office.

    But that BBQ, post camp? That's all Herm, baby!

    That's pretty weak.

    I think I'll go by what Law said.

    Clearly the money was, and always is, anyone's primary concern.

    Curtis was a factor. Staying in the division and getting two cracks at NE was a factor. Herm, according to Law, was a factor.

    I don't buy that we were the only folks willing to pay. Nor for one second.

  8. 5) The offense works. The difference between Hackett's miserable O and Dinger's O is night and day. No question. For one thing, the running backs on pass plays are not running flares five yeards behind the line of scrimmage--they are 5-10 yards downfield in the hook zones, and the receivers have deeper routes this year as well. The good news about this is that even the fourth option will give us 6-7 yards on a completion (as opposed to 2 in the Hackett O). The bad news is that the QB's have to make their reads ALOT quicker than they did last season, otherwise they'll get picked clean. At times Fiedler actually looked sharper in terms of making his reads than Penny did because of the bad habits Penny learned under Hackett. Watching the O, Chad might get 25 TD's (if healthy), but we'll also see some ugly interceptions because his dump-offs are not there.

    Nice write-up. You negative mofo.

    Could the fact that Dumbo read the D quicker have something to do with him getting all the snaps in the new offense all off-season long?

    I heard Jones held up pretty well and has looked good in practice. I hope you missed the good stuff. We need that guy badly. Ethan Brooks is no answer.

  9. Marino is as good as anyone in history. A first ballot no brainer selection if ever there was one.

    My hatred of him as a player is the ultimate form of an opposing fan's respect.

    He and Larry Bird wrecked my sports life in the 80's. Hated 'em both for their greatness.

    Ken O'Brien or Dan Marino? U-g-h Ugh Ugh Ugh.

  10. Well then, I guess NFLPA lied to me. Either that or they didn't count the signing bonus. Either way, it's a far cry from $6 mil a year.

    34 is what Law will be in year three of the deal. Year three.

    Small difference.

    Also, let's be fair. NE has a championship resume and we are a team looking for its first title in years. Easier for you guys to get players to sign at a discount. It's sort of apples to oranges in that vein.

  11. Smizz,

    Go take care of your woody, you don't want to have BB in the morning.

    The Jets severly overpay for a 31-year old CB coming off a major injury, and you are happy about that?

    Whatever. :P:P:P

    So you've seen the structure of the deal already?

    What was Woodson worth at age 31? Darrell Green?

    Ty Law is not just some guy. You ought to know that - and I think you do.

    This may or not be a great move. I happen to love it,but hey, I have been wrong before - on occasion. :D

    This move fits. Assuming it gets done of course.

  12. The fact that he took 2 years to finally fire an incomptetent coordinator would be reason enough for one to make a case that Herm should be out of a job as well.

    It took four years to fire Hackett and you might want to consider that Herm was not really the guy who hired Hackett. Bradway is a factor here as well.

    TX's rips on Pennington are so tired. Nothing else worth saying there.

  13. What is significant about this article is that it provides all Chad-apologists with a built-in excuse for this year. Such a development is crucial, absolutely crucial. The old stand-by excuse of Hackett is gone, as are Becht and Curtis Conway. Chad's boo-boos are always a good fail-safe. Also, one can further claim that it "takes time" to learn a "whole new system" and so that, in addition to Chad's rehab, will give Jets fans the courage to post like this, after a horrible game by Chadflakes:

    "What do you expect, Pats6ever, Chad's arm was friggin falling off and he was barely introduced to Heimerdinger before this game. Just you wait until Chad is healthy and learns this system...he'll tear it up!"

    Meanwhile, Chad is what, 11 months from his 30th birthday?! C'MON, he's only like 4 years younger than Bledsoe, who was "washed up" 3 years ago. You guys don't get it - this is as good as it gets with Chad. He's nothing special...he's just a guy. As least Fiedler is mobile and has a halfway decent arm. Fiedler has proven that he can win with a good D and good RB. So, what's the difference between the two QBs? Nothing.

    Jay Fielder has a career QB rating of 76.9. He's thrown 68 TDs to 66 INTs.

    Chad has a career rating of 93.7. He's got 53 TDs to 27 INTs.

    They both win more than they lose. Fiedler's success has more to do with the Miami D than anything else. Chad has been a winner with the Jets for crying out loud. Look at our history.

    You are missing the boat. We have a championship caliber QB in his prime. He'll be good for another 5-6 ears if he stays relatively healthy.

    He's not a perfect quarterback. Chad's skill-set does not compute for you. I get it. You are missing what the guy does with his eyes. He consistently he diagnoses the play and he does it quickly. Yeah, I know, you

  14. So where are all the "PennyBoy's arm will be stronger than ever after his surgery" people now?

    If he is dramatically under-throwing 40 yard passes six weeks before the opener, the Jets are in HUGE trouble.

    Jets should bench PennyBoy for the first half of the season and go with Fiedler.

    Dude, you really sound like you care... :roll:

    Look at the span on the entire post surgical timeline. Look at when he began throwing activities. In that context, you should be able to see that six weeks is actually an eternity. if you can't, then you will just have to take my word, that six weeks is a very long time in this context.

    I have gone through a handful of exhausting rehabs in my day. Six weeks is forever.

    Remember, at this point, the injury is basically healed. He's just building arm strength. Could he play an NFL regular season today? Who knows. In six weeks, my money is on him playing.

    Just look at the injuries that heal from start to finish in six weeks.

    Pennington is on schedule. It doesn't mean that he can't suffer a setback or suffer a new injury, but to get concerned over a wobbly or under thrown ball at this point is not prudent.

  15. So if I were to say that he is a money grubbing whore with one bad wheel...Ty Law IS IT? Oh yeah, he's still going to be a Patriot when it's all said and done.

    Will you be talking about the bad wheel if he signs in NE, or will a miracle have occurred in that scenario?

    It will be fun to watch Ty laying down the Law in GREEN...

  16. I think the Jets are really counting on Pouha to play a lot of snaps and probably start.

    He probably comes out on passing downs and for a lot of rest, but I see him playing a lot.

    Pouha and Adrian Jones are the two biggest question marks on this team, once you assume that ABE and Penny will be ready.

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